Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-08 Thread Lapo Luchini
Doug Barton wrote: If we have maintainers who are willing to keep these things up to date and people agree that this is an acceptable [way] Well, I'm not so sure about the ones I don't use, but the ones I do use are usualyl well maintained (either that or they get a PR form me), but there's

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-08 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 08/09/2010 07:00, Rob Farmer wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 21:32, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:09 PM, Rob Farmer wrote: Around 6 months ago, a similar thing was proposed for a number of eclipse plugins - they can all be installed and updated via the builtin update

XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Lapo Luchini
Dear port committers, I understand that infofarmer@ and miwi@ have no more enough free time to be hyper-active about those and other ports (and btw, thanks very much for the huge work you did in the past!), but is out there anyone else out there with both a commit bit and some time on hand to

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/10 16:39, Lapo Luchini wrote: Dear port committers, I understand that infofarmer@ and miwi@ have no more enough free time to be hyper-active about those and other ports (and btw, thanks very much for the huge work you did in the

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Lapo Luchini on Tuesday, 07 September 2010: Dear port committers, I understand that infofarmer@ and miwi@ have no more enough free time to be hyper-active about those and other ports (and btw, thanks very much for the huge work you did in the past!), but is out there anyone else out

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
--- Original message --- From: Lapo Luchini l...@lapo.it To: po...@freebsd.org Cc: infofar...@freebsd.org, m...@freebsd.org, s...@freebsd.org Sent: 7.9.'10, 20:39 Dear port committers, I understand that infofarmer@ and miwi@ have no more enough free time to be hyper-active about

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/07/2010 09:39 AM, Lapo Luchini wrote: Dear port committers, I understand that infofarmer@ and miwi@ have no more enough free time to be hyper-active about those and other ports (and btw, thanks very much for the huge work you did in the past!), but is out there anyone else out there

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/07/2010 01:20 PM, Lapo Luchini wrote: Doug Barton wrote: For those that we are simply repackaging, what's the value in doing that, vs. simply allowing users to download them from mozilla's site? Well, in vastly multi-user places there might of course be good reasons to have a single

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Rob Farmer
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 19:39, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: My concern with this for some time is that there is little to no actual benefit for the vast majority of these ports, however they do consume resources. Admittedly not an overwhelming number of resources, but given the fact

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/07/2010 09:09 PM, Rob Farmer wrote: Around 6 months ago, a similar thing was proposed for a number of eclipse plugins - they can all be installed and updated via the builtin update manager and nothing is built for FreeBSD - they are just Java stuff that can be binary downloaded and run

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Lapo Luchini
Doug Barton wrote: Are these eclipse plugins similar to mozilla plugins in that the user has to take an additional step after the FreeBSD package is added, or if the package is on the system then it's available to all the users immediately? If the latter, then I can understand why having

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/07/2010 09:36 PM, Lapo Luchini wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Are these eclipse plugins similar to mozilla plugins in that the user has to take an additional step after the FreeBSD package is added, or if the package is on the system then it's available to all the users immediately? If the

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Rob Farmer
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 21:32, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:09 PM, Rob Farmer wrote: Around 6 months ago, a similar thing was proposed for a number of eclipse plugins - they can all be installed and updated via the builtin update manager and nothing is built for

Re: XPI infrastructure needs some love

2010-09-07 Thread Lapo Luchini
Rob Farmer wrote: Do users have to run some command to import the plugins into their ~/.mozilla profiles after root installs them or is it automatic? Homedir of the iser isn't really involved, Firefox/Thunderbird/SeaMonkey expect the system to have system-wide packages available in system