Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-16 Thread b.f.
Mark wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:51:39AM +, RW wrote: Reports are sent to ports@ every 2 weeks. And I wonder how many people read carefully through all 478 entries. And your suggestion is ... ? Try ports/ports-mgmt/portupdate-scan. b.

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-16 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 16.01.2013 09:48, schrieb b.f.: Mark wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:51:39AM +, RW wrote: Reports are sent to ports@ every 2 weeks. And I wonder how many people read carefully through all 478 entries. And your suggestion is ... ? Try ports/ports-mgmt/portupdate-scan. I just

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-16 Thread Alex Stangl
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:38:50AM +0100, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 16.01.2013 09:48, schrieb b.f.: Mark wrote: Try ports/ports-mgmt/portupdate-scan. I just wanted to give it a try, but it does not seem to support PKGNG. (I'll have a look to check whether that's easy to fix ...) I was under

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-16 Thread Alex Stangl
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 08:48:37AM +, b.f. wrote: Mark wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:51:39AM +, RW wrote: Reports are sent to ports@ every 2 weeks. And I wonder how many people read carefully through all 478 entries. And your suggestion is ... ? Try

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-16 Thread b.f.
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 08:48:37AM +, b.f. wrote: Mark wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:51:39AM +, RW wrote: Reports are sent to ports@ every 2 weeks. And I wonder how many people read carefully through all 478 entries. And your suggestion is ... ? Try

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Boris Samorodov
14.01.2013 12:56, Matthew Seaman пишет: On 14/01/2013 08:43, Boris Samorodov wrote: 13.01.2013 20:22, Chris Rees пишет: Pkgng is also part of the ports tree nowadays, and portmanager must support it. The old pkg_install suite will be removed soon. Portmanager needs fixing! That threaten

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 Jan 2013 12:31, Boris Samorodov b...@passap.ru wrote: 14.01.2013 12:56, Matthew Seaman пишет: On 14/01/2013 08:43, Boris Samorodov wrote: 13.01.2013 20:22, Chris Rees пишет: Pkgng is also part of the ports tree nowadays, and portmanager must support it. The old pkg_install suite

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 09:57:16AM -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: Yes pkgng is not default today, but it will be someday IIUC pkgng is default on -CURRENT. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:02:13PM +, RW wrote: FreeBSD doesn't exactly announce deprecation on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of The Leopard but it's pretty close. See, e.g.,

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 1/15/2013 5:53 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 09:57:16AM -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: Yes pkgng is not default today, but it will be someday IIUC pkgng is default on -CURRENT. mcl Ah yes, thank you for reminding me. It was one of the motivators here; ensuring all

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread RW
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:56:50 -0600 Mark Linimon wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:02:13PM +, RW wrote: FreeBSD doesn't exactly announce deprecation on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of The Leopard but

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr
On 01/15/13 19:51, RW wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:56:50 -0600 Mark Linimon wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:02:13PM +, RW wrote: FreeBSD doesn't exactly announce deprecation on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:51:39 + RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:56:50 -0600 Mark Linimon wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:02:13PM +, RW wrote: FreeBSD doesn't exactly announce deprecation on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:51:39AM +, RW wrote: Reports are sent to ports@ every 2 weeks. And I wonder how many people read carefully through all 478 entries. And your suggestion is ... ? mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-14 Thread Boris Samorodov
13.01.2013 20:22, Chris Rees пишет: Pkgng is also part of the ports tree nowadays, and portmanager must support it. The old pkg_install suite will be removed soon. Portmanager needs fixing! That threaten me a bit. Will pkg_install be removed soon from all supported versions? -- WBR, Boris

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/01/2013 08:43, Boris Samorodov wrote: 13.01.2013 20:22, Chris Rees пишет: Pkgng is also part of the ports tree nowadays, and portmanager must support it. The old pkg_install suite will be removed soon. Portmanager needs fixing! That threaten me a bit. Will pkg_install be removed soon

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:11:18 +1100 Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2013-Jan-13 19:25:42 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Aside from pkgng what changes do do you think it needs? Without pkgng support, how will portmanager interrogate the system to determine what ports are installed and/or

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-13 Thread RW
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:57:16 -0600 Bryan Drewery wrote: On 1/12/2013 6:07 AM, RW wrote: Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions, and does not support pkgng. Consider using ports-mgmt/portmaster, ports-mgmt/portupgrade or

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 13.01.2013 17:02, schrieb RW: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:57:16 -0600 Bryan Drewery wrote: On 1/12/2013 6:07 AM, RW wrote: Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions, and does not support pkgng. Consider using

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 Jan 2013 16:02, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:57:16 -0600 Bryan Drewery wrote: On 1/12/2013 6:07 AM, RW wrote: Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions, and does not support pkgng.

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-13 Thread RW
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:17:40 +0100 Matthias Andree wrote: Am 13.01.2013 17:02, schrieb RW: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:57:16 -0600 Bryan Drewery wrote: On 1/12/2013 6:07 AM, RW wrote: Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions,

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-13 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2013-Jan-13 19:25:42 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Aside from pkgng what changes do do you think it needs? Without pkgng support, how will portmanager interrogate the system to determine what ports are installed and/or need updating? How long is it since anyone did any

Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-12 Thread RW
Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions, and does not support pkgng. Consider using ports-mgmt/portmaster, ports-mgmt/portupgrade or pkgng. These seem more like bogus excuses than reasons. Portmanager doesn't need MOVED, and

Re: Removal of Portmanager

2013-01-12 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 1/12/2013 6:07 AM, RW wrote: Does not support modern ports features such as MOVED, is lacking upstream and active contributions, and does not support pkgng. Consider using ports-mgmt/portmaster, ports-mgmt/portupgrade or pkgng. These seem more like bogus excuses than reasons.