Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:48:00PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >Michel Talon wrote: >> Since the compilation will take most of the >> time, it is not relevant to consider performance questions on the >> portmaster side. > >Having spent a substantial amount of time doing performance tuning on >portmas

SoC Project: Ports 2.0 engine

2008-03-20 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
School ate any free time I had to work on ports 2.0. For this reason I would like to find some way to make it a Summer of Code project. Kip Macy has provisionally agreed to mentor it if a) it is approved by Google and FreeBSD, b) No one more qualified steps forward. Project goals (SoC porti

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Pav Lucistnik wrote: Kris Kennaway píše v čt 20. 03. 2008 v 23:51 +0100: A user pointed out to me that on the project ideas page the following entry remains: Write a new utility for the pkg_install suite, possibly named pkg_upgrade(1), implementing a subset of existing portupgrade functiona

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Kris Kennaway píše v čt 20. 03. 2008 v 23:51 +0100: > > A user pointed out to me that on the project ideas page the following > > entry remains: > > > > Write a new utility for the pkg_install suite, possibly named > > pkg_upgrade(1), implementing a subset of existing portupgrade > > functiona

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Doug Barton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 A user pointed out to me that on the project ideas page the following entry remains: Write a new utility for the pkg_install suite, possibly named pkg_upgrade(1), implementing a subset of existing portupgrade functionali

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Doug Barton píše v čt 20. 03. 2008 v 13:12 -0700: > Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > Doug Barton píše v c(t 20. 03. 2008 v 01:05 -0700: > >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: > >> > >>> i would venture to say that such an utility > >>> should be able to upgrade things based of *binary* packages, and

ports/121370

2008-03-20 Thread Steven Kreuzer
Can you take a look at that patch and commit it. The PR is 3 weeks old. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/121370 Many Thanks -- Steven Kreuzer http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.fr

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:12:06PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > Fair enough, but can we please come quickly to a consensus on what > _all_ of the requirements should be? Two things I'd like to avoid. One > is the feeling that no matter how many hoops I jump through, there is > always going to be

Re: Two questions about upgrade problems with portmaster

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Peter Olsson wrote: > TMPDIR doesn't seem to be set at all, I don't have it in "set". > Shell is bash. Ok. > Here is /etc/make.conf if that is relevant: > WITHOUT_X11=yes > WITHOUT_GUI=yes I would try commenting these two out and see what happens. > # added by use.perl 2008-01-13 14:50:56 > PE

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Doug Barton píše v c(t 20. 03. 2008 v 01:05 -0700: >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: >> >>> i would venture to say that such an utility >>> should be able to upgrade things based of *binary* packages, and >>> consequently that portmaster is not a suitable candidate.

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Sean C. Farley wrote: >BTW, I think the +IGNOREME files for portmaster should be >in /var/db/ports, so they may traverse a manual pkg_delete && make >install. I'm ambivalent about that, since the way I personally tend to use +IGNOREME is to avoid dealing with something till I'm ready t

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Sean C. Farley wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: >> >>> In my opinion, an example of a correct "pkg_upgrade" type programm >>> written in C++ is the Debian apt-get. It works predictably, fast, >>> etc. One of its features, that i consid

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
David Wolfskill wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:05:27AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> ... >>> One of the >>> requirements of an upgrade system is predictability, this can only >>> be achieved by using binary packages. >> You gain a certain amount of flexibility with packages, at the expense of

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Michel Talon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:05:27AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: >> >>> Doug Barton wrote: >>> i would venture to say that such an utility >>> should be able to upgrade things based of *binary* packages, and >>> consequently that portmas

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Poland
Ivan Voras wrote: On 20/03/2008, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: >> * Ivan Voras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>> Is there a utility that would do that, and if not, does anyone have the >>> time to

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Jeremy Lea
Hi, On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:05:27AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Now all that said, I'd love to see us move to a much more robust package > management system, or even just a better interface to the one we have. The > problem is that I don't have the time to do that as a volunteer project, > a

Re: Installing a shell script

2008-03-20 Thread Wesley Shields
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 02:51:45PM -0400, Steven Kreuzer wrote: > Greetings- > > I am in the process of updating a port to the latest version (dns/dnsperf) > and I ran into an issue I was able to work around but I want to see if > there is a nicer way to do it. > > One of the differences between

Installing a shell script

2008-03-20 Thread Steven Kreuzer
Greetings- I am in the process of updating a port to the latest version (dns/dnsperf) and I ran into an issue I was able to work around but I want to see if there is a nicer way to do it. One of the differences between the version in ports and the current version is the addition of a shell script

Re: FreeBSD Port: tcl-threads-8.5.1

2008-03-20 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Gerald W. Lester píše v čt 20. 03. 2008 v 08:43 -0500: > How come there is a tcl8.4 entry on the sections pull down but no 8.5 > entries? The versioned tcl/tk categories are going away soon. In the new order, everything will be just tcl or tk. -- Pav Lucistnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Doug Barton píše v čt 20. 03. 2008 v 01:05 -0700: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: > > > i would venture to say that such an utility > > should be able to upgrade things based of *binary* packages, and > > consequently that portmaster is not a suitable candidate. > > That ability is not

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Julian Elischer
Peter Pentchev wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: The purpose is similar - creating jails out of host system in fast and easy way, possibility to strip everything unneeded (useful for secure minimal jails or flash/livecd/embedded installations of minimal

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Ivan Voras
On 20/03/2008, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Pentchev wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > >> * Ivan Voras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >>> Is there a utility that would do that, and if not, does anyone have the > >>> time to write one?

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:34:38PM +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: > > Yes, I've had great impressions by the debian's apt- tools. But it seems > that the debian package servers maintain an index or something for all > the packages. And if you want to upgrade or install a certain package, > you just fe

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Poland
Peter Pentchev wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: * Ivan Voras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a utility that would do that, and if not, does anyone have the time to write one? >> Would this not be an appropriate use for packages? If one creates a pa

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > * Ivan Voras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Is there a utility that would do that, and if not, does anyone have the > > time to write one? > > Actually, I've already had an idea of utility with pretty similar > functionality for a

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:23:23 -0700 David Wolfskill wrote: > I would prefer to do something similar for ports: build my own > packages on that machine, then be able to use my preferred port > management tool to run through the list of installed ports on (say) > my firewall box, and have it fetch t

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Sean C. Farley
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Doug Barton wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: In my opinion, an example of a correct "pkg_upgrade" type programm written in C++ is the Debian apt-get. It works predictably, fast, etc. One of its features, that i consider very important for correct operation,

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Sean C. Farley
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 05:59:28PM +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Actually I don't think a batch download and install process would help much, especially for a freshly installed system because it might be a huge down

unbreak emulators/doscmd

2008-03-20 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Hi Des, I have a patch to unbreak emulators/doscmd on >= 80, would you mind to have a look at it? http://people.freebsd.org/~gahr/doscmd.diff Thanks, Best Regards -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

portupgrade with -o doesn't apply any make flags

2008-03-20 Thread Naram Qashat
I've noticed that with the current (non-devel) version of portupgrade, when I was doing a replacement with -o specified, none of the make flags from pkgtools.conf were being applied like they normally are when I do a normal upgrade or an install. I haven't had a chance to test portupgrade-devel

FreeBSD Port: tcl-threads-8.5.1

2008-03-20 Thread Gerald W. Lester
How come there is a tcl8.4 entry on the sections pull down but no 8.5 entries? Also, is there a ports package for TkThread and Tdom (I'm looking for the "same" package set that ActiveState has on their supported platforms)? Lastly, any thoughts on a tclkit/basekit for FreeBSD? Thanks in adva

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Denise H. G.
Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 05:59:28PM +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: >> Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Actually I don't think a batch download and install process would help >> much, especially for a freshly installed system because it might be

Re: PLIST=pkg-plist

2008-03-20 Thread Anatoly Borodin
Hi! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you please try this without your settings in make.conf (empty > make.conf, or at least the smallest possible make.conf you can use)? I've found that make.conf is irrelevant, but some other thing matters #

Re: libnjb pkg-plist incorrect?

