Re: Circular dependency in devel/doxygen?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:09:57AM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:09:57 -0500 From: Scot Hetzel swhet...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Circular dependency in devel/doxygen? To: tho...@freebsd.org, muel...@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:47 AM, tho...@freebsd.org wrote: Hey everyone, I maintain devel/doxygen (sorry I didn't add my 2 cents earlier, I've been a bit busy) and was looking at this particular thread. I know someone filed a PR regarding the circular dependency, stating that it might be best to split apart doxygen so one port builds just the program and another port build just the documentation. I am not sure if that is the best thing to do or not. I've been wanting to push out an update to doxygen but this has been a stopping block for me. Naram Qashat It seems strange to me that doxygen would have audio dependencies, or is doxygen supposed to work with a speech synthesizer? What dependencies would doxygen documentation have? Anything circular? The problem is that doxygen has a build dependancy on graphics graphviz when building it's documentation, and when you select certain options, you can cause a circular dependancy. See below for one example: audio/pulseaudio - audio/jack -- devel/doxygen --- graphics/graphviz graphics/devil - devel/sdl12 -- audio/pulseaudio Scot ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org time for my dime's worth of questions. is there any way of building that audio/video app or plugin that works with linux? it is from adobe and works with pc-bsd. we've got a free version. is it flash? this is the main reason i switched to ubuntu for my desktop. so i can watch sites like pbs.org and npr.org. stream igages with sound. in my opinion, it is this that stalls the broader use of all of the berkeley distributions. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dropping maintainership of my ports
sorry for the top post, but shouolder is killing me. idea 1: can the 'summer of code' guys help us out with this. idea 2. why oh why can we not live with the fbsd and debian paradigm? the reason i've kept my domain here at home is because i like the flexibility i see. but keeping ports current is getting to be impossible. there are too many distros of every open src os and maybe if net and free [RE]-hjoined arms that 3rd idea would work. i'm sure that many of you guys kno w that aristotle was a polymath; he was as sharp as anybody i have ever studied. his highest 'virtue' was pragmatism.given the headaches with maintaining ports, and much more, isn' t it time to look in new directions? idea 4. axe the number of ports. if person x or y want to maintain a port of his ow n , outstanding. he can post a note to the lists. idea 5. beging a completely separate, independent group for orphaned ports [ for free, net, debian, ubuntu, redhat, foobar opsys. a last note: i started out as a porter. loved i t and excelled at it. but it never was easy. it's still 3/2 * bear|bitch|swine. ergo, i know why many of this list and org are slowing or dropping out. Enuf, -g . On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 06:43:43PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:43:43 -0700 From: Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net Subject: Dropping maintainership of my ports To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i Well, due to some serious philosophical differences re these deprecation campaigns and what seems to be resistance to any further discussion, I don't think I can continue working with the committers. So I'm stepping down. If no one else wants to maintain them, please reset the maintainer of the following ports to po...@freebsd.org: audio/mcplay deskutils/osmo deskutils/teapot devel/argtable devel/egypt devel/gengetopt devel/libXGP devel/libYGP finance/xinvest finance/xquote graphics/box graphics/boxer graphics/fly graphics/sng math/ised misc/vifm misc/xsw multimedia/gpodder multimedia/openshot multimedia/photofilmstrip security/beecrypt security/ccrypt security/nettle security/ranpwd sysutils/dircomp sysutils/gaffitter sysutils/iextract sysutils/lookat sysutils/moreutils sysutils/moreutils-parallel sysutils/ncdu sysutils/rdup textproc/tdhkit x11/fbpanel ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: multimedia/vlc compile error with latest upgrade
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:38:30PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, David Southwell wrote: Does anyone know how to fix this one I'm seeing the same build failure, but only on FreeBSD 7.3. It builds fine for me on FreeBSD 8.1. -- Greg Folks, As most of you know, i'm a [very] late adapter. (I've gotten severely burned trying NEW, IMPROVED stuff. So I'm using the 3 2-bit 7.3. And having massive build failures when trying to build things like KDE4 and a couple other things. Anybody else have troubles of this kind: 7.3 vs 8.x? I have almost/___Almost___ finished my new-improved energy saving hardware upgrades. I don't like messing with things that work, even if not-completely. --Besides, didn't somebody mention that 5.7 was almost the same as 6.0.rc1? gary PS: more along these lines coming -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org/#JTTD ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
festival forward?
