Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread perryh
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but it is not going to matter much to what extent a license has to do with this besides ease of mind maybe. We would not be using the source for the VCS in a repo that holds the source that is being distributed and none of

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:27 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: As I understand it, what is being suggested is the adoption of a new code base for a significant piece of infrastructure. I think the proposal is at less risk of being summarily rejected if it can viably be based on BSD-licensed

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
This dvcs is BSD licensed: IMHO, if it's worth to change VCS, it would be much wiser to use well-known one -- Regards, Konstantin ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.comwrote: Given the amount of GPL'd software in the base system, why are we already fighting over licensing? What is it with the open-source world and obsessing with licensing? It should be up for discussion after

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
22.09.2010, 14:11, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: BSD license has a particular advantage in embedded/black box systems, so not polluting base with more viral licensing is pretty important to project as whole I think. Do embedded systems really need to use ports tree? I guess no, or

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
Smells like Debian. Smells like Slashdot. I give up. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.comwrote: Given the amount of GPL'd software in the base system, why are we already

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:07:17 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2). http://www.keltia.net/BSDCan/paper.pdf 3). http://bit.ly/97Y8Xi 4). Because CVS just does not do any of this. Make your final comparison here: http://bit.ly/cyQBn8 For the sake of argument can you think of any reason to not switch ? Why not Git? Or you

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread jhell
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:17, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: In Message-Id: 174981284967...@web24.yandex.ru 1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2). http://www.keltia.net/BSDCan/paper.pdf 3). http://bit.ly/97Y8Xi 4). Because CVS just does not do any of this. Make your final comparison here:

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 20/09/2010 03:01, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: Insert VCS discussion here Is this just my impression or are we trying to build a bikeshed here? I think we all agree, that the stage is not set for a VCS change.

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread perryh
Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru wrote: Why not Git? One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. Granted SVN, currently used to manage src, is

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Romain Tartière
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:20:39AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: SVN [...] is GPL; nope, it's under Apache License 2.0, see: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/LICENSE -- Romain Tartière rom...@blogreen.orghttp://romain.blogreen.org/ pgp: 8234 9A78 E7C0 B807 0B59

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Janne Snabb
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. The project currently uses Perforce for many

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread perryh
Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. The project

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread jhell
On 09/20/2010 22:07, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a

Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread jhell
On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring us, that would overcome the effort needed to do it (committers, users, infrastructure, tools). 1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2).

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:38:28 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring us, that would overcome the effort needed to do it (committers, users,

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:38:28 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring