portmaster new development

[Thomas Mueller]

> > And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning deprecation of

> > portmaster too?

> No, I'm actively working on portmaster and have rewritten it from
> scratch for better performance (and additional features, e.g. building
> in a clean chroot jail, similar to synth or poudriere).

> I have been using that version for more than one year, but the
> functionality is not complete, yet.

> On a test system with > 2200 installed ports it takes less than 10
> seconds to identify the ~600 out-of-date ports (that I keep in this
> state for testing of the upgrade strategy function), which is more
> than 30 times faster than the same operation with the "official"
> portmaster.

> Until completion of that version, I'll continue to maintain and
> update the current portmaster port ...

> Regards, STefan

Question about the relation of portsnap and portmaster reminds me of Java and 
Javascript, or potato and sweet potato (not closely related).

Since my question is about a new portmaster, I rename the subject to 
"portmaster" or "portmaster new development", rather than hijack the "portsnap" 
thread.

Which portmaster do I get if I build and install what is currently in the ports 
tree?

amelia2# ls -l ports-mgmt/portmaster
total 16
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1479 Dec 27 02:01 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   184 Feb 28  2018 distinfo
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Dec 27 02:01 files
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1189 May  6  2019 pkg-descr

from a fresh svn up of the ports tree.

An improved portmaster arouses my interest.  Maybe modify the name so it can be 
added to the ports tree and coexist with the "official" portmaster.

Desired features/options would be to keep going rather than stop when one port 
fails to build, and the ability to install build dependencies, which may be 
useful for building other software.

With synth, I had a difficult time getting everything that was built to 
install, some packages like bison are needed in building other software.

How is poudriere in that regard?  I never used poudriere, have been intimidated 
by not wanting to use zfs or dialog4ports, or such an elaborate setup just to 
update one or a few ports.

Gentoo Linux with portage has "--with-bdeps=y" which installs build 
dependencies when desired.

I found that poudriere uses dialog4ports; I much prefer to save options in a 
file such as Gentoo Linux does with make.conf and (NetBSD) pkgsrc does with 
mk.conf .

I once got a royal mess of circular/jumbled dependencies with dialog4ports; 
cleaning was a major nuisance, nothing simple like editing /etc/mk.conf or 
/etc/make.conf .

I would like to be free of dialog4ports; the older dialog was worse and messed 
up my screen.

Tom

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FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

[portscout]

Dear port maintainer,

The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your
ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check
each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate,
submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can
safely ignore the entry.

You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations
below.

Full details can be found at the following URL:
http://portscout.freebsd.org/po...@freebsd.org.html


Port| Current version | New version
+-+
finance/moneymanagerex  | 1.2.7   | v1.3.6
+-+


If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page
for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of
distfiles on a per-port basis:

http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt

Reported by:portscout!
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Re: portsnap

[Michael Schuster]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 20:04 LuMiWa via freebsd-ports <
freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:51:37 +0100
> Stefan Esser  wrote:
>
> > Am 26.12.20 um 18:41 schrieb LuMiWa via freebsd-ports:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Today I red again an email:
> > >
> > > Subject:[HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap
> > > From:   Steve Wills 
> > > Date:   2020-08-04 18:43:20
> > >
> > > And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning
> > > deprecation of portmaster too?
> >
> > No, I'm actively working on portmaster and have rewritten it from
> > scratch for better performance (and additional features, e.g. building
> > in a clean chroot jail, similar to synth or poudriere).
> >
> > I have been using that version for more than one year, but the
> > functionality is not complete, yet.
> >
> > On a test system with > 2200 installed ports it takes less than 10
> > seconds to identify the ~600 out-of-date ports (that I keep in this
> > state for testing of the upgrade strategy function), which is more
> > than 30 times faster than the same operation with the "official"
> > portmaster.
> >
> > Until completion of that version, I'll continue to maintain and
> > update the current portmaster port ...
> >
> > Regards, STefan
> >
>
> ...and I will continue to use portmaster. But I don't understand why
> we should no keep portsnap.
>

IIRC, there was an email a while ago announcing the discontinuation of
portsnap and explaining the reasoning behind this move.

