Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-16 Thread Vlad K.
On 2016-12-16 11:08, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote: There are two problems with this: 1) Many ports have no maintainer 2) Even more ports have no tests at all We can't have our cake and eat it :) Obviously, a STABLE repo would have to be a subset of ports, not all 26k of them. The criteria I

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-16 Thread Torsten Zuehlsdorff
On 16.12.2016 08:24, David Demelier wrote: 2016-12-15 17:25 GMT+01:00 Matthew Seaman : On 2016/12/15 16:01, Olivier Duchateau wrote: The problem is that there are no tests in FreeBSD ports. All source based systems I've tested: pkgsrc, FreeBSD ports, OpenBSD, Gentoo;

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 15/12/2016 9:43 PM, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote: On 15.12.2016 14:16, David Demelier wrote: [...] What I want: a ports tree that matches the FreeBSD version like OpenBSD. You have FreeBSD 11.0? You get a ports tree for that version specifically. No major update, no breaking changes. Just bug

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Vlad K. wrote: The quarterly branch (Q) is intended to provide a set of "stable" packages that in the lifetime of such a branch, receive only bug and security fixes. That is the theory and intent behind the branch. In practice, however: 1. The Q branch is cut off at predetermined dates (ie.

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 2016/12/15 16:01, Olivier Duchateau wrote: >> The problem is that there are no tests in FreeBSD ports. All source >> based systems I've tested: pkgsrc, FreeBSD ports, OpenBSD, Gentoo; >> FreeBSD is the one that have the most instability. Not to mention >> committers that commit without testing

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread Olivier Duchateau
On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:16:18 +0100 David Demelier wrote: > 2016-11-16 13:17 GMT+01:00 Vlad K. : > > The quarterly branch (Q) is intended to provide a set of "stable" packages > > that in the lifetime of such a branch, receive only bug and

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote on 2016/12/15 14:43: The problem is that there are no tests in FreeBSD ports. All source based systems I've tested: pkgsrc, FreeBSD ports, OpenBSD, Gentoo; FreeBSD is the one that have the most instability. Not to mention committers that commit without testing the

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread Torsten Zuehlsdorff
On 15.12.2016 14:16, David Demelier wrote: 2016-11-16 13:17 GMT+01:00 Vlad K. : The quarterly branch (Q) is intended to provide a set of "stable" packages that in the lifetime of such a branch, receive only bug and security fixes. That is the theory and intent behind

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-15 Thread David Demelier
2016-11-16 13:17 GMT+01:00 Vlad K. : > The quarterly branch (Q) is intended to provide a set of "stable" packages > that in the lifetime of such a branch, receive only bug and security fixes. > That is the theory and intent behind the branch. In practice, however: > >

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-14 Thread Julian Elischer
Please add my voice to this.. It's not really that much that needs to be done. lets just call it 'learning from experience' Also, the quarterly PACKAGES should be kept around a bit longer too. and the pkg archives need to be in a layout that the system installer can be pointed at them in 4

(In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-11-16 Thread Vlad K.
The quarterly branch (Q) is intended to provide a set of "stable" packages that in the lifetime of such a branch, receive only bug and security fixes. That is the theory and intent behind the branch. In practice, however: 1. The Q branch is cut off at predetermined dates (ie. not when it's