Re: Circular dependency in devel/doxygen?

2011-09-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:09:57AM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote:
 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:09:57 -0500
 From: Scot Hetzel swhet...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Circular dependency in devel/doxygen?
 To: tho...@freebsd.org, muel...@freebsd.org
 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 
 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:47 AM,  tho...@freebsd.org wrote:
  Hey everyone, I maintain devel/doxygen (sorry I didn't add my 2 cents
  earlier, I've been a bit busy) and was looking at this particular thread.  
  I
  know someone filed a PR regarding the circular dependency, stating that it
  might be best to split apart doxygen so one port builds just the program 
  and
  another port build just the documentation.  I am not sure if that is the
  best thing to do or not. I've been wanting to push out an update to doxygen
  but this has been a stopping block for me.
 
  Naram Qashat
 
  It seems strange to me that doxygen would have audio dependencies, or is 
  doxygen supposed to work with a speech synthesizer?
 
  What dependencies would doxygen documentation have?  Anything circular?
 
 
 The problem is that doxygen has a build dependancy on graphics
 graphviz when building it's documentation, and when you select certain
 options, you can cause a circular dependancy.  See below for one
 example:
 
  audio/pulseaudio
   - audio/jack
   -- devel/doxygen
   --- graphics/graphviz
    graphics/devil
   - devel/sdl12
   -- audio/pulseaudio
 
 Scot
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time for my dime's worth of questions.  is there any way of
building that audio/video app or plugin that works with linux?  
it is from adobe and works with pc-bsd.  we've got a free
version.  is it flash?  this is the main reason i switched
to ubuntu for my desktop.  so i can watch sites like pbs.org
and npr.org.  stream igages with sound.  in my opinion, it
is this that stalls the broader use of all of the berkeley
distributions.



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Re: Dropping maintainership of my ports

2011-04-27 Thread Gary Kline

sorry for the top post, but shouolder is killing me.

idea 1: can the 'summer of code' guys help us out with this.

idea 2.  why oh why can we not live with the fbsd and debian
paradigm?

the reason i've kept my domain here at home is because i like the
flexibility i see.  but keeping ports current is getting to be 
impossible.  there are too many distros of every open src os and
maybe if net and free [RE]-hjoined arms that 3rd idea would work.

i'm sure that many of you guys kno w that aristotle was a polymath;
he was as sharp as anybody i have ever studied.  his highest
'virtue' was pragmatism.given the headaches with maintaining
ports, and much more, isn' t it time to look in new directions?

idea 4.  axe the number of ports.  if person x or y want to maintain
a port of his ow n , outstanding.  he can post a note to the lists.

idea 5.  beging a completely separate, independent group for
orphaned ports [ for free, net, debian, ubuntu, redhat, foobar
opsys.   


a last note: i started out as a porter.  loved i t and excelled at
it.  but it never was easy.  it's still 3/2 * bear|bitch|swine.
ergo, i know why many of this list and org are slowing or dropping
out.

Enuf,

-g
.




On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 06:43:43PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote:
 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:43:43 -0700
 From: Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net
 Subject: Dropping maintainership of my ports
 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i
 
 
 Well, due to some serious philosophical differences re these
 deprecation campaigns and what seems to be resistance to any further
 discussion, I don't think I can continue working with the committers.
 So I'm stepping down.
 
 If no one else wants to maintain them, please reset the maintainer
 of the following ports to po...@freebsd.org:
 
 audio/mcplay
 deskutils/osmo
 deskutils/teapot
 devel/argtable
 devel/egypt
 devel/gengetopt
 devel/libXGP
 devel/libYGP
 finance/xinvest
 finance/xquote
 graphics/box
 graphics/boxer
 graphics/fly
 graphics/sng
 math/ised
 misc/vifm
 misc/xsw
 multimedia/gpodder
 multimedia/openshot
 multimedia/photofilmstrip
 security/beecrypt
 security/ccrypt
 security/nettle
 security/ranpwd
 sysutils/dircomp
 sysutils/gaffitter
 sysutils/iextract
 sysutils/lookat
 sysutils/moreutils
 sysutils/moreutils-parallel
 sysutils/ncdu
 sysutils/rdup
 textproc/tdhkit
 x11/fbpanel
 
 
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Re: multimedia/vlc compile error with latest upgrade

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:38:30PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, David Southwell wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to fix this one
 
 
 I'm seeing the same build failure, but only on FreeBSD 7.3.  It
 builds fine for me on FreeBSD 8.1.
 