According to Alan Black there is a new beta release of the fest* suites. The festval group is asking fr installation issues when they go from 2.0.95b to 2.1. Seems like we've been at 1.95 for centuries. Any plans to update all this stuff...?? gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenOffice.org packages
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:57:50AM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:04:01 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 02:25:59PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: If it depended on OpenJDK by default it wouldn't be a problem. I do not know whether it does. This has been bugging me for years. If there are *open* version of things-Java, why-oh-why don't we use them by default? Sun promised to make automatic download of its stuff available years ago -- Or am I hallucinating? Looks like all the OpenOffice ports have a line like this: JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd bsdjava openjdk Okay, so what does this mean I'm going to have to find and build from java-land from Sun? Anything?? -gary It's been a long time since I installed OpenOffice from scratch. --- Gary Jennejohn -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenOffice.org packages
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 04:39:19AM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote: On 11/26/09, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Looks like all the OpenOffice ports have a line like this: JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd bsdjava openjdk Okay, so what does this mean I'm going to have to find and build from java-land from Sun? Anything?? It defines which java ports are allowed to satisfy the java build/run dependancy. According to /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.java.mk, any one of these ports will satisfy the dependancy on java. freebsd java/diablo-jdk15, java/diablo-jdk16 bsdjava java/jdk13 thru java/jdk16 openjdk6 java/openjdk6 If you install openjdk6 before building Open Office, it will use openjdk6 and you won't need to download any files from Sun. Arrgh, welli just mucked around for 90 mins d/loading diablo16, plus the tzone-2009p.zip, but the build fumbles. i'll build openjdk6 right now. thanks. gary PS: i may as well ask you if there are other things-java in the open realm... i',m thinking of the kaffee portsand so forth. Scot ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenOffice.org packages
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 02:25:59PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:01:19 -0600 Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:05:46PM +0200, Aldis Berjoza wrote: I and some other FreeBSD users are wondering why there are no OpenOffice.org package available on FreeBSD Mirrors? OpenOffice is one of our most complex packages, and, depending on which package node it builds on, can take nearly a day to run. That plus the large number of dependencies it has makes it hard to build. I know that this is not a very satisfactory answer. I promise to once again look into the problem. Does the fact that it uses java cause a problem? Used to be that the user had to manually download files from Sun, which would be impractical for an automated run. If it depended on OpenJDK by default it wouldn't be a problem. I do not know whether it does. This has been bugging me for years. If there are *open* version of things-Java, why-oh-why don't we use them by default? Sun promised to make automatic download of its stuff available years ago -- Or am I hallucinating? -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports completely and permanently hosed
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:17:20AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 19:10:07 Lars Eighner wrote: Would these things build if I deleted all 1619 installed packages and started from scratch, or are the circular gotchas built-in with python and qt? do not even ask this question if you have a working system. I realised this problem by luck when I tried to update a single program which is affected by this. After seeing how many ports depend on this, I decided to keep my system as it is and wait until FreeBSD 8 is officially out. I will then do a full upgrade. I think that you hit the weakest point of FreeBSD. When a version number of a base port changes, hundreds or even thousands of ports have to be recompiled. It is basically the same effect as when the major version number of FreeBSD changes. If this would be synchronised with the main FreeBSD releases, it would have a minor effect on users. Erich AFAIC, Erich's words could be printed in gold. Or cast in gold and hung above every FBSD installation. If just this stuff--keeping current-- were made push-button, man, that would make my year. Or century. (*) gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Where are the java/jdk16 files?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:36:08PM +0100, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:38:31AM +1100, Some Dude wrote: # do a google search for the exact name of the first file, then click on # the cached page that'll show the sources and links Thanks, dude ;-) That was exactly what I a minuta after sending to the list. But still, it appears that someone messed up the download page with the wrong contents. It's all java binary packages when the page is supposed to contain src jars (as it is still the case for the google-cached page; man, I love the google cache!). I ended up on the very same page from other links saying Source. My intention is to bring this to the port maintainer's attention (Cc'd). Maybe they know a contact at Sun to fix the page contents. Regards, Jens just a footnote: after _years_ of poking around sun's links, i finally tried google. and YES. god bless mommy and daddy, godbless google-cache... . -g -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OOo-3 and OOo-3-RC [?]
