Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 03/30/10 21:36, Arseny Nasokin wrote: I don't clearly understand, will be ports system removed? At this time all discussion is theoretical. LONG before we make any actual changes the users will have a chance to chime

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 04:14, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: Today binary packages are rolled as generic as possible provided the architecture they're built for and are monolithic, meaning that they contain the

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 31 Mar 2010, at 10:20, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 04:14, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: Today binary packages are rolled as generic as possible provided the architecture

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 31 Mar 2010, at 09:19, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 03/30/10 21:36, Arseny Nasokin wrote: I don't clearly understand, will be ports system removed? At this time all discussion is theoretical. LONG before we make any actual changes the users will have a chance to chime in, and

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 10:20, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 04:14, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: Today binary

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis [sic]

2010-03-31 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:39:35 -0700, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com articulated: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 10:20, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 31 Mar 2010, at 12:39, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: If we are talk about specialized optimisations or customisations we should talk about ports system. If we talk about desktop machines, there binary packages are better in most cases (for example, using Synaptics frontend)

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/03/2010 17:45:21, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: This has been floated around in this thread as fat packages, where you basically have the build cluster build a port, eg. three ways. In our case vim-lite (no x11), vim (gui) and vim-full (perl,

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 01:05:39AM +0400, Eir Nym wrote: I work on creating system for system and ports autobuilder with custom settings for my FreeBSD machines. I know about many programs, which do same, but I don't like strange depends, which are not controlled by OPTIONS and some another

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Arseny Nasokin
-- With pleasure On 30 Mar 2010, at 23:14, Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 01:05:39AM +0400, Eir Nym wrote: I work on creating system for system and ports autobuilder with custom settings for my FreeBSD machines. I know about many programs,

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: --  With pleasure On 30 Mar 2010, at 23:14, Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 01:05:39AM +0400, Eir Nym wrote: I work on creating system for system and ports autobuilder

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 31 Mar 2010, at 00:49, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: -- With pleasure On 30 Mar 2010, at 23:14, Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 01:05:39AM +0400, Eir

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 00:49, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 Mar 2010, at 23:14, Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote:

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 31 Mar 2010, at 04:14, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, at 00:49, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Arseny Nasokin eir...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 Mar

Re: Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-30 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/30/10 21:36, Arseny Nasokin wrote: I don't clearly understand, will be ports system removed? At this time all discussion is theoretical. LONG before we make any actual changes the users will have a chance to chime in, and will be notified if any actual changes are made. Doug --

Old ports bugs analyzis

2010-03-29 Thread Eir Nym
I work on creating system for system and ports autobuilder with custom settings for my FreeBSD machines. I know about many programs, which do same, but I don't like strange depends, which are not controlled by OPTIONS and some another I've analyse ports tree and want to say about. There're lot