Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-31 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:35:30 -0500 Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:14:28PM -0400 I heard the voice of Yoshihiro Ota, and lo! it spake thus: Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's not. Lots of ports change dependancies based on what's

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-31 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 11:46:03PM -0400 I heard the voice of Yoshihiro Ota, and lo! it spake thus: 1. Is this about RUN_DEPENDS in makefiles? Yes, but conditional. For instance, see audio/teknap: .if ${HAVE_GNOME:Mgtk12}!= USE_GNOME+= gtk12 CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--with-gtk PKGNAMESUFFIX= -gtk

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-29 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:14:28PM -0400 I heard the voice of Yoshihiro Ota, and lo! it spake thus: Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's not. Lots of ports change dependancies based on what's installed, so if you install one thing you have to assume that any other thing

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-28 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 09:48:47PM -0400 I heard the voice of Yoshihiro Ota, and lo! it spake thus: Q. Is it safe to assume all dependencies are STATIC? A. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Lots of ports change dependancies based on what's installed, so if you install one thing you have to assume

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-28 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:49:39 -0700 Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiro, I'm happy to respond to you, but first I'd like to make clear that I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. If there is a better way to manage ports, or even just a different approach, I'm all for it. I don't

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-28 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:59:36 -0500 Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 09:48:47PM -0400 I heard the voice of Yoshihiro Ota, and lo! it spake thus: Q. Is it safe to assume all dependencies are STATIC? A. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Lots of ports change

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-28 Thread Doug Barton
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Yoshihiro Ota wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:49:39 -0700 Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiro, I'm happy to respond to you, but first I'd like to make clear that I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. If there is a better way to manage ports, or even just a

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Barton
Yoshihiro Ota wrote: I think portmaster is also one tries to read and do the same things but with shell script. Not exactly the same things. Portmaster doesn't keep any external database, it only updates what is in /var/db/pkg. I personally didn't have good luck with portmaster and haven't

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
Yoshihiro Ota wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:17:50 -0700 Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ota wrote: To Whom Slowness of Portupgrade Concerns a Lot: As I got tired of long waiting of portupgrade trying to resolve dependencies, I came up with yet another tool for

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Barton
Garrett Cooper wrote: Every time you run make install, portmaster, or portupgrade, there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. One of the things involved is installing package information in /var/db/pkg. That's where pkg_version gets its information from, along with portmaster

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:47:14 -0700 Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ota wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:17:50 -0700 Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ota wrote: Portupgrade is not only slow reading INDEX file but also on dependency

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:57:34 -0700 Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ota wrote: I think portmaster is also one tries to read and do the same things but with shell script. Not exactly the same things. Portmaster doesn't keep any external database, it only updates what is in

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Barton
Hiro, I'm happy to respond to you, but first I'd like to make clear that I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. If there is a better way to manage ports, or even just a different approach, I'm all for it. I don't think portmaster is a one size fits all tool, and I'm not trying to make it

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
Yoshihiro Ota wrote: To Whom Slowness of Portupgrade Concerns a Lot: As I got tired of long waiting of portupgrade trying to resolve dependencies, I came up with yet another tool for upgrading FreeBSD ports system. Unlink other tools, it tries to maximize existing resource to maximize its

Re: Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-26 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:17:50 -0700 Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ota wrote: To Whom Slowness of Portupgrade Concerns a Lot: As I got tired of long waiting of portupgrade trying to resolve dependencies, I came up with yet another tool for upgrading FreeBSD ports

Call for testers for yet another ports upgrade program, ports+

2007-07-25 Thread Yoshihiro Ota
To Whom Slowness of Portupgrade Concerns a Lot: As I got tired of long waiting of portupgrade trying to resolve dependencies, I came up with yet another tool for upgrading FreeBSD ports system. Unlink other tools, it tries to maximize existing resource to maximize its performance. This