Re: ports/pkg/OS integration 2.0

2016-02-14 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, John Marino wrote: > Royce wrote: >> It would be nice to be asked at the point of installing the system >> what kind of software management you want: >> >> [X] Install software from binary packages only >> [ ] Install software from ports only

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-12 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Jim Ohlstein <j...@ohlste.in> wrote: > On 2/11/16 7:22 PM, Royce Williams wrote: >> Is the abstraction is happening at the equivalent level here? The >> platforms that I'm thinking of -- that appear to have already solved >> this entir

Re: ports/pkg/OS integration 2.0 (was: Re: Removing documentation)

2016-02-12 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: >>> (The Ubuntu /etc/alternatives symlink system and other mechanisms solve >>> this well) > > > That hasn't been my experience but then I'm not a big fan of symlinks > which can't be safely modified outside of the (d)pkg

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-11 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, John Marino <freebs...@marino.st> wrote: > > On 2/12/2016 1:22 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > > Is the abstraction is happening at the equivalent level here? The > > platforms that I'm thinking of -- that appear to have already solved > >

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-11 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino wrote: > > On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 07.02.2016 17:28, John Marino wrote: > > > >> ports-mgmt/synth. I would love to hear what signficant thing

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-11 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:17 AM, John Marino <freebs...@marino.st> wrote: > On 2/11/2016 9:08 PM, Royce Williams wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino <freebs...@marino.st> wrote: >>> >>> On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wr

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-09 Thread Royce Williams
IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD ports/packages management is fragmented. Each unofficial tool treats some symptoms well, and others poorly. The fact that I have to use the phrase "ports/packages" is indicative of a deep schizophrenia. Don't get me wrong -- I love the

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-09 Thread Royce Williams
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Royce Williams <ro...@tycho.org> wrote: > IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD > ports/packages management is fragmented. [snip] > We need to capture users' reasons for preferring specific frameworks, > and build a roadmap

Re: LogJam exploit can force TLS down to 512 bytes, does it affect us? ?

2015-05-21 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 17:48, Xin Li wrote: ] Well, currently OpenSSL do accept weak DH so _arguably_ it does affect FreeBSD, and it's likely to break existing applications if we enforce such restrictions (namely,

Re: pkg 1.5.0 is out

2015-04-14 Thread Royce Williams
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: Final pkg 1.5.0 has been released. Great! How do I upgrade to it? $ date Tue Apr 14 13:51:47 AKDT 2015 $ pkg --version 1.4.12 $ pkg info | egrep '^pkg-' pkg-1.4.12 Package manager $ sudo pkg

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

2015-01-13 Thread Royce Williams
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Chris H bsd-li...@bsdforge.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:11:50 -0800 (PST) Roger Marquis marq...@roble.com wrote The dialog option you talk about says: [ ] REPLACE_BASEEOL, no longer supported I'm quite sure the end-user you're talking about can

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

2015-01-12 Thread Royce Williams
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote: No disputing that, just thinking, is FreeBSD being driven by user need, financial contributer need, developer need, security need, making things 'better' or just by people wanting to make their mark in a warped sense of it'll

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

2015-01-12 Thread Royce Williams
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Chris H bsd-li...@bsdforge.com wrote: As to the sysadmin gap a look to the ports tree seems to indicate quite a volume of sysadmin related ports. Are some missing? To the contrary -- there are too many. A good project would be to survey which ones people

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

2015-01-12 Thread Royce Williams
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Chris H bsd-li...@bsdforge.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:55:45 -0900 Royce Williams ro...@tycho.org wrote On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Chris H bsd-li...@bsdforge.com wrote: As to the sysadmin gap a look to the ports tree seems to indicate quite

Re: Deleting ports distfiles

2014-11-16 Thread Royce Williams
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:55 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Sun 2014-11-16 23:29:37 UTC+0100, Dr. Peter Voigt (pvo...@uos.de) wrote: I have just seen that /usr/ports/distfiles has grown up to 12 GiB. My hopefully not too stupid question is: Can I safely delete all files under

Re: firebird25-client 2.5.3 fails to build

2014-10-23 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote: There's a PR that discusses this issue (ports that require their old version to be deinstalled before building the new version):

Re: PKG not quite ready for prime time

2014-10-10 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014, at 14:47, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 10/10/2014 1:12 PM, scratch65...@att.net wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:57:42 -0500, Brian Drewery wrote: find /usr/share/keys/pkg -exec sha256 {} + No such

Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Michael Gmelin free...@grem.de wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:26:42 +0200 Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net wrote: Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports wrote: On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote: While I understandthe need to get rid of the old

Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux

2014-03-25 Thread Royce Williams
Colin, adding you to this thread with proposed patch (two options) for freebsd-update, below. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Honest question, have you been building things from source under debian's ports or are you using their version of pkg? the latter

Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux

2014-03-22 Thread Royce Williams
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [snip] there will always be a few bugs. otoh, with freebsd ports, there may be a few working paths, but they are damned hard to find. and there is very viable competition. many long time freebsd users are leaving, yes

Re: WITHOUT_NLS is deprecated use NLS option instead

2013-12-26 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Michael Gmelin free...@grem.de wrote: Adding a (shortened, so easy to type) URL pointing to the wiki or whatever resource describing why this happened could be useful (not just for this, but for all of these deprecation warnings, so users understand the

Re: security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

2013-12-21 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Royce Williams ro...@tycho.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 07:27:05AM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: Could someone bump security/john? The simple patch below should be a good

security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

2013-11-20 Thread Royce Williams
%%DATADIR%%/radius2john.pl -%%DATADIR%%/sap_prepare.pl +%%DATADIR%%/sap2john.pl %%DATADIR%%/sha-dump.pl %%DATADIR%%/sha-test.pl +%%DATADIR%%/sipdump2john.py @dirrm %%DATADIR%% Royce On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Royce Williams ro...@tycho.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Alexey

Re: security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

2013-11-20 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 07:27:05AM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: Could someone bump security/john? The simple patch below should be a good start to cover it, and it's been more than a year since jumbo-6 came out

Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng

2013-11-02 Thread Royce Williams
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Michael Gmelin free...@grem.de wrote: Mirrors you may use instead of the global pkg.FreeBSD.orghttp://pkg.freebsd.org/ pkg.eu.FreeBSD.org http://pkg.eu.freebsd.org/ pkg.us-east.FreeBSD.org http://pkg.us-east.freebsd.org/

Re: UPDATING

2012-12-24 Thread Royce Williams
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 24 December 2012 11:31, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: On 24/12/2012 06:52, Anton Afanasyev wrote: I second this. While it may have made sense to include the rebuild all ports. Here's an example of how

Re: Users Handbook

2012-11-16 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: [snip] The only way to force the user to pick a mirror is to change the example so it won't work until they do. Like this: Pick an svn mirror and replace the {svnmirror} string below with the URL. # svn

Re: FreeBSD Port: boinc-setiathome-enhanced-6.12_2

2012-03-28 Thread Royce Williams
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Rene Ladan r...@freebsd.org wrote: On 24-03-2012 08:04, David Whytcross wrote: Hi guys, am hoping you may be able to assist with an enquiry my FreeBSD 9.0 machine is fitted with an NVIDIA GEForce 210 card is it possible to utilize its CUDA GPU operability

Re: portupgrade - portmaster Rosetta Stone?

2012-02-26 Thread Royce Williams
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 02/25/2012 16:33, Royce Williams wrote: I really did mean that I was looking for a Rosetta Stone Yes, I know what a Rosetta Stone is, so I understood what you were asking for. Apologies - I didn't mean to imply

portupgrade - portmaster Rosetta Stone?

2012-02-25 Thread Royce Williams
I noticed that the portupgrade port got returned to ports@ with this note: ports-mgmt/portupgrade - Reassign to ports@ please consider using ports-mgmt/portmaster Discussed with: bugmeister(eadler, linimon), ruby(swills, pgollucci) via #bsdports 22 Feb 2012 - pgollucci

Re: portupgrade - portmaster Rosetta Stone?

2012-02-25 Thread Royce Williams
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: It's not too hard to switch.  Read the portmaster(8) man page Yes please. :)  And that's, read, not skim or search. I put a lot of work into explaining the what/why/how, which will help you understand the tool and how to

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

2010-11-19 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Royce Williams royce.willi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net wrote: portsnap5 has less weight now and is in fact being used less. My systems are more frequently using other servers now. A few days ago portsnap5

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

2010-11-19 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net wrote: portsnap5 has less weight now and is in fact being used less. My systems are more frequently using other servers now. A few days ago portsnap5 did not respond, anyway in that case portsnap simply timed out and tried

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

2010-10-21 Thread Royce Williams
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:31:24 +0200 Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net wrote: I have noticed on the machines I use/administer a bias towards portsnap5. If you define a cache environment variable the random choice is seeded by