Regards
Michael


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Re: portsnap

[LuMiWa via freebsd-ports]

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:51:37 +0100
Stefan Esser  wrote:

> Am 26.12.20 um 18:41 schrieb LuMiWa via freebsd-ports:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Today I red again an email:
> > 
> > Subject:[HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap
> > From:   Steve Wills 
> > Date:   2020-08-04 18:43:20
> > 
> > And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning
> > deprecation of portmaster too?
> 
> No, I'm actively working on portmaster and have rewritten it from
> scratch for better performance (and additional features, e.g. building
> in a clean chroot jail, similar to synth or poudriere).
> 
> I have been using that version for more than one year, but the
> functionality is not complete, yet.
> 
> On a test system with > 2200 installed ports it takes less than 10
> seconds to identify the ~600 out-of-date ports (that I keep in this
> state for testing of the upgrade strategy function), which is more
> than 30 times faster than the same operation with the "official"
> portmaster.
> 
> Until completion of that version, I'll continue to maintain and
> update the current portmaster port ...
> 
> Regards, STefan
> 

...and I will continue to use portmaster. But I don't understand why
we should no keep portsnap.

-- 
“Waiter! A cup of coffee without cream, please! 
I’m sorry, sir, we have no cream, only milk, so can it be a coffee
without milk?” 

― Ernst Lubitsch’s Ninotchka
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Re: portsnap

[Stefan Esser]

Am 26.12.20 um 18:41 schrieb LuMiWa via freebsd-ports:

Hi!

Today I red again an email:

Subject:[HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap
From:   Steve Wills 
Date:   2020-08-04 18:43:20

And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning deprecation of
portmaster too?


No, I'm actively working on portmaster and have rewritten it from
scratch for better performance (and additional features, e.g. building
in a clean chroot jail, similar to synth or poudriere).

I have been using that version for more than one year, but the
functionality is not complete, yet.

On a test system with > 2200 installed ports it takes less than 10
seconds to identify the ~600 out-of-date ports (that I keep in this
state for testing of the upgrade strategy function), which is more
than 30 times faster than the same operation with the "official"
portmaster.

Until completion of that version, I'll continue to maintain and
update the current portmaster port ...

Regards, STefan



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Re: portsnap

[Kevin Oberman]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM LuMiWa via freebsd-ports <
freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Today I red again an email:
>
> Subject:[HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap
> From:   Steve Wills 
> Date:   2020-08-04 18:43:20
>
> And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning deprecation of
> portmaster too?
>
> Thank you.
> --
> “Waiter! A cup of coffee without cream, please!
> I’m sorry, sir, we have no cream, only milk, so can it be a coffee
> without milk?”
>
> ― Ernst Lubitsch’s Ninotchka


I'm confused. other than dealing with ports, I don't see any relation. One
is a tool to update the ports tree on a system and the other is a tool to
install or update installed ports, regardless of how the tree was updated.
There are other non-deprecated ports that will continue to  perform both
functions.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
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portsnap

[LuMiWa via freebsd-ports]

Hi!

Today I red again an email:

Subject:[HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap
From:   Steve Wills 
Date:   2020-08-04 18:43:20

And as portsnap user I have a question: Do they planning deprecation of
portmaster too?

Thank you.
-- 
“Waiter! A cup of coffee without cream, please! 
I’m sorry, sir, we have no cream, only milk, so can it be a coffee
without milk?” 

― Ernst Lubitsch’s Ninotchka
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Re: Need a commiter

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Could a commiter take a look at PR251982

Done.

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Need a commiter

[Nuno Teixeira]

Hello,

Could a commiter take a look at PR251982
 ?

Thanks,

Nuno Teixeira
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