Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 25/01/2014 10:35, Big Lebowski wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, my guess is that would be

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Jim Ohlstein j...@ohlste.in wrote: Hello, On 1/25/14, 9:04 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Gary J. Hayers
On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.orgwrote: Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something only if we have 20-50 people looking at 6-15 PR's a week, and we cant do anything if we dont? Cant we start

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote: On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something only if we have 20-50 people

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Gary J. Hayers
On 26/01/2014 13:32, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote: Suspect this would work, however, the more committers the less the quality of work? Is there any evidence to support that argument? Or is it just a fear of that? At any point if

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote: On 26/01/2014 13:32, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote: Suspect this would work, however, the more committers the less the quality of work? Is there any

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Gary J. Hayers
On 26/01/2014 14:05, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Gary J. Hayers g...@hayers.org wrote: At no point I've suggested anything regarding portmgr team, and I am not in position to judge needs of any changes in that place. It seems however, that with the portsmgr-lurker

Spyder IDE port

2014-01-26 Thread Rod Person
Hey All, I'm working on a port of Spyder IDE for python...before I completed it I wanted to no one was also working on the same port. -- Rod How do u know they didn't run place at they that? -- Herb ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14 5:25 AM, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Jim Ohlstein j...@ohlste.in mailto:j...@ohlste.in wrote: Hello, On 1/25/14, 9:04 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM,

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
just do us a favor and do not assume newer means better... On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 1/26/14 5:25 AM, Big Lebowski wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Jim Ohlstein j...@ohlste.in wrote: Hello, On 1/25/14, 9:04 PM, Alfred

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14 10:21 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: just do us a favor and do not assume newer means better... I've been using newer almost exclusively for the past several years and it is better. Open your eyes, people have moved on. -Alfred On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Alfred Perlstein

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/01/2014 13:06, Big Lebowski wrote: Does it have to be all-or-nothing situation, where we can do something only if we have 20-50 people looking at 6-15 PR's a week, and we cant do anything if we dont? Cant we start with 2-3 people (3 people so far volunteered to do so, and I belive a

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
If it is so new then why when I looked into git and git hub for the first time about 2 years ago it didn't have a *SINGLE* feature that aegis didn't have in the mid-90's... all it is a bunch or pretty pictures to make those who are addicted to newness be able to claim they are actually making

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Forgot to mention and aegis in almost every case implements the very same features in a much smoother way (no stupid http bs or anything) On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.comwrote: If it is so new then why when I looked into git and git hub for the first

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:01:16PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 4:05 PM, Yuri wrote: On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and they don't

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:04:52PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14 10:32 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Forgot to mention and aegis in almost every case implements the very same features in a much smoother way (no stupid http bs or anything) If aegis is so much better then we should use it. Or everyone should use it... but why isn't everyone using

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Pawel Biernacki
On 26 January 2014 18:34, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:30 AM Subject: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? To: freebsd-ports freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Fernando ApesteguĂ­a
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Pawel Biernacki pawel.bierna...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 January 2014 18:34, Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:30 AM Subject:

STAGE and INFO

2014-01-26 Thread Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
I am trying to implement staging on the port graphics/plotutils. Right now it has the following line in Makefile: INFO= libxmi plotutils When I do make stage; make check-orphans I get info/dir Is this something I need to worry about? ___

Re: STAGE and INFO

2014-01-26 Thread Antoine Brodin
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen step...@missouri.edu wrote: I am trying to implement staging on the port graphics/plotutils. Right now it has the following line in Makefile: INFO= libxmi plotutils When I do make stage; make check-orphans I get info/dir

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Yuri
On 01/25/2014 11:38, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: We just recovered from cvs-svn switch I think noone at all is willing to do the job again. Git has lots of drawbacks and if badly handled with all the above, it will be a real nightmare. and That is said from someone who likes git (except that the

Questions about staging

2014-01-26 Thread Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
I am looking at this part of https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir Replace commands like ${CHMOD} ... and ${INSTALL_PROGRAM} -m mode -o user -g group with corresponding pkg-plist entries: @mode mode, @owner user, @group group. /!\ These operators work until being overridden, or until the end of

[QAT] r341265: 4x leftovers

2014-01-26 Thread Ports-QAT
- Add stage support - Do not install non-existant vboxvideo.ko.symbols when DEBUG is selected Reviewed by:vbox@ (decke) - Build ID: 20140126195400-36495 Job owner: r...@freebsd.org Buildtime: 5

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
) If aegis is so much better then we should use it. Or everyone should use it... but why isn't everyone using it? Simple reason Peter Miller (the author of aegis/cook) for whatever reason *NEVER* tried to market his stuff while GIT made a specific effort of attempting to get outside users.

[QAT] r341288: 4x leftovers

2014-01-26 Thread Ports-QAT
- Implement staging. - Build ID: 20140126211800-20871 Job owner: step...@freebsd.org Buildtime: 5 hours Enddate: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:44:38 GMT Revision: r341288 Repository:

Re: libstdc++.so.6 in base 9.2 system collides with libstdc++.so.6 in gcc47

2014-01-26 Thread Yuri
On 01/20/2014 03:13, John Marino wrote: The approach taken by lang/gcc-aux mirrors your sentiment in the PRs. The rpath is inserted by the compiler itself, automatically, for every program and shared object produced. The individual ports would not need to set rpath themselves if they were built

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14, 6:43 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: ) If aegis is so much better then we should use it. Or everyone should use it... but why isn't everyone using it? Simple reason Peter Miller (the author of aegis/cook) for whatever reason *NEVER* tried to market his stuff while GIT made a

[QAT] r341289: 4x leftovers, 4x new_compiler_error, 20x success

2014-01-26 Thread Ports-QAT
- Update libraw to 0.15.4. This update is needed for further KDE updates. - Use the new OPTIONS syntax. - Use the new LIB_DEPENDS syntax. - Stop redefining do-install; the port has its own `make install' that does the same thing provided we use USES=pathfix and tune Makefile.in. - Support

Re: devel/py-mercurialserver broken by last commit

2014-01-26 Thread Anton Afanasyev
I've run into this problem too. Michael, while I haven't tried your patch yet, I'm curious to know why you added the extra line to post-install? I couldn't find any place where a similar one may have been removed, so just interested to know why it needed to be added. You may also want to submit a

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm not addicted to newness. I think you just hate anything that is popular and you're butthurt that something that's may have been ahead of it's time was missed out on. This is no reason to dig your heels in and

Re: net/avahi-app core dumps signal 11

2014-01-26 Thread Robert Burmeister
Have the same problem... BUT on test machine (updated from 9.2-REL) it works perfectly but when updated working machine (from 9.2-REL too) to 10.0 it started to segfault! Now I end up with test machine with working avahi and production server which is can't run it Thank you... You notice

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14 9:02 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.org mailto:alf...@freebsd.org wrote: When your toy has a huge community that fulfills the requirements that I have I'll check it out. When switching to Aegis gets

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov to see if I can order myself some free aspirin after this discussion. At least my build system has never caused me to need an aspirin (normal debugging is bad

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/26/14, 10:56 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.org mailto:alf...@freebsd.org wrote: I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov http://healthcare.gov to see if I can order myself some free aspirin after

Re: Questions about staging

2014-01-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 27/01/2014 00:38, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote: I am looking at this part of https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir Replace commands like ${CHMOD} ... and ${INSTALL_PROGRAM} -m mode -o user -g group with corresponding pkg-plist entries: @mode mode, @owner user, @group group. /!\

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-26 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 1/26/14, 10:56 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm not sure, I'm going to go load up healthcare.gov to see if I can order myself some free