Am 13.07.2012 18:20, schrieb John Baldwin:
To clarify, you are not being criticized for speaking up, you are being
criticized for the way in which you are speaking up (an accusatory tone) and
for blowing off a pointer to a talk that would perhaps answer some of your
questions.
John,
for
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:44:56AM +0200, n j wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
Would it be possible to start an FAQ page somewhere on pkgng wiki?
There were some good questions in this thread and even better answers
to them.
Just putting
On 16/07/2012 04:32, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
What is pkg
---
pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for
the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package manager.
A couple
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 16/07/2012 04:32, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
What is pkg
---
pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement
for
On 16/07/2012 05:22, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
It's one of reason why I do not agree to remove the shared library
version from the LIB_DEPENDS, so that way in future someone can add
support in the package to check on shared library version then prevent
package to install because it's not ABI
On 2012-Jul-16 07:18:05 +0100, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
No. Parallel installs will not work -- the first to start will lock the
DB, and the second won't be able to proceed.
Good - it was the locking I was mostly concerned about. As long as
the install is locked, it's safe to
On 2012-Jul-16 08:44:56 +0200, n j nin...@gmail.com wrote:
Would it be possible to start an FAQ page somewhere on pkgng wiki?
There's already one at
https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/blob/master/FAQ.md
I think it might be useful to expand it a bit.
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 16/07/2012 05:22, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
It's one of reason why I do not agree to remove the shared library
version from the LIB_DEPENDS, so that way in future someone can add
support in the package to check on
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jason Helfman j...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Peter Wemm pe...@wemm.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the
requirement
of having
On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
What is pkg
---
pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for
the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package manager.
A couple of specific questions that I haven't seen
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Jeremy pe...@rulingia.com wrote:
On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
What is pkg
---
pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for
the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Peter Wemm pe...@wemm.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the
requirement
of having the complete ports tree on my system?
What I am looking for in an
Am 13.07.12 01:10, schrieb Doug Barton:
On 07/12/2012 03:02 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after
the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the
requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system?
What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any
files needed for the parent port and its dependents to automatically be
downloaded. So in the end my
Am 13.07.12 14:14, schrieb Fbsd8:
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the
requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system?
What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any
files needed for the parent port and its dependents to
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I
Sure, the next time I have an hour to spare.
I don't think what I'm
On 13/07/2012 13:14, Fbsd8 wrote:
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the
requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system?
What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any
files needed for the parent port and its dependents to
On 7/13/2012 3:16 AM, Michael Ranner wrote:
I was also a bit concerned and reserved to pkgng. But I am also in
contact with some local FreeBSD ports committers and one of them (decke)
told me some stories about pkgng and poudriere. I saw the talk from Beat
Gätzi (beat) at EU BSD Day 2012 about
On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I
Sure, the next time I have an hour
On 7/13/2012 10:36 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:
On 13 July 2012 17:02, Bryan Drewery br...@shatow.net wrote:
On 7/13/2012 10:36 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote:
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:52:24 -0500, Bryan Drewery br...@shatow.net wrote:
This explains how you can setup your own repository and build your own
packages with poudriere+pkgng:
Yes, and it's fantastic. I'm currently using it to build updates for my
low powered laptop at home and the
On Friday, July 13, 2012 11:36:11 am Doug Barton wrote:
Also, please keep in mind that I was criticized for *not* speaking up
about the OPTIONS changes, now I'm being criticized *for* speaking up
prior to pkg going live. In spite of the fact that I'm doing my best to
(repeatedly) be clear that
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement
of having the complete ports tree on my system?
What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any files
needed for the parent port
Hi,
On behalf of the pkgng team I'm really pleased to announce pkg 1.0 RC1 (aka
pkgng)
Only bug fixes will be accepted in the RC phase.
What is pkg
---
pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for
the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
Third party tools
-
Tools supporting natively pkgng
- ports-mgmt/portupgrade-devel (soon the main portupgrade will support)
- ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves
- ports-mgmt/poudriere
-
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
Tools being worked on (or I heard people are interested) :
- salt support (in version 0.10)
http://salt.readthedocs.org/en/v0.10.0/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.freebsdpkg.html
- cfengine support
And here's a
I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after
the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions
before the change, so I'm asking these questions now; in a genuine
attempt to get information.
On 07/12/2012 03:01 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
In the
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
1. What are the goals for pkg?
2. Why can't the existing tools fulfill those goals?
3. How does pkg fulfill them?
Hi,
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I
Sure, the next time I have an hour to spare.
I don't think what I'm asking for is unreasonable. One could even
conclude that answering
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after
the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions
before the change, so I'm asking these questions now; in a genuine
attempt to get
Doug Barton wrote:
What I'm looking for is compelling motivation to make this overwhelming
change to the ports infrastructure.
Because the present state of the ports system is not a compelling enough
reason? My
arms are falling …
--
Michel Talon
ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr
On 07/12/2012 03:02 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after
the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions
before the change, so I'm asking these
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