Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule [...concerns...thread...continued...]

2012-08-23 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
There is pkg2ng tool. I think reverse tool could be useful for such scenario: 1. System packages managed by pkgng 2. pkgng2pkg creates /var/db/pkg structure, for read-only tasks 3. Any soft relying on get info from /var/db/pkg still works (partially, because of RO). And then one could learn new

eacclerator and php 5.4

2012-08-23 Thread Alex Dupre
If you are interested in eaccelerator with php 5.4, please try the following patch and report success/failure. http://www.alexdupre.com/eaccelerator.diff -- Alex Dupre ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule [...concerns...thread...continued...]

2012-08-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 05:37:54AM -0700, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I view, rightly-or-wrongly, the mandatory usage of pkgng VS /var/db/pkg/portname-number, as somewhat of a showstopper, at least without more assurances... I interact daily with /var/db/pkg as follows... using the shells'

Re: Ports in Subversion and the INDEX file

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 August 2012 10:21, Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com wrote: how do you regenerate this file these days? make index seems to take a pretty long time. It's a pretty big file :) Try make fetchindex. Chris ___

Re: Ports in Subversion and the INDEX file

2012-08-23 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From owner-freebsd-po...@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 10:29:18 2012 how do you regenerate this file these days? make index seems to take a pretty long time. I prefer fetchindex Anton ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Ports in Subversion and the INDEX file

2012-08-23 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:21:24AM +0200 I heard the voice of Christer Solskogen, and lo! it spake thus: how do you regenerate this file these days? make index seems to take a pretty long time. I switch to using portsnap years back, which provides it prebuilt. I prefer that to fetchindex,

pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet
I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg directory as a database into the port installation/status, using sed/grep/portmaster/portmanager/.sh scripts/find/pipes etc... to fix stuff. For instance, an

[HEADS UP] Change in the FreeBSD Ports Management Team

2012-08-23 Thread Thomas Abthorpe
Florent Thoumie, aka flz@, recently stepped down from his roll on the FreeBSD Ports Management team. Florent started on portmgr back in August 2008, being instrumental in maintaining the legacy pkg_* code plus other aspects of the ports infrastructure, including but not limited to the unifying of

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Kris Moore
On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg directory as a database into the port installation/status, using sed/grep/portmaster/portmanager/.sh

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 Aug 2012 17:50, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg directory as a database into the port installation/status,

Re: [HEADS UP] Change in the FreeBSD Ports Management Team

2012-08-23 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 23, 2012 4:28:20 PM + Thomas Abthorpe portmgr-secret...@freebsd.org wrote: Florent Thoumie, aka flz@, recently stepped down from his roll on the FreeBSD Ports Management team. Florent, thank you for your service, your hard work and your dedication to FreeBSD. -- Paul

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 8/23/2012 6:26 PM, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg directory as a database into the port installation/status, using sed/grep/portmaster/portmanager/.sh

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Kris Moore
On 08/23/2012 13:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 August 2012 20:50, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 13:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 23/08/2012 20:50, Kris Moore wrote: Well, it was about time I got to doing a benchmark of this anyway :) I did quick benchmark of how one of our utilities parses through a list of 1k packages on a newer i5 system: First test, using /var/db/pkg/pkg check we have been doing: 0.178s

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 03:50:11PM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: On 08/23/2012 13:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread olli hauer
On 2012-08-23 21:50, Kris Moore wrote: On 08/23/2012 13:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a

Re: patch to build spamass-milter with sendmail-sasl

2012-08-23 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
Just the patch I was looking for. - Original Message - FYI- The mail/spamass-milter port won't build if the sendmail-sasl port has been built. The patch below fixes this. The port maintainer is on the Cc. No bug has been reported. Curtis --- Makefile.orig

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Kris Moore
On 08/23/2012 16:31, olli hauer wrote: On 2012-08-23 21:50, Kris Moore wrote: On 08/23/2012 13:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote: On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: I am following with dread the planned implementation of the

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hm, it's sqlite, so if the tables are indexed correctly, that should be a quick query? Or is it recursing through each dependency and listing that too? adrian ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: patch to build spamass-milter with sendmail-sasl

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 August 2012 21:37, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. lkc...@ksu.edu wrote: Just the patch I was looking for. - Original Message - FYI- The mail/spamass-milter port won't build if the sendmail-sasl port has been built. The patch below fixes this. The port maintainer is on the Cc.

Re: pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

2012-08-23 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 03:50:11PM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: Well, it was about time I got to doing a benchmark of this anyway :) I did quick benchmark of how one of our utilities parses through a list of 1k packages on a newer i5 system: First test, using /var/db/pkg/pkg check we have been

pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Wills
Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs. the first time. I can imagine a user saying I ran pkg, but it

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs.

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/23/2012 3:19 PM, Steve Wills wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs. the first time. I

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 8/23/2012 5:19 PM, Steve Wills wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs. the first time. I

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:27:13 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org a écrit : Hello, So, opinions? There may still be time to fix it for 9.1 if we can decide quickly. I do personnally have no opinion on this, I have hesitated long between both before choosing /usr/sbin/pkg. I'm

announcing the availability of packages for the Arm architecture

2012-08-23 Thread Mark Linimon
With the help of Alexander Motin, I have now started limited package builds on the Arm architecture. Right now builds are only being done for a few hand-selected ports, and only on arm-9 with pkgng. No builds with the old pkg_* tools are intended at this time. For those of you with Arm systems,

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:19:57 -0400 Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Wills
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Why can't one of those steps be to run pkg-bootstrap? Because the how-to may not be for a new system ;) -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Wills
On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Why can't one of those steps be to run pkg-bootstrap? Because the how-to may not be for a new system ;) The possibility of bad docs somewhere outside of our control, when we can

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On 23 August 2012 22:15, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Why can't one of those steps be to run pkg-bootstrap? Because the how-to may not be for a new system ;) The

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Wills
On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:15, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Why can't one of those steps be to run pkg-bootstrap? Because

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/23/2012 7:23 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:15, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: Why can't one of those steps be to run pkg-bootstrap? Because the how-to

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On 23 August 2012 22:55, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: As far as I understand it, POLA is about changing existing things: okay, so forget POLA. My point is that a user following a how to or even *our* documentation on how to install something unrelated, like say, apache, will be very

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Eitan Adler
On 23 August 2012 22:59, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: No, POLA refers to not changing long-established practices out from under the user. forget pola I tend to agree with Steve here ... we can't be responsible for other people's poorly written docs. This isn't about poorly written

Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap

2012-08-23 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: On 23 August 2012 22:55, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote: As far as I understand it, POLA is about changing existing things: okay, so forget POLA. My point is that a user following a how to or even *our* documentation on how to install something