Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread perryh
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but it is not going to matter much to what extent a license has to do with this besides ease of mind maybe. We would not be using the source for the VCS in a repo that holds the source that is being distributed and none of

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:27 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: As I understand it, what is being suggested is the adoption of a new code base for a significant piece of infrastructure. I think the proposal is at less risk of being summarily rejected if it can viably be based on BSD-licensed

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
This dvcs is BSD licensed: IMHO, if it's worth to change VCS, it would be much wiser to use well-known one -- Regards, Konstantin ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.comwrote: Given the amount of GPL'd software in the base system, why are we already fighting over licensing? What is it with the open-source world and obsessing with licensing? It should be up for discussion after

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
22.09.2010, 14:11, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: BSD license has a particular advantage in embedded/black box systems, so not polluting base with more viral licensing is pretty important to project as whole I think. Do embedded systems really need to use ports tree? I guess no, or

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
Smells like Debian. Smells like Slashdot. I give up. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.comwrote: Given the amount of GPL'd software in the base system, why are we already

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-22 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:07:17 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2). http://www.keltia.net/BSDCan/paper.pdf 3). http://bit.ly/97Y8Xi 4). Because CVS just does not do any of this. Make your final comparison here: http://bit.ly/cyQBn8 For the sake of argument can you think of any reason to not switch ? Why not Git? Or you

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread jhell
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:17, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: In Message-Id: 174981284967...@web24.yandex.ru 1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2). http://www.keltia.net/BSDCan/paper.pdf 3). http://bit.ly/97Y8Xi 4). Because CVS just does not do any of this. Make your final comparison here:

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 20/09/2010 03:01, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: Insert VCS discussion here Is this just my impression or are we trying to build a bikeshed here? I think we all agree, that the stage is not set for a VCS change.

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread perryh
Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru wrote: Why not Git? One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. Granted SVN, currently used to manage src, is

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Romain Tartière
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:20:39AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: SVN [...] is GPL; nope, it's under Apache License 2.0, see: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/LICENSE -- Romain Tartière rom...@blogreen.orghttp://romain.blogreen.org/ pgp: 8234 9A78 E7C0 B807 0B59

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread Janne Snabb
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. The project currently uses Perforce for many

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread perryh
Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a viable non-GPL alternative exists. The project

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-20 Thread jhell
On 09/20/2010 22:07, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Janne Snabb sn...@epipe.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: One issue with either Git or Mercurial is that they are GPL. AFAIK FreeBSD prefers to avoid GPL in the base or in critical widely-used infrastructure if a

Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread jhell
On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring us, that would overcome the effort needed to do it (committers, users, infrastructure, tools). 1). http://bit.ly/d5UrtN 2).

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:38:28 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring us, that would overcome the effort needed to do it (committers, users,

Re: Distributed Version Control for ports(7) ( was: Re: autoconf update )

2010-09-19 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:38:28 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: On 09/18/2010 07:17, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'm still to see a concise, clear, precise, listing of advantages that switching from CVS would bring

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-18 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
: * Dominic Fandrey (kamik...@bsdforen.de) wrote: Just out of curiosity, why a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how rebuilding all the software improves

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-18 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:51:39 +0200 Dominic Fandrey kamik...@bsdforen.de wrote: On 18/09/2010 01:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: ... Mercurial being the distributed version control that it is allows you to clone, make the changes you need to the clone test

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-17 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 17/09/2010 00:35, Anonymous wrote: Dominic Fandrey kamik...@bsdforen.de writes: On 16/09/2010 19:17, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: * Dominic Fandrey (kamik...@bsdforen.de) wrote: Just out of curiosity, why a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-17 Thread Dominic Fandrey
a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how rebuilding all the software improves it. This is not a criticism - I just think there is something I don't understand

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-17 Thread jhell
a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how rebuilding all the software improves it. This is not a criticism - I just think there is something I don't understand

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-17 Thread perryh
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: ... Mercurial being the distributed version control that it is allows you to clone, make the changes you need to the clone test it thoroughly and then either push or pull them to the main tree ... At the risk of starting the VCS variant of the vi vs emacs wars :)

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-16 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Dominic Fandrey (kamik...@bsdforen.de) wrote: Just out of curiosity, why a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how rebuilding all the software improves

Re: autoconf update

2010-09-16 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 16/09/2010 19:17, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: * Dominic Fandrey (kamik...@bsdforen.de) wrote: Just out of curiosity, why a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how

autoconf update

2010-09-15 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Just out of curiosity, why a version bump because of a build dependency? I don't think an autoconf update should have an effect on any /running/ software but build systems. And I don't see how rebuilding all the software improves it. This is not a criticism - I just think there is something I