Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I expected to hear some voices about
certain ideas that have popped up, like:
* can we cut off old and 'unloved' PR's in order to reduce the amount of
work and make reassessment of that amount
* can we use people who volunteered to work on the PR's
* can we
Hi!
Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I expected to hear some voices about
certain ideas that have popped up, like:
* can we cut off old and 'unloved' PR's in order to reduce the amount of
work and make reassessment of that amount
There is the other view of this which says PRs do not
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote:
Hi!
Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I expected to hear some voices about
certain ideas that have popped up, like:
* can we cut off old and 'unloved' PR's in order to reduce the amount of
work and make
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Apesteguía
fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote:
Hi!
Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I expected to hear some voices about
certain ideas that have popped up, like:
* can we
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Bernhard Fröhlich de...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Apesteguía
fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote:
Hi!
Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I
Hi,
Just a little stick in this anthill:
- I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
to be: oh, yeah, well, ah, cool. I'd expect, with all the talk about
how much they are needed, that they will be snatched immediately and
coerced into doing unspeakable things (like
On 1/28/14, 10:04 AM, Daniel Siechniewicz wrote:
Hi,
Just a little stick in this anthill:
- I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
to be: oh, yeah, well, ah, cool. I'd expect, with all the talk about
how much they are needed, that they will be snatched immediately
El 28/01/2014 16:04, Daniel Siechniewicz dan...@nulldowntime.com
escribió:
Hi,
Just a little stick in this anthill:
- I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
to be: oh, yeah, well, ah, cool. I'd expect, with all the talk about
how much they are needed, that they
There have been some messages in this thread about users volunteering to check
port PRs.
What would this involve as to time and software setup on one's own computer?
I have some limited time, but am not using poudriere.
I don't want to be too disruptive to existing FreeBSD installation.
With
Hi!
There have been some messages in this thread about users volunteering
to check port PRs.
What would this involve as to time and software setup on one's own computer?
I use the following workflow:
1)
daily update to the /usr/ports tree using
cd /usr/ports
svn --non-interactive
Am 2014-01-25 05:30, schrieb Aryeh Friedman:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Alfred Perlstein
alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that
makes
this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
Nice to be able to plug something other
Sorry was just putting why I used the mentioned ports in context (I believe
in real life examples instead of made up ones for that)... any other
mention of it in the thread was only because it was a convenient example
that didn't violate an nda or something else.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:29
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On 25/01/2014 10:35, Big Lebowski wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing
basis,
my guess is that would be
that but we get emotionally attached to
technologies that are old, dying and dead when off the shelf stuff works
just fine.
I've read all 60 or so messages in this thread and there really are two
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with ports PR
On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.orgwrote:
Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something only
if we have 20-50 people looking at 6-15 PR's a week, and we cant do
anything if we dont? Cant we start
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote:
On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org
wrote:
Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something
only
if we have 20-50 people
On 26/01/2014 13:32, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote:
Suspect this would work, however, the more committers the less the quality
of work?
Is there any evidence to support that argument? Or is it just a fear of
that? At any point if
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote:
On 26/01/2014 13:32, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote:
Suspect this would work, however, the more committers the less the
quality
of work?
Is there any
On 26/01/2014 14:05, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote:
At no point I've suggested anything regarding portmgr team, and I am not in
position to judge needs of any changes in that place. It seems however,
that with the portsmgr-lurker
is the problem with ports PR reaction
delays?. This has meandered into a philosophical debate about who
knows what and who knows squat about version control systems,
whether we need to maintain certain requirements, testing ports, etc.
I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled
just fine.
I've read all 60 or so messages in this thread and there really are two
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?.
This has meandered into a philosophical debate about who knows what and who
knows squat about version
is What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?.
This has meandered into a philosophical debate about who knows what and who
knows squat about version control systems, whether we need to maintain
certain requirements, testing ports, etc.
I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled
On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote:
Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something
only if we have 20-50 people looking at 6-15 PR's a week, and we cant do
anything if we dont? Cant we start with 2-3 people (3 people so far
volunteered to do so, and I belive a
to
technologies that are old, dying and dead when off the shelf stuff
works
just fine.
