Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono]

I have not tried as small, but the native parts do not need much. 
The build has option (-numproc) to limit parallelism and that should help if 
you run into troubles.
Also, watch for limit on open file descriptors.  

Tomas

On 9/20/17, 2:39 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Carsten 
Larsen"  wrote:

This all sounds very interesting !

Given the new build instructions on github I will also give it try.

What are the requirements in terms of memory for the build process to 
complete? Would a VPS with 512Mb be enough?

Kind regards
Carsten


On 20-09-2017 03:35 Aaron Havens wrote:
> I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find.
> Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it
> differently.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono <
> freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
>> First draft is posted here: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fdotnet%2F=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7Cfe32f86c6e024ee71f6108d500710a0a%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636415407870960109=6UXyqkEidTTQQJI6FqPIvCMRiot29zXFMWyduTn6jV4%3D=0
>> corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD
>> Probably incomplete.
>> It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve.
>> This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x.
>> My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD
>> host.
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>> On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas
>> Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>>  I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not 
get
>> to it yet.
>>  At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux
>> instead)
>>  I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so
>> one can build proper managed assemblies.
>>  Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because
>> Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support.
>>
>>  Tomas
>>
>>
>>  On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of
>> Russell Haley" > russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hey Guys,
>>
>>  Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. 
I'm
>>  not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if 
someone
>> is
>>  interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers
>> something
>>  more functional and some instructions.
>>
>>  Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for 
DotNet
>>  Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via 
their
>>  tools  (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be 
good
>>  for status updates and the like?
>>
>>  Russ
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid <
>> eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote:
>>  >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a
>> GitHub account and
>>  >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address.
>>  >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. 
I'm
>> not so sure
>>  >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good
>> place to
>>  >> congregate.
>>  > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source
>> project before so I
>>  > don't know how much help I could be.
>>  >
>>  > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com)
>>  > GH Account is 
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Carsten Larsen]

This all sounds very interesting !

Given the new build instructions on github I will also give it try.

What are the requirements in terms of memory for the build process to 
complete? Would a VPS with 512Mb be enough?


Kind regards
Carsten


On 20-09-2017 03:35 Aaron Havens wrote:

I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find.
Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it
differently.

Aaron

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono <
freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote:


First draft is posted here: https://github.com/dotnet/
corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD
Probably incomplete.
It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve.
This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x.
My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD
host.

Tomas

On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas
Weinfurt via freebsd-mono"  wrote:

 I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get
to it yet.
 At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux
instead)
 I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so
one can build proper managed assemblies.
 Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because
Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support.

 Tomas


 On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of
Russell Haley"  wrote:

 Hey Guys,

 Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm
 not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone
is
 interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers
something
 more functional and some instructions.

 Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet
 Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their
 tools  (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good
 for status updates and the like?

 Russ


 On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid <
eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote:
 >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a
GitHub account and
 >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address.
 >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm
not so sure
 >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good
place to
 >> congregate.
 > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source
project before so I
 > don't know how much help I could be.
 >
 > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com)
 > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks.
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 > Regards,
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Aaron Havens]

I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find.
Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it
differently.

Aaron

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono <
freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote:

> First draft is posted here: https://github.com/dotnet/
> corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD
> Probably incomplete.
> It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve.
> This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x.
> My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD
> host.
>
> Tomas
>
> On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas
> Weinfurt via freebsd-mono"  freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get
> to it yet.
> At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux
> instead)
> I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so
> one can build proper managed assemblies.
> Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because
> Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support.
>
> Tomas
>
>
> On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of
> Russell Haley"  russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm
> not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone
> is
> interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers
> something
> more functional and some instructions.
>
> Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet
> Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their
> tools  (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good
> for status updates and the like?
>
> Russ
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid <
> eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote:
> >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a
> GitHub account and
> >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address.
> >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm
> not so sure
> >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good
> place to
> >> congregate.
> > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source
> project before so I
> > don't know how much help I could be.
> >
> > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com)
> > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks.
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> > Regards,
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Mathieu Prevot]

;
> [1] My paraphrasing of the situation. I could be totally off base.
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone here run Unity? Unity is a very popular gaming engine that
> > is cross platform and provides a C# API.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine)
> >
> > https://mellinoe.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/net-core-game-engine/
> >
> > Kaboom! (Head exploded again. This is getting messy)
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hey Marcin,
> >>>
> >>> So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see
> >>> anything untoward.
> >>>
> >>> https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-
> contribution-license-agreement.pdf
> >>>
> >>> Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I
> >>> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom!
> >>> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out
> >>> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style
> >>> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer
> >>> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems
> >>> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great
> >>> way to distribute proprietary code.
> >>>
> >>> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of
> >>> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system.
> >>>
> >>> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways
> >>> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono
> >>> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been
> >>> a problem of note.
> >>>
> >>> Russ
> >>
> >> I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time
> >> into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to
> >> me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/cli -
> >> https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm
> >>
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT
> >>
> >> https://github.com/nuget/home - A2
> >> https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2
> >>
> >> https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC
> >> https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC
> >>
> >> Russ
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Sorry for the top post,
> >>>>
> >>>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor
> license? This has been one of the concerns of mine‎ (part of the
> pedanticism). I didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> Russ
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network.
> >>>>   Original Message
> >>>> From: Marcin Cieslak
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM
> >>>> To: Russell Haley
> >>>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono;
> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
> >>>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will
> be
> >>>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
> >>>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
> >>>>> type alot).
> >>>>
> >>>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first
> published.
> >>>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there
> were
> >>>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD
> sepecific
> >>>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is
> about
> >>>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).
> >>>>
> >>>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
> >>>> recently.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
> >>>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Marcin
> >>>> saper on github
>
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Russell Haley]

t; Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I
>>> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom!
>>> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out
>>> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style
>>> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer
>>> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems
>>> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great
>>> way to distribute proprietary code.
>>>
>>> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of
>>> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system.
>>>
>>> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways
>>> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono
>>> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been
>>> a problem of note.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>
>> I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time
>> into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to
>> me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses:
>>
>> https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft
>> https://github.com/dotnet/cli -
>> https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm
>>
>> https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
>> https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT
>>
>> https://github.com/nuget/home - A2
>> https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2
>> https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2
>>
>> https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC
>> https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sorry for the top post,
>>>>
>>>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? 
>>>> This has been one of the concerns of mine‎ (part of the pedanticism). I 
>>>> didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet.
>>>>
>>>> Russ
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network.
>>>>   Original Message
>>>> From: Marcin Cieslak
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM
>>>> To: Russell Haley
>>>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; 
>>>> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
>>>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
>>>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be
>>>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
>>>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
>>>>> type alot).
>>>>
>>>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first 
>>>> published.
>>>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were
>>>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific
>>>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about
>>>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).
>>>>
>>>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
>>>> recently.
>>>>
>>>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
>>>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)
>>>>
>>>> Marcin
>>>> saper on github
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Russell Haley]

Does anyone here run Unity? Unity is a very popular gaming engine that
is cross platform and provides a C# API.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine)

https://mellinoe.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/net-core-game-engine/

Kaboom! (Head exploded again. This is getting messy)

Russ

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Marcin,
>>
>> So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see
>> anything untoward.
>>
>> https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-license-agreement.pdf
>>
>> Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I
>> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom!
>> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out
>> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style
>> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer
>> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems
>> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great
>> way to distribute proprietary code.
>>
>> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of
>> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system.
>>
>> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways
>> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono
>> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been
>> a problem of note.
>>
>> Russ
>
> I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time
> into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to
> me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses:
>
> https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft
> https://github.com/dotnet/cli -
> https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm
>
> https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT
> https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT
>
> https://github.com/nuget/home - A2
> https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2
> https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2
>
> https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC
> https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC
>
> Russ
>
>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sorry for the top post,
>>>
>>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This 
>>> has been one of the concerns of mine‎ (part of the pedanticism). I didn't 
>>> get a chance to read the doc itself yet.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network.
>>>   Original Message
>>> From: Marcin Cieslak
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM
>>> To: Russell Haley
>>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; 
>>> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
>>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
>>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
>>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be
>>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
>>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
>>>> type alot).
>>>
>>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published.
>>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were
>>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific
>>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about
>>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).
>>>
>>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
>>> recently.
>>>
>>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
>>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)
>>>
>>> Marcin
>>> saper on github
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Russell Haley]

Hey Marcin,

So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see
anything untoward.

https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-license-agreement.pdf

Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I
think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom!
lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out
there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style
management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer
over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems
(physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great
way to distribute proprietary code.

Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of
what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system.

Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways
because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono
has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been
a problem of note.

Russ

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley <russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the top post,
>
> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This 
> has been one of the concerns of mine‎ (part of the pedanticism). I didn't get 
> a chance to read the doc itself yet.
>
> Russ
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network.
>   Original Message
> From: Marcin Cieslak
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM
> To: Russell Haley
> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; 
> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
>
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be
>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
>> type alot).
>
> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published.
> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were
> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific
> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about
> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).
>
> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
> recently.
>
> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)
>
> Marcin
> saper on github
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Russell Haley]

Sorry for the top post,

Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This has 
been one of the concerns of mine‎ (part of the pedanticism). I didn't get a 
chance to read the doc itself yet. 

Russ

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network.
  Original Message  
From: Marcin Cieslak
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM
To: Russell Haley
Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; 
freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be
> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
> type alot).

I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published.
Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were
some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific
sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about
coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).

It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
recently.

I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)

Marcin
saper on github
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Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD

[Marcin Cieslak]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about
> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be
> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been
> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and
> type alot).

I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published.
Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were
some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific
sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about
coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs).

It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked
recently.

I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement
and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :)

Marcin
saper on github

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