Maybe somebody in ports can help me understand the relationship between the openoffice.org-3 and the openoffice.org-3-RC. I ask because last time I got stuck with OOo-2-RC (that I see is still in editors/. portupgrade says the latter cannot be upgraded. Ideally, I'd like to go with OOo-3 antil it is exceptionally good and stay there until OOo-4. (FWIW, I'm very happily at openoffice-2.4. Somehow. I'd be much obliged if somebody could explain this numbering! tia, guys, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail strangeness.
People, Much closer to getting local mail [[ from tao.thought.org]] working. so far, no mail, not even to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets thru.If tis does, can anyone explain the appended lines from /var/log/maillog??? WHY is the Helo command rejected: Host not found? sendmail *is* rewriting my from= linee to just [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sic) . All caps intentionally. So far, I'm reaching friends, family, and elsewhere. Via **mutt** any clues, guys? -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org Jan 28 17:15:11 tao sm-mta[31683]: m0SMD6LO031117: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1002/1002), delay=03:02:05, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=661432, relay=mx1.freebsd.org. [69.147.83.52], dsn=4.7.1, stat=Deferred: 450 4.7.1 tao.thought.org: Helo command rejected: Host not found ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea: static builds
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:36PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:03:04 -0500, Dmitry Marakasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I just have an idea that may be useful: static port builds. This can help produce packages without any depends, which may be useful sometimes. Implementation seem pretty straightfoward to me: - Introduce STATIC_BUILD variable that changes usual build behavior - Process LIB_DEPENDS in a different way: check .a instead of .so.*, and fail if .a is missing, and .so is present (i.e. needed static lib is not available at all), don't add library ports to package depends - Add -static to CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS Any comments? I will try to experiment with this for now. How do you deal with the security? It will be required for all ports that depend on a port to be rebuild, so bump the PORTREVISION will be need. But what about for non-static that don't need to be bump? A solution for that might be need too. I have no object with static build as long as it is flexible and optional (disable/enable). Cheers, Mezz Static, built upon static, built upon static would be a bad thing to watch out for too I'd think... Am I wrong? I would allow the shells to be built statically, and perhaps most or all of /bin. Hm. And a few other necessary utilities. Things-X aren't essentials. But vi is. ed still gives me nightmares![*] Wasn't the reason for NON-static builds mostly to save-disc-space??? Whatever, having ports that build statically-- things that won't bomb if libfoo.so.3 is missing-- having this seeems like the best idea in years! How much hacking to the Makefles is it? gary -Garrett ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [*] for the humor-impaired: Joke. -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Idea: static builds
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 06:18:08PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:36PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:03:04 -0500, Dmitry Marakasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I just have an idea that may be useful: static port builds. This can help produce packages without any depends, which may be useful sometimes. Implementation seem pretty straightfoward to me: - Introduce STATIC_BUILD variable that changes usual build behavior - Process LIB_DEPENDS in a different way: check .a instead of .so.*, and fail if .a is missing, and .so is present (i.e. needed static lib is not available at all), don't add library ports to package depends - Add -static to CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS Any comments? I will try to experiment with this for now. How do you deal with the security? It will be required for all ports that depend on a port to be rebuild, so bump the PORTREVISION will be need. But what about for non-static that don't need to be bump? A solution for that might be need too. I have no object with static build as long as it is flexible and optional (disable/enable). Cheers, Mezz Static, built upon static, built upon static would be a bad thing to watch out for too I'd think... Am I wrong? I would allow the shells to be built statically, and perhaps most or all of /bin. Hm. And a few other necessary utilities. Things-X aren't essentials. But vi is. ed still gives me nightmares![*] Wasn't the reason for NON-static builds mostly to save-disc-space??? Whatever, having ports that build statically-- things that won't bomb if libfoo.so.3 is missing-- having this seeems like the best idea in years! How much hacking to the Makefles is it? gary -Garrett [*] for the humor-impaired: Joke. None whatsoever really. I think it just involves making a few changes to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, if you want to make the modification just for yourself (I don't do that though, so I'm not sure. Just OTOH rememberances). pkgtools.conf?:: Save me! I've onlytouched that to prevent things like OO.o from updating and stuff. I'm pretty sure it's flexible enough to do just zsh And vi, of course. I'll wait on this. Would really appreciate others' feedback, tho. gary -Garrett -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uggg!
