Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/13/11 4:52 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > I'm rather tired of being called to defend myself, I see no reason why you should find it necessary. Bravo for the work you've done. > I've plenty of better things to be doing. > Agreed. Julian, amongst others this past few weeks, have successfully made

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 Sep 2011 20:57, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Chris Rees > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 > > Message-id: > > Chris Rees wrote: > > On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Reference: > > >> From: Chr

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Chris Rees > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 > Message-id: > Chris Rees wrote: > On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, > > Reference: > >> From:         Chris Rees > >> Date:         Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 > >> M

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Chris Rees wrote: > On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Matthias Andree wrote: > >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> >> the first place). > >> > > >> > Bullshit! > >> > >> I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotio

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From:         Chris Rees >> Date:         Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 >> Message-id:   >> > > Chris Rees wrote: >> On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> > Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> >> An obscure p

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Chris Rees > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 > Message-id: > Chris Rees wrote: > On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Matthias Andree wrote: > >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >>

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in >> >> the first place). >> > >> > Bullshit! >> >> I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we >> should stop it. > > No.

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: > >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> the first place). > > > > Bullshit! > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > should stop it. No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revo

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-10 Thread Matthias Andree
>> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in >> the first place). > > Bullshit! I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we should stop it. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.free

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: > > > Having a poor port of an obscure > > piece of software is better, than no port at all. > > A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first > place). Highly deb

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:01:09AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Matthias Andree wrote: > > Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: > > > > > Having a poor port of an obscure > > > piece of software is better, than no port at all. > > > > A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the t

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: > > > Having a poor port of an obscure > > piece of software is better, than no port at all. > > A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first > place). Wrong. A `poor' port is is still a port else it woul

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: > > An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > the first place). Wait -- what? Why should something not be ported if it's not popular? -- Chad Perrin [ ori

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: > Having a poor port of an obscure > piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place).

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Michel Talon
"Mikhail T." wrote: >Having to deal with RedHat's yum at work, I got to say, I'd rather be >building from source, than installing from "consistent packages", that >somebody else built *to their* tastes. Fedora crap is a very bad example. The canonical example of a binary distribution which *works

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Mikhail T.
On 08.09.2011 04:42, Greg Byshenk wrote: For many people, what "THERE IS A PORT OF IT" actually -means- is that the user can go to ports and install a -working- version of the software, not merley that there is something called 'IT' somewhere in the ports tree that may or may not work. Some por

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:15:04PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: > On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: > >Non sequitur. The large number of ports that we support IS a feature. > >However, it's also a pretty big maintenance burden. Especially when you > >consider the number of those ports that

ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-07 Thread Mikhail T.
On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: Non sequitur. The large number of ports that we support IS a feature. However, it's also a pretty big maintenance burden. Especially when you consider the number of those ports that are either actually or effectively unmaintained. Support? What suppor