 -- 
 Greg

Folks,

As most of you know, i'm a [very] late adapter.  (I've gotten 
severely burned trying NEW, IMPROVED stuff.  So I'm using the 
3 2-bit 7.3.  And having massive build failures when trying to
build things like KDE4 and a couple other things.  

Anybody else have troubles of this kind: 7.3 vs 8.x?  I have
almost/___Almost___ finished my new-improved energy saving
hardware upgrades.  I don't like messing with things that 
work, even if not-completely.  --Besides, didn't somebody mention
that 5.7 was almost the same as 6.0.rc1?

gary

PS: more along these lines coming

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festival forward?

2010-04-21 Thread Gary Kline


According to Alan Black there is a new beta release of the fest*
suites.  The festval group is asking fr installation issues
when they go from 2.0.95b to 2.1.  Seems like we've been at 1.95
for centuries.  Any plans to update all this stuff...??

gary


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Re: OpenOffice.org packages

2009-11-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:57:50AM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:04:01 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 02:25:59PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
   
   If it depended on OpenJDK by default it wouldn't be a problem. I do not
   know whether it does.
   
  
  
  
  This has been bugging me for years.  If there are *open*
  version of things-Java, why-oh-why don't we use them by
  default?
  
  Sun promised to make automatic download of its stuff available
  years ago -- Or am I hallucinating? 
  
 
 Looks like all the OpenOffice ports have a line like this:
   JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd bsdjava openjdk


Okay, so what does this mean I'm going to have to find and
build from java-land from Sun?  Anything??

-gary


 
 It's been a long time since I installed OpenOffice from scratch.
 
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Re: OpenOffice.org packages

2009-11-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 04:39:19AM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote:
 On 11/26/09, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Looks like all the OpenOffice ports have a line like this:
  JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd bsdjava openjdk
 
 
 
  Okay, so what does this mean I'm going to have to find and
  build from java-land from Sun?  Anything??
 
 
 It defines which java ports are allowed to satisfy the java build/run
 dependancy.
 
 According to /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.java.mk, any one of these ports will
 satisfy the dependancy on java.
 
 freebsd  java/diablo-jdk15, java/diablo-jdk16
 bsdjava  java/jdk13 thru java/jdk16
 openjdk6   java/openjdk6
 
 If you install openjdk6 before building Open Office, it will use
 openjdk6 and you won't need to download any files from Sun.
 
Arrgh, welli just mucked around for 90 mins d/loading
diablo16, plus the tzone-2009p.zip, but the build fumbles.

i'll build openjdk6 right now.

thanks.  

gary

PS:  i may as well ask you if there are other things-java in
the open realm...  i',m thinking of the kaffee portsand so
forth.


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Re: OpenOffice.org packages

2009-11-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 02:25:59PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
 Gary Jennejohn wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:01:19 -0600
  Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com wrote:
  
  On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:05:46PM +0200, Aldis Berjoza wrote:
  I and some other FreeBSD users are wondering why there are no
  OpenOffice.org package available on FreeBSD Mirrors?
  OpenOffice is one of our most complex packages, and, depending on which
  package node it builds on, can take nearly a day to run.  That plus the
  large number of dependencies it has makes it hard to build.
 
  I know that this is not a very satisfactory answer.  I promise to once
  again look into the problem.
 
  
  Does the fact that it uses java cause a problem?  Used to be that the
  user had to manually download files from Sun, which would be impractical
  for an automated run.
  
 
 If it depended on OpenJDK by default it wouldn't be a problem. I do not
 know whether it does.
 



This has been bugging me for years.  If there are *open*
version of things-Java, why-oh-why don't we use them by
default?

Sun promised to make automatic download of its stuff available
years ago -- Or am I hallucinating? 


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Re: Ports completely and permanently hosed

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:17:20AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 06 August 2009 pm 19:10:07 Lars Eighner wrote:
 
  Would these things build if I deleted all 1619 installed
  packages and started from scratch, or are the circular gotchas
  built-in with python and qt?
 
 do not even ask this question if you have a working system.
 