2008-03-20 Thread Pietro Cerutti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: | %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/libnjb-%%PORTVERSION%%/html/dir_d03f56ed3ef2c0e11ac283c787a57d7a.html | | is in pkg-plist of libnjb, but I got this file: | dir_517a6f2c7427bc36231829858e370602.html | | Therefore package creation

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 05:59:28PM +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: > Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Actually I don't think a batch download and install process would help > much, especially for a freshly installed system because it might be a > huge download job and much waiting time if o

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Sticky Bit
The real question is: ports or packages? Please do not mix them together! If we are talking about ports and ports updating then portmaster is (now) an excellent candidate for this job and I vote for portmaster. If we are talking about packages and package management then portmaster and all othe

libnjb pkg-plist incorrect?

2008-03-20 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester
%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/libnjb-%%PORTVERSION%%/html/dir_d03f56ed3ef2c0e11ac283c787a57d7a.html is in pkg-plist of libnjb, but I got this file: dir_517a6f2c7427bc36231829858e370602.html Therefore package creation fails. Does this weird filename have something to do with my configuration? Is pkg-

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread David Wolfskill
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:05:27AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > ... > >One of the > >requirements of an upgrade system is predictability, this can only > >be achieved by using binary packages. > > You gain a certain amount of flexibility with packages, at the expense of > being able to customize t

Re: updating devel/directfb

2008-03-20 Thread Anatoly Borodin
Hi! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Thank you for this patch, but I need 1.1.1 version (I use some > | features released here), so I merged you patch with mine. The result > | is http://fractalizator.googlepages.com/directfb-0.9.16-1.1.1.patch.txt

Re: updating devel/directfb

2008-03-20 Thread Pietro Cerutti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Anatoly Borodin wrote: | Thank you for this patch, but I need 1.1.1 version (I use some | features released here), so I merged you patch with mine. The result | is http://fractalizator.googlepages.com/directfb-0.9.16-1.1.1.patch.txt Hi back, the p

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Denise H. G.
Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doug Barton wrote: >> So, I renew my inquiry. :) Is portmaster a suitable candidate to fulfill >> the role of the utility described, and if not, why not? > > At the risk of being flamed, i would venture to say that such an utility > should be able to upg

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Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:05:27AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: > > >Doug Barton wrote: > >i would venture to say that such an utility > >should be able to upgrade things based of *binary* packages, and > >consequently that portmaster is not a suitable candi

Re: PLIST=pkg-plist

2008-03-20 Thread Anatoly Borodin
Hi! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > # less /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc6-6_5/+CONTENTS > > @comment PKG_FORMAT_REVISION:1.1 > > @name linux_base-fc6-6_5 > > @comment ORIGIN:emulators/linux_base-fc6 > > @cwd /compat/linux > > @conflicts linux_b

Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Michel Talon wrote: Doug Barton wrote: So, I renew my inquiry. :) Is portmaster a suitable candidate to fulfill the role of the utility described, and if not, why not? At the risk of being flamed, I certainly hope not. :) i would venture to say that such an utility sh

Re: PLIST=pkg-plist

2008-03-20 Thread Anatoly Borodin
Hi! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # less /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc6-6_5/+CONTENTS > > @comment PKG_FORMAT_REVISION:1.1 > > @name linux_base-fc6-6_5 > > @comment ORIGIN:emulators/linux_base-fc6 > > @cwd /compat/linux > > @conflicts linux_base

Re: FreeBSD Port: x11/xautolock

2008-03-20 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:42:33 +0100 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Stefan Thurner wrote: > | On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:43:06PM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > |> Hash: SHA512 > |> > |> Stefan