Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 is supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even longer. All this time the

Re: How to boot FreeBSD and linux from FreeBSD MBR?

2012-10-27 Thread matt
On 10/26/12 22:14, Yuri wrote: When I installed ubuntu on another partition, it overwrote BSD MBR with grub one. Now grub boots ubuntu without even asking what to boot. When I tried to restore BSD MBR, BSD boots but linux doesn't. This is because there is no bootable PBR in linux partition.

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
BTW, would it be useful to put a devel/fmake into ports to make it easy for people with older systems to install an up to date version of freebsd make (which groks both sets of toupper/tolower modifiers)? Perhaps a knob to install it or put in a link as /usr/bin/make ?

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
[trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: In that case we have a switch time on

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 15:32, Bryan Drewery br...@shatow.net wrote: On 10/27/2012 8:23 AM, Chris Rees wrote: [trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 10/27/2012 8:23 AM, Chris Rees wrote: [trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Eitan Adler
On 27 October 2012 10:34, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: This weeks is making a assumptions that users 1. reads ports@ or 2. Update to security/errata patches in a timely manner or 3. Read UPDATING Quite. This should be at least a few months, otherwise we're making unreasonable requests

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 10/27/2012 9:40 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 27 October 2012 10:34, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: This weeks is making a assumptions that users 1. reads ports@ or 2. Update to security/errata patches in a timely manner or 3. Read UPDATING Quite. This should be at least a few months,

Call for review -- rc needs some love!

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
Hi all, I've tried to have a look at some of the lingering issues in our rc [1] as well as kick up some discussion over some other patches, but looking over the archives of the list it seems that no-one is maintaining it or reviewing patches. Because of this, I'm having a hard time working out

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 18:27, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: These discussions need backing up with a real roadmap, including detail on exactly what 8.3 and 7.4 users will have to do to ensure that the ports tree still works. I've tested the ports tree converted to bmake - per the patch I

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
These discussions need backing up with a real roadmap, including detail on exactly what 8.3 and 7.4 users will have to do to ensure that the ports tree still works. I've tested the ports tree converted to bmake - per the patch I mentioned on a 7.1 box. It worked for me. Once the ports tree has

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 19:52, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:29 +0100, Chris Rees writes: We (ab)use the security update mechanism to merge the pmake changes (:tl and :tu) into releng/7.4 and releng/8.3 (possibly the earlier I originally provided the :tl and :tu

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:44:36 -0500, Bryan Drewery writes: Could there be a make.conf/env setting to make bmake run AS pmake in full compat mode? On by default until all older branches are EoL, then it can flip and be optional. This has been mentioned before. Firstly, I have changed bmake

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:32:56 +0100, Chris Rees writes: On 27 October 2012 18:27, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: I've tested the ports tree converted to bmake - per the patch I mentioned on a 7.1 box. It worked for me. Once the ports tree has What about these? [crees@pegasus]~%

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:29 +0100, Chris Rees writes: We (ab)use the security update mechanism to merge the pmake changes (:tl and :tu) into releng/7.4 and releng/8.3 (possibly the earlier I originally provided the :tl and :tu patch for something like that (not planning any abuse mind ;-) But,

Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread hiren panchasara
[removing the CC list] On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: (cc'ing -ports and cutting most of the rest) From: Eitan Adler . On 24 October 2012 13:24, Fernando ApesteguĂ­a wrote: Also related to that, what about writing a section about redports[1] in

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:53:56 +0100, Chris Rees writes: I'm saying that it's unacceptable to expect people to change their systems just to make the ports tree work after we have broken it on a supposedly supported version. But there's no suggestion of that. The ports tree would take care of

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 22:17, hiren panchasara hiren.panchas...@gmail.com wrote: [removing the CC list] On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: (cc'ing -ports and cutting most of the rest) From: Eitan Adler . On 24 October 2012 13:24, Fernando ApesteguĂ­a wrote:

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread hiren panchasara
+ Sean, who has been helping me. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 27 October 2012 22:17, hiren panchasara hiren.panchas...@gmail.com wrote: [removing the CC list] On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: (cc'ing

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Hiren; On 10/27/2012 16:48, hiren panchasara wrote: + Sean, who has been helping me. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org mailto:cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 27 October 2012 22:17, hiren panchasara hiren.panchas...@gmail.com

Re: Installing make as pmake when WITH_BMAKE specified (was Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program)

2012-10-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
Can someone please explain to me what the original reason is for causing such ridiculously large, far reaching issues? And why people seem to be in a really, really big rush for it? Adrian ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How to boot FreeBSD and linux from FreeBSD MBR?

2012-10-27 Thread Yuri
On 10/27/2012 02:42, matt wrote: This means you have grub2. It is slow as molasses and has to be the mbr. You could chainload freebsd's partition under a separate entry, like Windows The partition bootcode for FreeBSD will boot it from there. You can also boot loader or kernel directly from

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread hiren panchasara
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello Hiren; On 10/27/2012 16:48, hiren panchasara wrote: + Sean, who has been helping me. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 27 October 2012 22:17, hiren panchasara

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; On 10/27/2012 22:08, hiren panchasara wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org mailto:p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello Hiren; On 10/27/2012 16:48, hiren panchasara wrote: ... This is great news Hiren, Thanks! The stress test for

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 10/27/12 2:17 PM, hiren panchasara wrote: [removing the CC list] On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: (cc'ing -ports and cutting most of the rest) From: Eitan Adler . On 24 October 2012 13:24,