Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-28 Thread Chris Rees
2009/2/27 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br:
 Em Sex, 2009-02-27 às 14:45 +0300, z...@zaa.pp.ru escreveu:

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
  Hi
 
  I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
  planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
  because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.


 Hello...


 I use a free version of the Leopard based on darwin (freebsd6) named
 hackintosh  it is the google,
 it is free, and just works...

 You can even buy a standard notebook, and install.  I will transform
 the notebook in an
 apple leopard 10.

 It is a DVD of 4Gb..


 Sergio



Not only is that not what the OP is asking for, you're making us look
like criminals. Save your warez talk for other places please.

Chris
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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-28 Thread Sean Cavanaugh



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Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook


2009/2/27 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br:

Em Sex, 2009-02-27 às 14:45 +0300, z...@zaa.pp.ru escreveu:


On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
 Hi

 I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
 planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
 because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.



for simple clarification. OSX is built on top of Darwin which is BASED on 
FreeBSD, but is not BSD. its BSD code built on top of the Mach kernel.
Ports are just the source code for the programs yer looking for anyway so 
there's nothing stopping you from doing stuff like installing OpenOffice or 
Gimp under OSX.
I've seen people replace the Quartz interface with Gnome before.  overall Im 
with you in abstaining from anything with the name apple attached to it 
since its all overpriced underpowered crap. 


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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Mario Theodoridis ma...@schmut.com wrote:
 On Friday 27 February 2009 01:34:09 Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
 Hi

 I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
 planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
 because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.

 But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
 it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
 spared of paying profusely?

 There are port systems, but i doubt FreeBSD ports will build on OS X
 check out http://www.finkproject.org/
 and http://darwinports.com/

 Also the mac doesn't run X natively and the implementation used to be
 substandard a couple of years ago. (Difficult clipboard support, apps not on
 task bar, multi monitor hand ups...). I assume this has improved, since it's
 been a couple of years since i played with macs.

fink and darwinports have all but died off now. I highly suggest
using macports because (apart from the tcl based wrapper script), it's
based off of FreeBSD's port system, with some tweaks. They also seem
to keep things more up to date than fink did.
HTH,
-Garrett
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Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi

I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.

But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
spared of paying profusely?


regards

Nataraj
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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread Lars Engels

Quoting Nataraj S Narayan natara...@gmail.com:


Hi

I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.

But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
spared of paying profusely?



You can install FreeBSD on your Macbook and have access to FreeBSD's  
19,815 ports then. :)


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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread zaa
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
 Hi
 
 I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
 planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
 because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.
 
 But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
 it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
 spared of paying profusely?

Mac users might use Mac Ports - http://www.macports.org/
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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread Demelier David
z...@zaa.pp.ru wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
  Hi
  
  I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
  planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
  because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.
  
  But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
  it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
  spared of paying profusely?
 
 Mac users might use Mac Ports - http://www.macports.org/
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I don't know if we can runs any FreeBSD ports, I know that the mac os
kernel have a FreeBSD layer and you can runs some binaries from
unix-like OS.
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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread Elliot Schlegelmilch
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
 I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
 planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
 because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.

Don't you need to pay for upgrades or add ons for any system, Apple or
otherwise? Do you mean pay for software? 
 
 But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
 it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
 spared of paying profusely?

Define profusely.

So am I to understand that you don't want to buy your wife software
for her computer? There are plenty of free alternatives, depending on
her needs, which you've omitted. Firefox, Safari, Opera are all
free. OpenOffice should work in Mac OS X. Perhaps you should look at
apple.com/downloads/ and see what's in your price range.

Does she already have legal copies of Windows software?  There are at
least two choices of emmulators.

Alternately, you may be searching for something like:
finkproject.org or
darwinports.com





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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread John Webster


--On February 27, 2009 1:44:08 PM -0500 Elliot Schlegelmilch 
elliot+l...@schlegelmilch.org wrote:

 
 Alternately, you may be searching for something like:
 finkproject.org or
 darwinports.com
 

I would add MacPorts http://www.macports.org/.

jw

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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread John Webster


--On February 27, 2009 11:04:31 AM -0800 John Webster jwebs...@es.net wrote:

 
 
 --On February 27, 2009 1:44:08 PM -0500 Elliot Schlegelmilch 
 elliot+l...@schlegelmilch.org wrote:
 
 
 Alternately, you may be searching for something like:
 finkproject.org or
 darwinports.com
 
 
 I would add MacPorts http://www.macports.org/.
 

Also take a look at http://www.opensourcemac.org/
(Google is your friend)  




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Re: Ports on Macbook

2009-02-27 Thread Mario Theodoridis
On Friday 27 February 2009 01:34:09 Nataraj S Narayan wrote:
 Hi

 I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is
 planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly
 because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons.

 But i see there is the 'ports' for Mac as in the case of FreeBSD. Is
 it the same thing? Can we use FreeBSD ports on Macbook? That we I am
 spared of paying profusely?

There are port systems, but i doubt FreeBSD ports will build on OS X
check out http://www.finkproject.org/
and http://darwinports.com/

Also the mac doesn't run X natively and the implementation used to be 
substandard a couple of years ago. (Difficult clipboard support, apps not on 
task bar, multi monitor hand ups...). I assume this has improved, since it's 
been a couple of years since i played with macs.


mario;

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