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:43:06AM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:15:48AM -0700, Ade Lovett wrote: On Jun 01, 2007, at 01:33 , Kris Kennaway wrote: Download the packages from the FTP site and either reinstall them or extract the +CONTENTS. This will work best if you don't have local make.conf customizations, otherwise you will see variance. Actually, this does bring up a meta-issue that ports, pkgsrc, portage, all suffer from. What happens when the metadata gets blown away (by accident, hardware crash, flaming meteor from Mars, etc.) Is there anything we can do to mitigate this? Yes. It's an open-ended question. I also have no obvious solution. But I do see the need for such. One simple solution would be to bup the metadata via ssh to several severals (or at least one!) Also bzip the file and mail it every N hours somewhere Safe. my dime's worth:) gary -aDe gjournal :) My two cents: I've been using it on my laptop since soon after it was available in -current and I love it to pieces, it has been perfectly stable for me and I would be using it on my production servers it it were available in -stable. It seems like it would be an invaluable tool for developers or users who might expect crashes. I admit I am only using it on /usr, and my laptop has /var on /, but my crashes come from hardware or battery and I almost never compile while on battery. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and NetBSD's pkgsrc: A strategic synergy for awesomeness
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 04:18:10PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On April 1, 2007 3:26:03 PM -0400 FreeBSD Ports Tree Management [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For our employee committers and contractor port maintainers we regret to inform you that due to redundancies many of you will be let go from FreeBSD. All port maintainer's contracts are immediately terminated. If you refer to the organization's Porters Handbook you will note that we have the right to terminate maintainer contracts at will. For our employee committers we will be restructuring in phases. Those of you with work obligations in the other repositories will retain your ports tree responsibilities while training the pkgsrc workforce for their new role maintaining their products on FreeBSD. Once this phase is complete your workload will be redirected towards your roles in the other repositories. Those of you with a ports commit bit only, we wish to put this gently. We are delivering a .pinkslip to your cubicles in the Freefall office currently. By the end of business tomorrow we expect you to login and collect your belongings there and in our satellite offices. All cubicles will be scheduled for deletion after that. Please be aware that members of the FreeBSD Security Team will be monitoring your access to ensure that no organization property accidentally goes home with you. {{snicker}} Happy April Fools Day. Yo, and I's about ready to wrap my cold dead hands around my AK-47 and start hunting! Good one, Paul, but NPR beat you to the joke bit wiith a story about 4 [legal] ring tones in NYC this ayem. ...Back to my integer tests I guess. cheers, y'all, gary Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portmaster and portmanager disagree
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:17:07PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: Robert Noland wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:46 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: Tried updating all my ports - all 439 of them - sing ``portmanager -u''. Numerous failures, conflicts etc. as usual. Got most of them sorted but ``portmanager -s'' still reports a load as MISSING, but they aren't; the directories are in /var/db/pkg and the apps work. I suspect that one of your /var/db/pkg entries is corrupt, try doing a pkg_info and note any errors that get reported. Manually rebuild the port with the corrupted entry and then try portmanager again. Thanks for the response Robert, but unfortunately, pkg_info returns no errors. Mark, I thought I was the only one with these symptoms. Very much like the ones you describe, and pkg_info is no help. Similarly with the other build/upgrade/fixit tools. After several weeks ' of this, I've come to the conclusion that the upgrade side of things is very busted. () cheers! gary Regards, Mark ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:46:34PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: Hi All. I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO. Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs to be updated. Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's apt-get update apt-get dist upgrade command, OR OpenBSD's pkg-add -u From OpenBSD's man page for pkg_add: -u Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon. If no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages. This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names. I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary packages, like on OpenBSD. Until recent months, I was hyping the Ubuntu distro of Deb/Linux. *Everything* was push-button. Well, okay, my first upgrade was a disastrous week or three long series of do-overs. But the second upgrade (to 6.06) was push-buttons and wait until several hundred megs came across my 144k ISDL. I was eager to move up to 6.10, but the first several forum posts gave me pause. Nutshell is that you can [easily] upgrade every Long-Term Support version. But these are 2 or three years apart. And the backports are often unofficial (ya' takes yer risks). I'm still pretty happy with older Gnome and KDE, older apps. The Berkeley distros have the leading-edge versions, but at least we (FBSD) don't have an easy way of upgrading ports. I'll stick with the rock-solid stability of FreeBSD for my DNS server. I'll test things that will improve the performance of my slower servers--(tuning)--and be ready to offer ideas, even SWAGS, on upgrading. So: real work here; play/AV or mostly Audio or Ubuntu. gary Best and kind regards, Rico ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A review of different port management tools : analysis for Google SoC project
