Re: can't bridge an I/F with jumbo to taps, deleted bridge 'flags' are sticky if you remake them

2022-01-17 Thread Kristof Provost
On 17 Jan 2022, at 6:09, George Michaelson wrote: > I tested on FreeBSD 13 and the behaviour is the same. > > But, I want to withdraw an imputation this is a bug. The underlying > behaviour is that you can't bond an MTU9000 and an MTU1500 interface. > If the base device is set jumbo

Re: can't bridge an I/F with jumbo to taps, deleted bridge 'flags' are sticky if you remake them

2022-01-16 Thread George Michaelson
I tested on FreeBSD 13 and the behaviour is the same. But, I want to withdraw an imputation this is a bug. The underlying behaviour is that you can't bond an MTU9000 and an MTU1500 interface. If the base device is set jumbo, then the tapX instances must be set jumbo. once you set MTU to match

Re: can't bridge an I/F with jumbo to taps, deleted bridge 'flags' are sticky if you remake them

2022-01-13 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, > Am 13.01.2022 um 06:41 schrieb George Michaelson : > > I just found a couple of odd quirks in bridge > > 1) you can't bridge an MTU 9000 interface to taps. If you dial it back > to 1500 it works fine. I might have missed this being a limit in the > man > >

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I just found a couple of odd quirks in bridge 1) you can't bridge an MTU 9000 interface to taps. If you dial it back to 1500 it works fine. I might have missed this being a limit in the man 2) when you delete a bridge, and re-create it, some of the addm "history" can come live. fa

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Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-04-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 22/3/18 7:30 am, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message <5ab2d11a.6060...@grosbein.net>, Eugene Grosbein <eu...@grosbein.net> wrote: If they respond truly identically, there are no reasons to treat them like distinct hosts despite of different IP addresses. are you on the

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-27 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
"Ronald F. Guilmette" <r...@tristatelogic.com> wrote: > In message <201803241747.w2ohlupr069...@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net>, > Jamie Landeg-Jones <ja...@catflap.org> wrote: > > >Have you thought of examining the TCP timestamp field? Not ne

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-26 Thread Andreas Scherrer
Hi rfg On 21.03.18 22:19, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: ... Is there any method which can be applied to A and A' over the Internet and which could reliably differentiate these two possible cases from one another (i.e. a single common host versus two separate hosts)? That is an interesting

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-24 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <201803241747.w2ohlupr069...@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <ja...@catflap.org> wrote: >Have you thought of examining the TCP timestamp field? Not necessarily >for accurate uptime, but a way to determine if the hosts are the same. No,

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-24 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Have you thought of examining the TCP timestamp field? Not necessarily for accurate uptime, but a way to determine if the hosts are the same. Or some of the other fingerprinting methods? nmap has options for uptime and other fingerprinting : https://nmap.org/book/osdetect-usage.html Of course

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
someone else pointed out that is simply a mater of >copying the /etc/ssh/*host* key files over to the other host. >This also happens when people clone machines... so is actual >more common than one might think. > >You can be pretty sure they are different machines, but you >can not

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > In message <201803220250.w2m2owmf024...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, > "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > >You are not going to prove the "control of the exact same Bad Actor" > >without a warrant to searc

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <4ce048ad-873e-795e-aae0-8d795d9bb...@kicp.uchicago.edu>, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >If A and A' do resolve beyond their SOA for clients outside of their >domain. That was vulnerable for abuse, and hardly anybody does that >these days. Am I missing

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
cord with good enough TTL of one hour. Ask A >about this record, get answer with TTL = 3600. Wait for ten seconds, then >ask A' about the same record. If received TTL is about 3590 - it's really >likely that A and A' is the same host. Thank you! Yes. This, and checking the SSH key,

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <201803220250.w2m2owmf024...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >You are not going to prove the "control of the exact same Bad Actor" >without a warrant to search and seize. Well, as someone

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <4db72389-d167-4152-a15f-4710c54b2...@your.org>, Kevin Day <ke...@your.org> wrote: >Does the ssh-keyscan tool do what you want? I never knew about that tool until now. But yes, indeed, that may be the exact kind of magic I was looking

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 03/22/18 09:02, Alexandre Snarskii wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:19:43PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: [...] P.S. It is my assumption that the kind of thing I'm looking for, if it exists at all, will be found somewhere below the application layer. I do not rule out however that

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-22 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:19:43PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: [...] > P.S. It is my assumption that the kind of thing I'm looking for, if > it exists at all, will be found somewhere below the application layer. > I do not rule out however that there may be some way of differentiating > the

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > In message <201803212204.w2lm4g8h023...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, > "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > >One thing you could look at is the OS finger printing of nmap, > >that could look for possible things to diffe

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Kevin Day
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Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <201803212204.w2lm4g8h023...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >One thing you could look at is the OS finger printing of nmap, >that could look for possible things to diffentiate the hosts. Y

Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
"Kurt Buff" <kurt.b...@gmail.com > wrote: >Do you mean that the application banners for all applications are the >same? A comprehensive scan with nmap shows no differences? Correct. This is the case I was/am asking about. >I know you specified SSH as outside of the

Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
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ankly, I'm just too ignorant and/or > too stupid to be able to think up a solution, so I'll just drop the > problem description here and see if any of you more knowledgable > people can devise or suggest a solution. > > The Problem: > > Suppose that there exist two IPv4 addr

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Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"?

