Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 01:32:06AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 09:43:54PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: This makes no sense at all, since X.org is (by definition) X11R7. They changed the protocol? I thought that was what the suffix was originally for. No, not

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-19 Thread Florent Thoumie
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 21:43 +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dejan Lesjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] as far as X.org 7 ports themselves go, they right now already happily build and install under /usr/X11R6 prefix [...] This makes no sense at all, since X.org is (by definition) X11R7.

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-14 Thread Maxim Sobolev
What's the gain? Transition will be a really big PITA for most existing users. Everybody who would be trying to install a KDE/GNOME or even a general X11 port after a switchover still having all X11 bits in /usr/X11R6 is likely to be screwed on build time, due to mismatching includes/libraries

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 23:58 -0700, Maxim Sobolev wrote: What's the gain? Transition will be a really big PITA for most existing users. Everybody who would be trying to install a KDE/GNOME or even a general X11 port after a switchover still having all X11 bits in /usr/X11R6 is likely to be

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-14 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:09:27 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; --- Dejan Lesjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Friday 14 July 2006 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; Just here mumbling... It would be interesting to set X11BASE=/usr/X11 when using XFree86 and

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-13 Thread Vasil Dimov
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:10:01PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:59:08PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:56 -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 04:48:39PM -0700, Fred Cox wrote: Those man pages for whatis are pretty

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-13 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, 2006-Jul-13 01:53:47 +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: It should be possible to make a shell skript that seds through shell scripts, moves everything around and fixes /var/db/pkg without having to rebuild anything. .la files have absolute pathnames embedded in them. I think you can virtually

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-13 Thread pfgshield-freebsd
Hi; Just here mumbling... It would be interesting to set X11BASE=/usr/X11 when using XFree86 and X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} when using XOrg. Not only due to historical consistency (/usr/X11 is the path recommended in XFree86 manpages), but as a way to be able to use XFree86 and keep the system

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 05:34:22PM -0500, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: Dejan Lesjak wrote: Hello, There were a couple of debates already concerning /usr/X11R6 as prefix for X11 ports and a bunch of other ports that currently by default install there. Quite some people were, when

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread Fred Cox
What about duplicated file names? On my desktop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/{X11R6,local}/man/whatis -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 162506 Jul 8 04:15 /usr/X11R6/man/whatis -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 48606 Jul 8 04:15 /usr/local/man/whatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread michael johnson
On 7/12/06, Fred Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about duplicated file names? On my desktop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/{X11R6,local}/man/whatis -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 162506 Jul 8 04:15 /usr/X11R6/man/whatis -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 48606 Jul 8 04:15 /usr/local/man/whatis

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread Fred Cox
Those man pages for whatis are pretty radically different in size. Maybe they are mergeable, but there's going to be a fair amount of work doing that for all possible conflicts. I don't have all the ports installed on my machine, so this is not a complete list. Fred --- michael johnson [EMAIL

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
michael johnson wrote: On 7/12/06, Dejan Lesjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There were a couple of debates already concerning /usr/X11R6 as prefix for X11 ports and a bunch of other ports that currently by default install there. Quite some people were, when creating a new port that

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread michael johnson
On 7/12/06, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael johnson wrote: On 7/12/06, Dejan Lesjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There were a couple of debates already concerning /usr/X11R6 as prefix for X11 ports and a bunch of other ports that currently by default install there.

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:59:08PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:56 -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 04:48:39PM -0700, Fred Cox wrote: Those man pages for whatis are pretty radically different in size. Maybe they are mergeable, but there's

Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE

2006-07-12 Thread michael johnson
On 7/13/06, Joe Marcus Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:56 -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 04:48:39PM -0700, Fred Cox wrote: Those man pages for whatis are pretty radically different in size. Maybe they are mergeable, but there's going to be a