Re: Seamonkey and QupZilla need update?

[Thomas Mueller]

from Matthew Rezny:

> Qupzill-qt5 is a much better choice than qupzilla-qt4 due to the newer webkit
> included in qt5, relative to qt4. That is version of webkit in qt5 (even 5.6)
> is quite dated.

> QupZilla 2.x is signiificantly different, re-written to use qtwebengine 
> instead
> of qtwebkit. qtwebengine has not been ported since that is a task similar to
> Chromium and upstream (Google) does not accept patched for platforms they
> don't support, i.e. *BSD. QupZilla 2.x will be a separate port from QupZilla
> 1.x, but that will not come until qtwebengine.

> Meanwhile, there is a new effort to maintain qtwebkit upstream, and this is
> being tested. It is not yet feature complete, but there should be an updated
> qtwebkit sooner or later which works with QupZilla 1.x and other browsers.

Thanks to you and Olivier Duchateau for explanation regarding complications 
involved in updating QupZilla!

I see Haikuports includes QupZilla only up to 1.8.7, and QupZilla is not in 
NetBSD pkgsrc but is in pkgsrc/wip (work in progress) at v1.8.6.

I'd like to be able to switch fully from qt4 to qt5, but print/hplip is set up 
only for qt4; however print/hplip in pkgsrc offers the choice between qt4 and 
qt5, qt4 being regarded as legacy.

Tom

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Re: Seamonkey and QupZilla need update?

[Matthew Rezny]

On Sunday 02 October 2016 08:00:03 Thomas Mueller wrote:
> What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to
> the current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?
> 
> What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current
> browser.
> 
> Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message
> about my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other
> online financial services.
> 
> I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also
> appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on
> Windows or Mac.
> 
> I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version
> is 2.0.1.  I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that
> Seamonkey 2.39.  Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the
> user-agent string; I believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.
> 
> If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to
> qupzilla-qt5.
> 
Qupzill-qt5 is a much better choice than qupzilla-qt4 due to the newer webkit 
included in qt5, relative to qt4. That is version of webkit in qt5 (even 5.6) 
is quite dated.

QupZilla 2.x is signiificantly different, re-written to use qtwebengine instead 
of qtwebkit. qtwebengine has not been ported since that is a task similar to 
Chromium and upstream (Google) does not accept patched for platforms they 
don't support, i.e. *BSD. QupZilla 2.x will be a separate port from QupZilla 
1.x, but that will not come until qtwebengine.

Meanwhile, there is a new effort to maintain qtwebkit upstream, and this is 
being tested. It is not yet feature complete, but there should be an updated 
qtwebkit sooner or later which works with QupZilla 1.x and other browsers.

> uname -a shows
> 
> FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18
> 11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC  amd64
> 
> I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.
> 
> Tom

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Re: Seamonkey and QupZilla need update?

[Olivier Duchateau]

On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:00:03 +
"Thomas Mueller"  wrote:

Hi Thomas,

> What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to the 
> current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?
> 
> What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current 
> browser.
> 
> Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message about 
> my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other online 
> financial services.  
> 
> I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also 
> appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on 
> Windows or Mac.
> 
> I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version 
> is 2.0.1.  I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that 
> Seamonkey 2.39.  Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the 
> user-agent string; I believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.
> 
> If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to 
> qupzilla-qt5.

For Seamonkey, I think the gecko@ team needs fresh blood.

About update of Qupzilla (2.0.x), it depends of Qt 5.6, this update was pushed 
2 weeks ago (revision r422306 [1]), unfortunately it also requires QtWebEngine 
not yet in ports tree (see comment log).

Regards,

[1] https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/?view=log=422306

> 
> uname -a shows
> 
> FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18 
> 11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC  amd64
> 
> I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.
> 
> Tom
> 
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Seamonkey and QupZilla need update?

[Thomas Mueller]

What is the status of www/seamonkey and prospect of updating from 2.39 to the 
current 2.40, which was released from upstream on March 14, 2016?

What makes me nervous is my bank saber-rattling about needing a more current 
browser.

Seamonkey 2.39 worked on this bank, now it blocks me with error message about 
my browser not being up-to-date; Seamonkey still works for other online 
financial services.  

I figure either the bank website doesn't like Seamonkey, though Firefox also 
appears in the user-agent string, or doesn't like FreeBSD, insisting on Windows 
or Mac.

I also have www/qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, see on qupzilla.com that current version is 
2.0.1.  I have used qupzilla-qt4 1.8.9, but it seems less robust that Seamonkey 
2.39.  Reason for my interest is the ability to fudge the user-agent string; I 
believe Xombrero and Midori also have this ability.

If I have to build qupzilla anew, hopefully updated, I might switch to 
qupzilla-qt5.

uname -a shows

FreeBSD amelia 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #10 r294248: Mon Jan 18 
11:28:40 UTC 2016 root@amelia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC  amd64

I am getting ready to update both NetBSD and FreeBSD.

Tom

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