 I realised this problem by luck when I tried to update a single 
 program which is affected by this. After seeing how many ports 
 depend on this, I decided to keep my system as it is and wait 
 until FreeBSD 8 is officially out.
 
 I will then do a full upgrade.
 
 I think that you hit the weakest point of FreeBSD. When a version 
 number of a base port changes, hundreds or even thousands of 
 ports have to be recompiled. It is basically the same effect as 
 when the major version number of FreeBSD changes.
 
 If this would be synchronised with the main FreeBSD releases, it 
 would have a minor effect on users.
 
 Erich


AFAIC, Erich's words could be printed in gold.  Or cast in gold and hung
above every FBSD installation.  If just this stuff--keeping current--
were made push-button, man, that would make my year.  Or century.
(*)

gary





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Re: Where are the java/jdk16 files?

2008-12-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:36:08PM +0100, Jens Schweikhardt wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:38:31AM +1100, Some Dude wrote:
 # do a google search for the exact name of the first file, then click on  
 # the cached page that'll show the sources and links
 
 Thanks, dude ;-)
 
 That was exactly what I a minuta after sending to the list. But still,
 it appears that someone messed up the download page with the wrong
 contents. It's all java binary packages when the page is supposed to
 contain src jars (as it is still the case for the google-cached page;
 man, I love the google cache!). I ended up on the very same page from
 other links saying Source. My intention is to bring this to the port
 maintainer's attention (Cc'd). Maybe they know a contact at Sun to fix
 the page contents.
 
 Regards,
 
   Jens


just a footnote: after _years_ of poking around sun's links, i
finally tried google. and YES.  god bless mommy and daddy, godbless
google-cache... .

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OOo-3 and OOo-3-RC [?]

2008-10-27 Thread Gary Kline
Maybe somebody in ports can help me understand the relationship between
the openoffice.org-3 and the openoffice.org-3-RC.  I ask because last
time I got stuck with OOo-2-RC (that I see is still in editors/.
portupgrade says the latter cannot be upgraded.

Ideally, I'd like to go with OOo-3 antil it is exceptionally good and
stay there until OOo-4.  (FWIW, I'm very happily at openoffice-2.4.
Somehow.  I'd be much obliged if somebody could explain this numbering!

tia, guys,

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mail strangeness.

2008-01-28 Thread Gary Kline

People,

Much closer to getting local mail [[ from tao.thought.org]] working.   so far, 
no mail, not even to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets thru.If tis does, can anyone 
explain the appended lines from /var/log/maillog???   WHY is the Helo 
command rejected: Host not found?  sendmail *is* rewriting my 
from= linee to just [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sic) .   All caps intentionally.
So far, I'm reaching friends, family,  and elsewhere.

Via **mutt**  

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Re: Idea: static builds

2007-10-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:36PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Jeremy Messenger wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:03:04 -0500, Dmitry Marakasov 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I just have an idea that may be useful: static port builds. This can
 help produce packages without any depends, which may be useful
 sometimes.
 
 Implementation seem pretty straightfoward to me:
 - Introduce STATIC_BUILD variable that changes usual build behavior
 - Process LIB_DEPENDS in a different way: check .a instead of .so.*, and
 fail if .a is missing, and .so is present (i.e. needed static lib is not
 available at all), don't add library ports to package depends
 - Add -static to CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS
 
 Any comments? I will try to experiment with this for now.
 
 How do you deal with the security? It will be required for all ports 
 that depend on a port to be rebuild, so bump the PORTREVISION will be 
 need. But what about for non-static that don't need to be bump? A 
 solution for that might be need too.
 
 I have no object with static build as long as it is flexible and 
 optional (disable/enable).
 
 Cheers,
 Mezz
 
 
Static, built upon static, built upon static would be a bad thing to 
 watch out for too I'd think...
Am I wrong?



