Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-09-01 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 31/08/2011 20:08 Matthias Andree said the following: > If everyone cared to read not just the past three posts but what was > written earlier in this whole thread, and ceased adding to the > meaningless "I've had no problems", that would help. > > Just because someone hasn't tripped over the bu

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Ade Lovett
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:11:02 +0200 Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 31.08.2011 07:43, schrieb Ade Lovett: > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:06:15 +0200 > > 1. In the context of a FreeBSD port, there is absolutely nothing > > wrong with mail/procmail as it stands. That is to say, it compiles > > and runs on

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 31.08.2011 07:43, schrieb Ade Lovett: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:06:15 +0200 > Matthias Andree wrote: >> Once you have the necessary error handling in place in >> your .procmailrc, a .mailfilter file of equal usefulness in maildrop >> is shorter and more concise. > > 1. In the context of a Free

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 23:45, schrieb Beech Rintoul: > I second that, I also have it installed in several places and haven't had any > problems. I don't want to have to move to another app just because someone > feels like deprecating a mature port. I think the old addage "if it ain't > broke" applies h

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 30 August 2011 23:37:48 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:57:10 +0200 > > Matthias Andree wrote: > > I understand that keeping unchanging software can sometimes be > > necessary, if you're working around its quirks. > > > > At the same time I'd like to discourage new

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On 2011-Aug-30, 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2011 11:01:18 Ted Hatfield wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Matthias Andree wrote: > > > Am 30.08.2011 19:57, schrieb Mark Linimon: > > >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > >>> It only warns, it doe

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-31 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:57:10 +0200 Matthias Andree wrote: > > I understand that keeping unchanging software can sometimes be > necessary, if you're working around its quirks. > > At the same time I'd like to discourage new installations of dead > software so that it disappears over time, rather

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Ade Lovett
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:06:15 +0200 Matthias Andree wrote: > Once you have the necessary error handling in place in > your .procmailrc, a .mailfilter file of equal usefulness in maildrop > is shorter and more concise. 1. In the context of a FreeBSD port, there is absolutely nothing wrong with mai

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread perryh
Matthias Andree wrote: > I understand that keeping unchanging software can sometimes be > necessary, if you're working around its quirks. > > At the same time I'd like to discourage new installations of dead > software so that it disappears over time, rather than haunt fresh > systems. > > How ab

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 30 August 2011 11:01:18 Ted Hatfield wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Matthias Andree wrote: > > Am 30.08.2011 19:57, schrieb Mark Linimon: > >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > >>> It only warns, it does not prevent fresh installs on systems that don't > >

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Ted Hatfield
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 30.08.2011 19:57, schrieb Mark Linimon: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: It only warns, it does not prevent fresh installs on systems that don't have the same port/package already installed. "code, not policy" ...

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 19:57, schrieb Mark Linimon: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: >> It only warns, it does not prevent fresh installs on systems that don't >> have the same port/package already installed. > > "code, not policy" ... ? Well... is _is_ policy and meant a

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > It only warns, it does not prevent fresh installs on systems that don't > have the same port/package already installed. "code, not policy" ... ? mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 19:29, schrieb Chris Rees: > On 30 August 2011 17:39, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 05:57:10PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: >>> How about if we added a new tag "OBSOLESCENT" or so that permits >>> building the software only if it's already installed but refuses new

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 August 2011 17:39, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 05:57:10PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: >> How about if we added a new tag "OBSOLESCENT" or so that permits >> building the software only if it's already installed but refuses new >> installations? > > Right now if you set DEP

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 05:57:10PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > How about if we added a new tag "OBSOLESCENT" or so that permits > building the software only if it's already installed but refuses new > installations? Right now if you set DEPRECATED you'll get a warning. Shouldn't that be suffi

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Matthias Andree on Tuesday, 30 August 2011: > Am 30.08.2011 14:27, schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > > [maildrop] > >>> - Can it use the 700+ lines long .procmailrc I have running > >>> in a criticial application or do I have to migrate that ? > >> > >> You'd have to migrate that. > > > > That's what

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 17:24, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > Matthias Andree wrote: >> Am 30.08.2011 10:23, schrieb Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh: >>> sunpoet 2011-08-30 08:23:18 UTC >>> >>> FreeBSD ports repository >>> >>> Modified files: >>> mail/procmailMakefile >>> Log: >>> - Take maintai

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
On the procmail depracation topic, Warren Block wrote: > Some initial searching shows that maildrop is a functional replacement > and can be used with sendmail's local_procmail feature, but the rules > are different. There could be other functionality which users depend > on, like formail, which

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 14:27, schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > [maildrop] >>> - Can it use the 700+ lines long .procmailrc I have running >>> in a criticial application or do I have to migrate that ? >> >> You'd have to migrate that. > > That's what I assumed. > >> Bottom line: the sooner we get rid from procmail

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 30.08.2011 10:23, schrieb Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh: > > sunpoet 2011-08-30 08:23:18 UTC > > > > FreeBSD ports repository > > > > Modified files: > > mail/procmailMakefile > > Log: > > - Take maintainership > > > > Revision ChangesPath >

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 30.08.2011 10:23, schrieb Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh: sunpoet 2011-08-30 08:23:18 UTC FreeBSD ports repository Modified files: mail/procmailMakefile Log: - Take maintainership Revision ChangesPath 1.60 +1 -1

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Kurt Jaeger
[maildrop] > > - Can it use the 700+ lines long .procmailrc I have running > > in a criticial application or do I have to migrate that ? > > You'd have to migrate that. That's what I assumed. > Bottom line: the sooner we get rid from procmail the better. There are many other applications that

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Frank Wall
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:11:52PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > - Can it use the 700+ lines long .procmailrc I have running > in a criticial application or do I have to migrate that ? I would suggest to migrate to something new. While searching for a procmail replacement myself, I've even found

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 13:11, schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > Hi! > >>> Modified files: >>> mail/procmailMakefile > [...] >> Now that you're maintaining it I seek you to please let this >> unmaintained unclean code from our FreeBSD ports world and deprecate it. > [...] >> maildrop (courier's filterin

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Matthias Andree wrote on 30.08.2011 15:06: Am 30.08.2011 10:23, schrieb Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh: sunpoet 2011-08-30 08:23:18 UTC FreeBSD ports repository Modified files: mail/procmailMakefile Log: - Take maintainership Revision ChangesPath 1.60 +1 -

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > > Modified files: > > mail/procmailMakefile [...] > Now that you're maintaining it I seek you to please let this > unmaintained unclean code from our FreeBSD ports world and deprecate it. [...] > maildrop (courier's filtering agent) has been around for nearly as long > and wor

Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/procmail Makefile

2011-08-30 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 30.08.2011 10:23, schrieb Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh: > sunpoet 2011-08-30 08:23:18 UTC > > FreeBSD ports repository > > Modified files: > mail/procmailMakefile > Log: > - Take maintainership > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.60 +1 -1 ports/mail/procmail/M