2018-03-21 Thread Kurt Buff
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2018-03-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
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Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread None Secure via freebsd-net
I've built a lot of gateways/routers with FreeBSD - but they have always been with real, routable IPs. External IP is real, internal IP is real, and all I need is gateway_enable=yes and a next-hop route from my ISP. No NAT, no divert, no ipfw rules, nothing. BUT, what if my ISP is giving me a

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

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Apparently from your mail you dont need anything since your isp is making the nat. Sami בתאריך 7 ביונ 2014 09:25, None Secure via freebsd-net freebsd-net@freebsd.org כתב: I've built a lot of gateways/routers with FreeBSD - but they have always been with real, routable IPs. External IP

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
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Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

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depends on whether your ISP's kit will NAT for your 10.10.10.1 range as well as the 192.168.1.2 address they've assigned to you. Which I doubt -- the ISP kit is probably only going to do the minimum necessary to provide service so that it can support the maximum possible number of customers. However

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread None Secure via freebsd-net
some time ago when the ISP gave us only a single IP address. The local machines connected to the gateway, the gateway connected via a second interface to the ISP. Of course, only the gateway was visible from outside. If you want to access the internal machines from outisde, you will need NAT

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 7 June 2014 12:48, None Secure via freebsd-net freebsd-net@freebsd.org wrote: Yes, but in this case BOTH IPs of the gateway - both the external and the internal interfaces - are non-routable IPs, and so is my ISP cable modem. 192.168.1.1 is the cable modem 192.168.1.2 is external

RE: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread None Secure via freebsd-net
inserts it's own set of divert rules into the ipfw table ... so I have one natd_enable, and a set of divert rules ... and then we add another set of divert rules from sshuttle (which does not, btw, start it's own natd). So when you say that I can NAT multiple times ... can I NAT multiple times

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread Tom Pusateri
I've seen this setup with IPv4 before when the ISP does native IPv6. Maybe you can get global IPv6 addresses and can SSH directly over that. If not, at least go on record requesting IPv6 with your provider to push them along. Tom On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:12 AM, None Secure via freebsd-net

Re: Can you create a FreeBSD gateway, with private IPs, without NAT/divert ?

2014-06-07 Thread John-Mark Gurney
None Secure via freebsd-net wrote this message on Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:48 -0700: Yes, but in this case BOTH IPs of the gateway - both the external and the internal interfaces - are non-routable IPs, and so is my ISP cable modem. You keep saying non-routable IPs, but really, RFC1918

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2014-06-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:48:39 -0700 (PDT) None Secure via freebsd-net freebsd-net@freebsd.org wrote: Yes, but in this case BOTH IPs of the gateway - both the external and the internal interfaces - are non-routable IPs, and so is my ISP cable modem. 192.168.1.1 is the cable modem

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2008-02-24 Thread Electronic Card's
Hi, You just recieved an electronic card! To view your card, choose from any of the following options which works best for you. Method 1 Just click on the following Internet address (if that doesn't work for you, copy paste the address onto your

You just recieved an electronic card! Thanks!

2008-02-23 Thread Electronic Card's
Hi, You just recieved an electronic card! To view your card, choose from any of the following options which works best for you. Method 1 Just click on the following Internet address (if that doesn't work for you, copy paste the address onto your

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2008-01-25 Thread received
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Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-10-08 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-10-01 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-09-24 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge o kern/116172 netNetwork / ipv6

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-09-17 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge o kern/116172 netNetwork / ipv6

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-09-10 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge o kern/116172 netNetwork / ipv6

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2007-09-03 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

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2007-08-29 Thread Sonam Reddy
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Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-08-27 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-08-20 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-08-13 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description o kern/115360 net[ipv6] IPv6 address and if_bridge don't play well toge 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker

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2007-08-06 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description s kern/21998 net[socket] [patch] ident only for outgoing connections a kern/38554 net

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2007-07-30 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-07-23 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-07-16 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-07-09 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

Current problem reports assigned to you

2007-07-02 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

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2007-06-25 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description a kern/38554 netchanging interface ipaddress doesn't seem to work s kern/39937 netipstealth

Re: how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-22 Thread Mike Makonnen
a work in progress. Currently, you can't enable and auto-configure IPv6 *after* the initial boot. The reason for this is that the IPv6 configuration subroutines require all IPv6 interfaces to have a link-local address first. However, the rc.d/auto_linklocal script is executed before all the networking

Re: how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-22 Thread ghozzy
? IPv6 configuration is still a work in progress. Currently, you can't enable and auto-configure IPv6 *after* the initial boot. The reason for this is that the IPv6 configuration subroutines require all IPv6 interfaces to have a link-local address first. However, the rc.d/auto_linklocal script

Re: how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-22 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
ghozzy wrote: I've found a way: # sysctl net.inet6.ip6.auto_linklocal=1 # ifconfig em0 down up will assign link-local address to interface. after all required interfaces have link-local addresses, run /etc/rc.d/network_ipv6 start and all will be set ! :) Well, this may work now, however,

Re: how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-22 Thread George Michaelson
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:39:46 +0100 Bruce M. Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that it does work at all is to do with how protocol domain attach works with struct ifnet. I am thinking that in future a lot of this should change, in order to avoid a number of issues we currently have

how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-19 Thread George Michaelson
on a 6-STABLE host, I added: ipv6_enable=YES ipv6_network_interfaces=bge1 to rc.conf, and ran /etc/rc.d/network_ipv6 this did not bring IPv6 live. rtsol reported problems with get_llflag() calls. However across reboot, the system came up with IPv6 fine. Can somebody explain why

Re: how do you bring IPv6 live without reboot?

2007-06-19 Thread Bruce A. Mah
, the system came up with IPv6 fine. Can somebody explain why this won't work if run after the init sequence has run to completion? What is the sequence of commands that when run on an active FreeBSD system causes it to successfully bind to IPv6? Hrm. You might also need to invoke /etc/rc.d

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