I would allow the shells to be built statically, and perhaps
most or all of /bin.  Hm.  And a few other necessary utilities.
Things-X aren't essentials.  But vi is.  ed still gives me 
nightmares![*]

Wasn't the reason for NON-static builds mostly to
save-disc-space???  Whatever, having ports that build
statically-- things that  won't bomb if libfoo.so.3 is 
missing-- having this seeems like the best idea in years!
How much hacking to the Makefles is it?  

gary

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Re: Idea: static builds

2007-10-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 06:18:08PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:36PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
   
 Jeremy Messenger wrote:
 
 On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:03:04 -0500, Dmitry Marakasov 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 Hi!
 
 I just have an idea that may be useful: static port builds. This can
 help produce packages without any depends, which may be useful
 sometimes.
 
 Implementation seem pretty straightfoward to me:
 - Introduce STATIC_BUILD variable that changes usual build behavior
 - Process LIB_DEPENDS in a different way: check .a instead of .so.*, and
 fail if .a is missing, and .so is present (i.e. needed static lib is not
 available at all), don't add library ports to package depends
 - Add -static to CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS
 
 Any comments? I will try to experiment with this for now.
 
 How do you deal with the security? It will be required for all ports 
 that depend on a port to be rebuild, so bump the PORTREVISION will be 
 need. But what about for non-static that don't need to be bump? A 
 solution for that might be need too.
 
 I have no object with static build as long as it is flexible and 
 optional (disable/enable).
 
 Cheers,
 Mezz
 
 
   
Static, built upon static, built upon static would be a bad thing to 
 watch out for too I'd think...
Am I wrong?
 
 
 
 
  I would allow the shells to be built statically, and perhaps
  most or all of /bin.  Hm.  And a few other necessary utilities.
  Things-X aren't essentials.  But vi is.  ed still gives me 
  nightmares![*]
 
  Wasn't the reason for NON-static builds mostly to
  save-disc-space???  Whatever, having ports that build
  statically-- things that  won't bomb if libfoo.so.3 is 
  missing-- having this seeems like the best idea in years!
  How much hacking to the Makefles is it?  
 
  gary
 
   
 -Garrett
 
 
 [*]  for the humor-impaired: Joke.
   
 
None whatsoever really. I think it just involves making a few 
 changes to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, if you want to make the 
 modification just for yourself (I don't do that though, so I'm not sure. 
 Just OTOH rememberances).


pkgtools.conf?:: Save me!  I've onlytouched that to prevent
things like OO.o from updating and stuff.  I'm pretty sure it's
flexible enough to do just zsh And vi, of course. 

I'll wait on this.  Would really appreciate others' feedback,
tho.

gary


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Re: Uggg!

2007-06-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:43:06AM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:15:48AM -0700, Ade Lovett wrote:
 
   
On Jun 01, 2007, at 01:33 , Kris Kennaway wrote:
Download the packages from the FTP site and either reinstall them or
extract the +CONTENTS.  This will work best if you don't have local
make.conf customizations, otherwise you will see variance.
   
Actually, this does bring up a meta-issue that ports, pkgsrc, portage, all 
suffer from.
   
What happens when the metadata gets blown away (by accident, hardware 
 crash, 
flaming meteor from Mars, etc.)
   
Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
   
Yes.  It's an open-ended question.  I also have no obvious solution.  But 
 I 
do see the need for such.


One simple solution would be to bup the metadata via ssh
to several severals (or at least one!) Also bzip the file
and mail it every N hours somewhere Safe.

my dime's worth:)

gary



   
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 gjournal :)
 
 My two cents:
 I've been using it on my laptop since soon after it was available in -current
 and I love it to pieces, it has been perfectly stable for me and I would be 
 using it on my production servers it it were available in -stable.  It seems
 like it would be an invaluable tool for developers or users who might expect
 crashes.  I admit I am only using it on /usr, and my laptop has /var on /,
 but my crashes come from hardware or battery and I almost never compile while
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Re: FreeBSD and NetBSD's pkgsrc: A strategic synergy for awesomeness