I've read all 60 or so messages in this thread and there really are
two
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with ports PR reaction
delays?.
This has meandered
just fine.
I've read all 60 or so messages in this thread and there really
are two
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with ports PR reaction
delays?.
This has meandered into a philosophical debate about who knows what
and who
knows squat about version
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:01:16PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 4:05 PM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO
But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and
they don't
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:04:52PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with
ports PR reaction delays?.
This has meandered into a philosophical debate
about who knows what and who
knows
On 26 January 2014 18:34, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:30 AM
Subject: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
To: freebsd-ports freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
To: freebsd-ports freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what
is the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is
only growing, not shrinking
On 01/25/2014 11:38, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
We just recovered from cvs-svn switch I think noone at all is willing to do the
job again.
Git has lots of drawbacks and if badly handled with all the above, it will be a
real nightmare.
and That is said from someone who likes git (except that the
)
If aegis is so much better then we should use it. Or everyone should use
it... but why isn't everyone using it?
Simple reason Peter Miller (the author of aegis/cook) for whatever reason
*NEVER* tried to market his stuff while GIT made a specific effort of
attempting to get outside users.
On 1/26/14, 6:43 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
)
If aegis is so much better then we should use it. Or everyone should use
it... but why isn't everyone using it?
Simple reason Peter Miller (the author of aegis/cook) for whatever reason
*NEVER* tried to market his stuff while GIT made a
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
I'm not addicted to newness. I think you just hate anything that is
popular and you're butthurt that something that's may have been ahead of
it's time was missed out on. This is no reason to dig your heels in and
On 1/26/14 9:02 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.org
mailto:alf...@freebsd.org wrote:
When your toy has a huge community that fulfills the requirements
that I have I'll check it out. When switching to Aegis gets
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov to see if I can
order myself some free aspirin after this discussion.
At least my build system has never caused me to need an aspirin (normal
debugging is bad
On 1/26/14, 10:56 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.org
mailto:alf...@freebsd.org wrote:
I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov
http://healthcare.gov to see if I can order myself some free
aspirin after
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On 1/26/14, 10:56 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov to see if I can
order myself some free
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that
makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality is based on
git which is open. One only needs to invoke 3-4
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes
this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis,
my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that
makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality is based
on git which is
On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis,
my guess is that
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:47 AM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.stwrote:
On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote:
I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized
around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that
people who can make decisions
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an
On 25/01/2014 10:35, Big Lebowski wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis,
my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way to set
that up. It would definitely
Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com:
I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization list
very closely, and the matter I've touched here is not my doubt on which
technology I should use, but rather a complaint on the state of jails
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.atwrote:
Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com:
I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization
list
very closely, and the matter I've touched here is not my doubt on
Am 25.01.2014 13:35 schrieb Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at
wrote:
Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com:
I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization
On 1/25/14, 1:14 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you
really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn.
Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It
would never be done in an official capacity. Git is not an official
tool of FreeBSD.
From what I'm reading you may know
By the way, this wasn't about switching to git (although that would be
nice), this is about leveraging existing tools.
One can very easily use git-svn bridge to push git changes into
subversion. Or you can try to re-implement a patch queue based system
yourself using a bunch of duct tape and
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn.
Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It
would never be done in an official capacity. Git is not an official
tool of
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/24/14, 4:47 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote:
I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized
around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that
makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
github itself
Making proper merge from github pull request it not that easy, you will
need to
fetch pull request as custom branches and cherry-pick them. That is really
not
convenient.
devel/tailor was designed specifically for this case (the actual case it
does is aegis --- svn) but same basic idea
--
-- Forwarded message --
From: Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
To: John Marino dragonfly...@marino.st
You are solving the wrong problem.
And nobody is reinventing
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:11:24AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 1:14 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn.
Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It
would
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:53:41PM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
Making proper merge from github pull request it not that easy, you will
need to
fetch pull request as custom branches and cherry-pick them. That is really
not
convenient.
devel/tailor was designed specifically for this
On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything.
Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface for merging PRs like
for instance github?
Could ports take PRs in the
On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that
makes this all as easy github, but
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn.
Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything.
Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Still missing the point.
On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred
On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything.
Does the
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:51AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25,
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:06:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
(maybe there is some great ports
On 1/25/14 11:52 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred
On 01/24/2014 05:30 PM, Big Lebowski wrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is only
growing, not shrinking, and there's no formal/automated procedures that
would help
Alfred Perlstein wrote on 25.01.2014 22:41:
Are any of these tools available on the other side?
Ie, for port submitters?
yes porttools for example, or some scripts inside Tools/scripts
regards,
Bapt
Is there a primer on using these tools?
/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/getpatch category/PR
--
On 01/25/2014 05:43, Bernhard Fröhlich wrote:
With the scripts it should be possible to fetch the patch of a PR, apply
and commit it to your redports repository and do additional changes until
you are okay with it. What is still missing is a script that helps
committing the changes to the
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/25/2014 05:43, Bernhard Fröhlich wrote:
With the scripts it should be possible to fetch the patch of a PR, apply
and commit it to your redports repository and do additional changes until
you are okay with it. What is still
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want
to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything
that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can look
at what is interesting
Yes.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want
to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything
that can be automated is sure help free
On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO
But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and
they don't seem to complain.
How is our ports different in this respect?
Yuri
On 1/25/14 4:05 PM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO
But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and
they don't seem to complain.
How is our ports different in this respect?
I
On 1/25/14 3:41 PM, Yuri wrote:
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really
want
to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating
everything
that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can
On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want
to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really
I never said our selves it is outsourced to the developer/maintainer with
100% automated stuff... once I am doing with the next small version of
petitecloud I will post the 6 line script we use to test the port
(including cranking up a few vm's)... have fun doing that anywhere else
Got bored
the shelf stuff works
just fine.
I've read all 60 or so messages in this thread and there really are two
related but distinct issues here.
The thread title is What is the problem with ports PR reaction
delays?. This has meandered into a philosophical debate about who knows
what and who knows squat
I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled down to those two
issues, one of which is a symptom of the other. Arguing and debating over a
long term solution to the OP's question does nothing to solve the problem
in the short to intermediate term. There are 1680 current ports related
Hello,
On 1/25/14, 10:33 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled down to those
two issues, one of which is a symptom of the other. Arguing and
debating over a long term solution to the OP's question does nothing
to solve the problem in the
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is only
growing, not shrinking, and there's no formal/automated procedures that
would help in managing the issue.
Today I found myself
On 1/25/2014 00:30, Big Lebowski wrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is only
growing, not shrinking, and there's no formal/automated procedures that
would help in
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is only
growing, not shrinking, and there's no
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Aryeh Friedman
aryeh.fried...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:41 AM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.stwrote:
On 1/25/2014 00:30, Big Lebowski wrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what
is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is
only
On 1/25/2014 01:03, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:41 AM, John Marino
freebsd.cont...@marino.stwrote:
On 1/25/2014 00:30, Big Lebowski wrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what
is
the problem? It seems to me, as a ports
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:22 AM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.stwrote:
On 1/25/2014 01:03, Big Lebowski wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:41 AM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.st
wrote:
On 1/25/2014 00:30, Big Lebowski wrote:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask about the growing
On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote:
I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized
around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that
people who can make decisions and changes would notice it and consider
them, since as they say, the squeeky
I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization list
very closely, and the matter I've touched here is not my doubt on which
technology I should use, but rather a complaint on the state of jails
related tools directly leading to the delays in handling of ports related
I would be willing to help write some scripts to start/stop the VM's
(PetiteCloud does a command line that will be better documented and such in
the next version or two)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Aryeh
On 25 Jan 2014, at 00:47, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.st wrote:
On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote:
I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized
around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that
people who can make decisions and
On 1/24/14, 4:47 PM, John Marino wrote:
On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote:
I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized
around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that
people who can make decisions and changes would notice it and consider
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