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:11:42AM +0100, Pav Lucistnik wrote: Gary Kline pí?e v út 20. 03. 2007 v 21:05 -0800: How about this idea for integrating into a new ports/package project: say for people with a fast I686 who wanted -O3 and -pipe and wanted his packages built remotely rather than his own computer. Would be be posssible to build a package, custom (according to one's /etc/make.conf) on FreeBSD's servers, then fetch the *tgz package back? Kernels, and worlds would reside on the remote server for only a few hours before being automatically cleansed. This would be super for everything from a i486-166MHz with 32Megs that was serving mail *only*, a slow to moderate i686, or even an AMD 2800. Building locally is sometimes the only way. But if users have slower servers and there are no current packages (i386), why not let the builds be queued? Just so you know, existing FreeBSD's servers, as you put it, are Pentium III blades clocked at 700 MHz. And we tend to keep them rather busy. 700MHz is my faster FBSD box; I've begun tuning all my boxen, but this one is still slow after 6 years. Maybe it's time to upgrade some of the P3's to P4's... ?? Ask the user community for donations, hmm? On -questions recently someone said that he didn't think it was a matter of compute power, but manpower. I think both are essential. -- Pav Lucistnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do we need a film of Lord of the Rings when we have the book? Because watching a cg enhanced Legolas fire a flaming arrow into the heart of a warg is cool? - [EMAIL PROTECTED] in rec.games.roguelike.angband -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A review of different port management tools : analysis for Google SoC project
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:52:37PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Hi all, I know this may be more of a questions@ type of question, but I was wondering if some people could provide me with short history (beyond the last 3 months) and the tipping points of portmaster vs the portupgrade, portinstall, etc tools. I know portmaster is a bourne shell script and the portupgrade, portinstall, etc scripts are ruby based, so that's a given. I just want to know if there's a given solution that I could work with in improving the ports system and forge into a unified port/pkg management frontend (using bourne shell scripts and C), combined with the current package management tools in place (pkg_add, pkg_version, etc), as part of a Google Summer of Code proposal. To Garrett and my days-of-yore ports gang, and the maintenance and build guys, How about this idea for integrating into a new ports/package project: say for people with a fast I686 who wanted -O3 and -pipe and wanted his packages built remotely rather than his own computer. Would be be posssible to build a package, custom (according to one's /etc/make.conf) on FreeBSD's servers, then fetch the *tgz package back? Kernels, and worlds would reside on the remote server for only a few hours before being automatically cleansed. This would be super for everything from a i486-166MHz with 32Megs that was serving mail *only*, a slow to moderate i686, or even an AMD 2800. Building locally is sometimes the only way. But if users have slower servers and there are no current packages (i386), why not let the builds be queued? (Please 'cuse me if this is too wild, but I just had a full double espresso and am bubbling over with ideas.) gary Thank you very much for your help in trying to make a great OS even better. -Garrett ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade-2.2.2_1,2 corrupts portsdb
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:02PM +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: Murilo Opsfelder Araújo wrote: Yesterday I had the same problem and garga@ helped me to solve that. He told me to change my ports database to dbm_hash. It's not a fix really. A fix was committed. Well, it's worth to add a few sanity checks for DB. Really working with DB should be complete rewritten but I have a hard lack of time lately. Goood to hear thhere's a fix. What do I need to pkg_delete and what rebuild? I have 5 FBSD severs that are constantly being portmanager'd or portupgraded. thanks! gary -- Dixi. Sem. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade-2.2.2_1,2 corrupts portsdb
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:55:21AM -0800, Brian wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:02PM +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: Murilo Opsfelder Araújo wrote: Yesterday I had the same problem and garga@ helped me to solve that. He told me to change my ports database to dbm_hash. It's not a fix really. A fix was committed. Well, it's worth to add a few sanity checks for DB. Really working with DB should be complete rewritten but I have a hard lack of time lately. Goood to hear thhere's a fix. What do I need to pkg_delete and what rebuild? I have 5 FBSD severs that are constantly being portmanager'd or portupgraded. thanks! gary -- Dixi. Sem. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did a portsnap, followed by make deinstall and make install on portupgrade, followed by a portupgrade and was successful. That's what I did as a test. I've got that string aliased as kdr:). One down, 4 togo. gary brian -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]