2007-04-01 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 04:18:10PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On April 1, 2007 3:26:03 PM -0400 FreeBSD Ports Tree Management 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For our employee committers and contractor port maintainers we regret to
 inform you that due to redundancies many of you will be let go from
 FreeBSD.  All port maintainer's contracts are immediately terminated.
 If you refer to the organization's Porters Handbook you will note that
 we have the right to terminate maintainer contracts at will.  For our
 employee committers we will be restructuring in phases.  Those of you
 with work obligations in the other repositories will retain your ports
 tree responsibilities while training the pkgsrc workforce for their new
 role maintaining their products on FreeBSD.  Once this phase is complete
 your workload will be redirected towards your roles in the other
 repositories.  Those of you with a ports commit bit only, we wish to put
 this gently.  We are delivering a .pinkslip to your cubicles in the
 Freefall office currently.  By the end of business tomorrow we expect
 you to login and collect your belongings there and in our satellite
 offices.  All cubicles will be scheduled for deletion after that.
 Please be aware that members of the FreeBSD Security Team will be
 monitoring your access to ensure that no organization property
 accidentally goes home with you.
 
 {{snicker}}
 
 Happy April Fools Day.


Yo, and I's about ready to wrap my cold dead hands around my
AK-47 and start hunting!  Good one, Paul, but NPR beat you
to the joke bit wiith a story about 4 [legal] ring tones in 
NYC this ayem. ...Back to my integer tests I guess.

cheers, y'all,

gary


 
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 Senior Information Security Analyst
 The University of Texas at Dallas
 http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


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Re: portmaster and portmanager disagree

2007-03-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:17:07PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
 Robert Noland wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:46 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
 Tried updating all my ports - all 439 of them - sing ``portmanager -u''. 
 Numerous failures, conflicts etc. as usual. Got most of them sorted but 
 ``portmanager -s'' still reports a load as MISSING, but they aren't; the 
 directories are in /var/db/pkg and the apps work.
 
 I suspect that one of your /var/db/pkg entries is corrupt, try doing a
 pkg_info and note any errors that get reported.  Manually rebuild the
 port with the corrupted entry and then try portmanager again.
 
 
 Thanks for the response Robert, but unfortunately, pkg_info returns no 
 errors.


Mark,

I  thought I was the only one with these symptoms.  Very much 
like the ones you describe, and pkg_info is no help.  Similarly
with the other build/upgrade/fixit tools.  After several weeks '
of this, I've come to the conclusion that the upgrade side of
things is very  busted.   ()

cheers!

gary

 
 Regards,
 
 Mark
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Re: Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop

2007-03-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:46:34PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:
 Hi All.
 
 I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for 
 about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party 
 ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO.
 
 Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick 
 machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages 
 are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs 
 to be updated. 
 
 Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's apt-get update  apt-get dist upgrade 
 command, OR OpenBSD's pkg-add -u
 
 From OpenBSD's man page for pkg_add: 
 
  -u   Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon.  If
   no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages.
   This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names.
 
 I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary 
 packages, like on OpenBSD. 


Until recent months, I was hyping the Ubuntu distro of Deb/Linux.
*Everything* was push-button.  Well, okay, my first upgrade was 
a disastrous week or three long series of do-overs.  But the 
second upgrade (to 6.06) was push-buttons and wait until several
hundred megs came across my 144k ISDL.  I was eager to move up to
6.10, but the first several forum posts gave me pause.  Nutshell is
that you can [easily] upgrade every Long-Term Support version.
But these are 2 or three years apart.  And the backports are often 
unofficial  (ya' takes yer risks).  I'm still pretty happy with
older Gnome and KDE, older apps.  The Berkeley distros have the
leading-edge versions, but at least we (FBSD) don't have an easy
way of upgrading ports.  I'll stick with the rock-solid stability
of FreeBSD for my DNS server.  I'll test things that will improve
the performance of my slower servers--(tuning)--and be ready to
offer ideas, even SWAGS, on upgrading.  

So: real work here; play/AV or mostly Audio or Ubuntu.

gary



 
 Best and kind regards,
 Rico
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Re: A review of different port management tools : analysis for Google SoC project

2007-03-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:11:42AM +0100, Pav Lucistnik wrote:
 Gary Kline pí?e v út 20. 03. 2007 v 21:05 -0800:
 
  How  about this idea for integrating into a new ports/package
  project:  say for people with a fast I686 who wanted -O3 and -pipe
  and wanted his packages built remotely rather than his own
  computer.  Would be be posssible to build a package, custom
  (according to one's /etc/make.conf) on FreeBSD's servers, then
  fetch the *tgz package back?  Kernels, and worlds would reside 
  on the remote server for only a few hours before being
  automatically cleansed.  This would be super for everything from
  a i486-166MHz with 32Megs that was serving mail *only*, a slow
  to moderate i686, or even an AMD 2800.  Building locally is 
  sometimes the only way.  But if users have slower servers and
  there are no current packages (i386), why not let the builds be
  queued?  
 
