Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-09 Thread Bernhard Froehlich
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:27:49 +0200, George Liaskos wrote: >> Building INDEX is not essential in this thread, merging trees is >> closer to subject, >> but primary I want, that testing development version of ports will be >> simpler. >> >> Please look at: 'Firefox 4 - Beta' threat: >> http://lists.f

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-09 Thread Michal Varga
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 22:27 +0200, George Liaskos wrote: > > Martin wrote: > >> I'll cleanup all the mess and commit all stuff to the xorg-dev repo. Maybe > >> someone have intressing to test it. > > but without any info where I can find xorg-dev repo, > > How I can test new xorg, since I don't kn

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-09 Thread George Liaskos
> Building INDEX is not essential in this thread, merging trees is > closer to subject, > but primary I want, that testing development version of ports will be simpler. > > Please look at: 'Firefox 4 - Beta' threat: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-March/066353.html > some pe

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-09 Thread Grzegorz Blach
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 18:13, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Michel Talon wrote: > >>> My experience is that all FreeBSD ports tools are incredibly slow, be it >>> portupgrade, portmaster, even the basic tools like pkg_version. Maybe it >>>

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-08 Thread b. f.
>portmaster -L --index-only 0.76s user 1.65s system 6% cpu 38.871 total > >So it takes 38s on a *very small* installation. My experience is that >all FreeBSD ports tools are incredibly slow, be it portupgrade, >portmaster, even the basic tools like pkg_version. Maybe it would help >to recognize th

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-08 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Michel Talon wrote: My experience is that all FreeBSD ports tools are incredibly slow, be it portupgrade, portmaster, even the basic tools like pkg_version. Maybe it would help to recognize that such observations are perhaps not unre

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-08 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Michel Talon wrote: Warren Block writes: portmaster -L | filterfu: 43.6 pkg_version -vl'<':30.5 portversion -vl'<': 3.6 portmaster -L --index-only: 2.5 I don't have the same experience by far: on a jail i have: . ===>>> 68 total installed ports

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-08 Thread Michel Talon
Warren Block writes: > It continues to amaze me how much you have in there. Oh, and my times > earlier were probably user time rather than wall time, for which I'll > shiftily blame the difference between csh's time builtin and > /usr/bin/time. Redoing that: > > portmaster -L | filterfu: 43.

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Doug Barton wrote: On 03/06/2011 17:59, Warren Block wrote: pkg_version is somewhat faster. True, but 'portmaster -L' (with a ports tree) gives you more information. Such as when ports you have installed have been DEPRECATED or MOVED. :) 'portmaster -L --index-only' is

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/06/2011 17:59, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Doug Barton wrote: On 03/06/2011 16:40, Olivier Smedts wrote: Could you use "pkg_version -vL =" for your purpose ? It's a base system tool and doesn't need INDEX. If all you want to know is what ports need updating, portmaster has

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Doug Barton wrote: On 03/06/2011 16:40, Olivier Smedts wrote: Could you use "pkg_version -vL =" for your purpose ? It's a base system tool and doesn't need INDEX. If all you want to know is what ports need updating, portmaster has an option for that. There is also an ali

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/06/2011 16:40, Olivier Smedts wrote: Could you use "pkg_version -vL =" for your purpose ? It's a base system tool and doesn't need INDEX. If all you want to know is what ports need updating, portmaster has an option for that. There is also an alias to abbreviate the output in the man p

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/3/6 Grzegorz Blach : > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 23:25, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 03/06/2011 10:37, Grzegorz Blach wrote: >>> >>> On 03/06/2011 18:35, b. f. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Grzegorz Blach
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 23:25, Doug Barton wrote: > On 03/06/2011 10:37, Grzegorz Blach wrote: >> >> On 03/06/2011 18:35, b. f. wrote: >>>> >>>> I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!" >>>> >>

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/06/2011 10:37, Grzegorz Blach wrote: On 03/06/2011 18:35, b. f. wrote: I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!" First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports No argument there, it can be hard work. I'm using testing r

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread b. f.
On 3/6/11, Grzegorz Blach wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/06/2011 18:35, b. f. wrote: ... >>> First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports. ... > Multiple trees don't help me a lot, portmaster became fools. > There is no significant difference if I use v

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Grzegorz Blach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2011 18:35, b. f. wrote: >> I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!" >> >> First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports. >> >> I'm using testing r

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Alberto Villa
On Sunday 06 March 2011 18:35:10 b. f. wrote: > It sounds like you are using the wrong tools. Although portsnap (which > is not best suited for this purpose) has path arguments and an -l flag > that can be used to add or preserve local changes, and both portmaster > and portupgrade have options to

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread b. f.
On 3/6/11, b. f. wrote: ... >> First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports. ... >> Another possibility is replace ports in disk, but after upgrade tree eg. >> with portsnap I lose my changes, and portmaster want to rebuild these >> ports to stable release. ... > It sounds like you are us

Re: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread b. f.
> I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!" > > First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports. > > I'm using testing release of VirtualBox, > but for build this port I must download patches, > apply its on my own

FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!

2011-03-06 Thread Grzegorz Blach
I read last post Martin Wilke's blog called "FreeBSD needs fresh Blood!" First of all, I think it's difficult to testing ports. I'm using testing release of VirtualBox, but for build this port I must download patches, apply its on my own tree and merge its with offici