Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-19 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Fri, 18 May 2007, James Snyder wrote: Regarding the trials and tribulations. I did not, at first, get the message that one shouldn't overlay the testing tree on top of the older tree, and did the first libXft upgrade at that point. That failed and subsequently I needed to do a series

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-18 Thread David Thiel
So, I've upgraded one more machine, an X60 Tablet, and have run into some issues on this one. First and most important, my ability to use the 1920x1200 resolution has disappeared. I've been using the 915resolution tool to add this mode to the 945GM bios, but Xorg now insists there is no mode of

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-18 Thread James Snyder
Another successful upgrade to report, although not without some trials and tribulations. The end result is that I have things going with the NVIDIA drivers, compositing works (I've even fired up Compiz and though that's not 100% stable, it's quite usable so long as a few things are avoided.

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-18 Thread Craig Boston
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:24:02PM -0500, James Snyder wrote: Window decorations died once while switching back and forth to another virtual terminal and GL screensavers hang up (first frame rendered, subsequent ones do not). I've been meaning to post on this subject, though have been looking

Saving old shared libs (Was: Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans)

2007-05-17 Thread Doug Barton
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:06:59AM +0200, Thierry Thomas wrote: Le Lun 7 mai 07 ? 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?crivait?: The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the

Re: Saving old shared libs (Was: Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans)

2007-05-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:06:02PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: At the same time, I think it's probably worthwhile to examine what the goals of the ports system are in this regard. If the goal is to always provide a fail-safe upgrade path for users then perhaps we should be talking about

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-08 Thread Ken Yamada
Would you please inform the progress (or, schedule), so far? port tree looks very quiet in these few days and I cannot see any xorg7.2 in my cvsup'd port tree... ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-08 Thread Rene Ladan
2007/5/8, Ken Yamada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would you please inform the progress (or, schedule), so far? port tree looks very quiet in these few days and I cannot see any xorg7.2 in my cvsup'd port tree... Currently most development happens in the git repository. You can look at

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-08 Thread Ken Yamada
From: Rene Ladan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently most development happens in the git repository. You can look at http://git.xbsd.org/?p=freebsd/ports.git;a=summary to see what goes on. No, http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg; says; --Quote-- Disclaimer If you read about the git repository,

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-08 Thread Florent Thoumie
Ken Yamada wrote: From: Rene Ladan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently most development happens in the git repository. You can look at http://git.xbsd.org/?p=freebsd/ports.git;a=summary to see what goes on. No, http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg; says; --Quote-- Disclaimer If you read

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-08 Thread Ken Yamada
Thank you, Florent. I understand that we need to be patient another two days... ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Doug Barton
Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade. Because this is a huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very carefully. Good news that this is moving forward! Congrats to

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:38:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade. Because this is a huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 13:42:31 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:38:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade.

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism. I am one of people

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this a while

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it saves old

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:44:14PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: No, at a

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:44:14 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: No, at a

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Thierry Thomas
Le Lun 7 mai 07 à 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait : The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that depends on them as well. For example the gettext upgrade got triggered on my

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:06:59AM +0200, Thierry Thomas wrote: Le Lun 7 mai 07 ? 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?crivait?: The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that depends

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:06:59AM +0200, Thierry Thomas wrote: Le Lun 7 mai 07 ? 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?crivait?: The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that depends

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 18:26 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: I dispute the correctness of this entry. The old libraries in lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds. The only situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions of the library is if it pulls in a

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
Brian Gruber wrote: Ok, no worries then. I have no plans to add that feature at this time, partly because there has been no user demand for it, and mostly because I don't like the idea. I recognize however that reasonable minds may differ on that topic. if you don't like the idea, that's

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread mal content
/usr/local Hello. Why is FreeBSD using /usr/local instead of /usr/X11R7? thanks, MC ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
mal content wrote: /usr/local Hello. Why is FreeBSD using /usr/local instead of /usr/X11R7? thanks, MC A version dependant directory structure hasn't been a good idea in the first place. No one was really able to tell weather to put a port into /usr/X11R6 or /usr/local anyway.

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:43:47PM +0100, mal content wrote: /usr/local Hello. Why is FreeBSD using /usr/local instead of /usr/X11R7? /usr/local is the new de facto standard, AFAIK no-one is using /usr/X11R7. Kris ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread mal content
On 03/05/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:43:47PM +0100, mal content wrote: /usr/local Hello. Why is FreeBSD using /usr/local instead of /usr/X11R7? /usr/local is the new de facto standard, AFAIK no-one is using /usr/X11R7. Kris Oh, OK. thanks, MC

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread Danny Pansters
On Thursday 03 May 2007 19:12:45 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: mal content wrote: /usr/local Hello. Why is FreeBSD using /usr/local instead of /usr/X11R7? thanks, MC A version dependant directory structure hasn't been a good idea in the first place. No one was really able to tell

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread Robert Huff
Danny Pansters writes: /usr/X11R6 was a long standing bug about to be fixed once and for all. IIRC it originated from fixed paths in the old XFree. It won't be missed or mourned :) While I understand why this is going to happen, I've been of the opinion it ought to be retained with

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-03 Thread Coleman Kane
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 15:37 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Danny Pansters writes: /usr/X11R6 was a long standing bug about to be fixed once and for all. IIRC it originated from fixed paths in the old XFree. It won't be missed or mourned :) While I understand why this is going to

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:40:26PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade. Because this is a huge and disruptive

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:40:26PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Secondly, X7.2 as I tried it wouldn't startx if some other login had created a .Xauthority file. While rm .Xauthority solved the problem completely, I don't think this is user

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Martin Tournoij wrote: On Wed 02 May 2007 14:05, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade. Because this is

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:26:25PM -0600, Coleman Kane wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 15:43 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:40:26PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: In particular all ports committers are expected to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :) Our marketing folks educated me to use the phrase drinking our own champagne instead. :) 5) CVS will stay frozen for a period to be evaluated

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Coleman Kane
On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 15:43 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:40:26PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:36:03PM +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: In particular all ports committers are expected to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :) Our marketing folks educated me to use the phrase drinking our own

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:36:03PM +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: Does this freeze apply to the whole ports tree, or only (relatively directly) affected parts of the tree? The latter is basically most of the tree :-) mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:31:59PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: 3) Once the proposed upgrade method is in place, we will publish a tarball of the prepared ports tree and request that *all* our ports developers test the upgrade on their own machines before it is committed to CVS. There are many

Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:31:59PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: Hi all, After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade. Because this is a huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very carefully. The