 Just so you know, existing FreeBSD's servers, as you put it, are
 Pentium III blades clocked at 700 MHz.
 
 And we tend to keep them rather busy.



700MHz is my faster FBSD box; I've begun tuning all my boxen, but
this one is still slow after 6 years.  Maybe it's time to upgrade
some of the P3's to P4's... ??  Ask the user community for 
donations, hmm?

On -questions recently someone said that he didn't think it was 
a matter of compute power, but manpower.  I think both are 
essential.

 
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Re: A review of different port management tools : analysis for Google SoC project

2007-03-20 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:52:37PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Hi all,
   I know this may be more of a questions@ type of question, but I was 
 wondering if some people could provide me with short history (beyond the 
 last 3 months) and the tipping points of portmaster vs the portupgrade, 
 portinstall, etc tools.
   I know portmaster is a bourne shell script and the portupgrade, 
 portinstall, etc scripts are ruby based, so that's a given.
   I just want to know if there's a given solution that I could work 
   with in improving the ports system and forge into a unified port/pkg 
 management frontend (using bourne shell scripts and C), combined with 
 the current package management tools in place (pkg_add, pkg_version, 
 etc), as part of a Google Summer of Code proposal.



To Garrett and my days-of-yore ports gang, and the maintenance
and build guys,

How  about this idea for integrating into a new ports/package
project:  say for people with a fast I686 who wanted -O3 and -pipe
and wanted his packages built remotely rather than his own
computer.  Would be be posssible to build a package, custom
(according to one's /etc/make.conf) on FreeBSD's servers, then
fetch the *tgz package back?  Kernels, and worlds would reside 
on the remote server for only a few hours before being
automatically cleansed.  This would be super for everything from
a i486-166MHz with 32Megs that was serving mail *only*, a slow
to moderate i686, or even an AMD 2800.  Building locally is 
sometimes the only way.  But if users have slower servers and
there are no current packages (i386), why not let the builds be
queued?  

(Please 'cuse me if this is too wild, but I just had a full
double espresso and am bubbling over with ideas.)

gary




   Thank you very much for your help in trying to make a great OS even 
   better.
 -Garrett
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Re: portupgrade-2.2.2_1,2 corrupts portsdb

2007-02-01 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:02PM +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote:
 Murilo Opsfelder Araújo wrote:
  Yesterday I had the same problem and garga@ helped me to solve that.
  He told me to change my ports database to dbm_hash.
 
 It's not a fix really. A fix was committed.
 
 Well, it's worth to add a few sanity checks for DB. Really working with
 DB should be complete rewritten but I have a hard lack of time lately.
 



Goood to hear thhere's a fix.  What do I need to pkg_delete and 
what rebuild?  I have 5 FBSD severs that are constantly being 
portmanager'd or portupgraded.

thanks!

gary

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Re: portupgrade-2.2.2_1,2 corrupts portsdb

2007-02-01 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:55:21AM -0800, Brian wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:02PM +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote:
   
 Murilo Opsfelder Araújo wrote:
 
 Yesterday I had the same problem and garga@ helped me to solve that.
 He told me to change my ports database to dbm_hash.
   
 It's not a fix really. A fix was committed.
 
 Well, it's worth to add a few sanity checks for DB. Really working with
 DB should be complete rewritten but I have a hard lack of time lately.
 
 
 
 
 
  Goood to hear thhere's a fix.  What do I need to pkg_delete and 
  what rebuild?  I have 5 FBSD severs that are constantly being 
  portmanager'd or portupgraded.
 
  thanks!
 
  gary
 
   
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 I did a portsnap, followed by make deinstall and make install on 
 portupgrade, followed by a portupgrade and was successful.


That's what I did as a test.  I've got that string aliased 
as kdr:).   One down, 4 togo.

gary
 
 brian

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