Re: Options for emulators/wine?
On 28 September 2011 10:49, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: from Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org: Some rather strange printers will be recognised by umass before ugen recognises them; you have to plug it in before umass is loaded or it becomes a mass storage device. I'm not sure that the Windows printer stack is included in Wine, why would you rather do that than use CUPS? The gutenprint drivers are often of a higher quality than the manufacturer's provided ones, and they install less trash. I need umass, otherwise USB sticks and other USB disks are inaccessible. I think you've misunderstood me. Power on (without umass), plug in printer, watch console for ulpt0 and THEN kldload umass. Should the printer be plugged in and powered on at boot time? Yes. See above :) I am already trying unsuccessfully to build hplip to access the printer in the Unix way, without wine. With wine, I might want to try another way, using MS-Windows drivers if possible. Building hplip failed due to a broken dependency, py-reportlab2 BROKEN= does not package (quoting from the Makefile) I seriously doubt you'll have any luck with hp drivers under wine :) Unless HP differs seriously from the Epsons I've always used, you can just use vanilla CUPS with them. Bear in mind, I'm no expert on HP printers; I'm only replying because no-one else has jumped in :) Chris ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Options for emulators/wine?
from Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org: Some rather strange printers will be recognised by umass before ugen recognises them; you have to plug it in before umass is loaded or it becomes a mass storage device. I'm not sure that the Windows printer stack is included in Wine, why would you rather do that than use CUPS? The gutenprint drivers are often of a higher quality than the manufacturer's provided ones, and they install less trash. I need umass, otherwise USB sticks and other USB disks are inaccessible. Should the printer be plugged in and powered on at boot time? I am already trying unsuccessfully to build hplip to access the printer in the Unix way, without wine. With wine, I might want to try another way, using MS-Windows drivers if possible. Building hplip failed due to a broken dependency, py-reportlab2 BROKEN= does not package (quoting from the Makefile) Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Options for emulators/wine?
from Michael Holmes holmesm...@gmail.com: HAL shouldn't be necessary, but you might need to manually set up CUPS. Winemaker is just a tool for building open-source Windows apps on Wine with ease. There are a few GUI tools to set up CUPS, but if I recall correctly, the web interface to CUPS is pretty self-explanatory. HP do have a nice GUI called HPLIP for utilising their printers on Linux (and ported to FreeBSD) available on ports as print/hplip, but it doesn't work with the GENERIC console config, and seems to be quite awkward to set up (you apparently cannot load USB mass storage until the printer is 'adopted' by the generic USB stack). I don't know what you mean by adopted (by the generic USB stack): seems mystic to me. CUPS would be necessary to setup printing for BSD and Linux, but would it be necessary when using Wine and going the MS-Windows way? Package message said that ulpt had to be turned off in kernel config and not loaded as a module. On the older computer, I tried unsuccessfully to setup the printer last June 29 from both NetBSD and FreeBSD, using hplip in both cases. Predominant message was No devices found. NetBSD pkgsrc had only an outdated hpijs, but pkgsrc-wip (http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/) had hplip. Message said also to disable umass, but that was too harsh, and prevented recognizing USB sticks. Would Linux offer a better chance with hplip than BSD? I tried also with Linux (Slackware 13.0), but hplip version was behind, and that failed. There is also the Ethernet option with the printer, but I need an Ethernet switch or additional router for that, which I intend to order. First attempt to build hplip on the new computer failed due to libieee1284 dependency being for i386 only. Subsequently I turned off that option after finding it was for parallel-port scanners only, not USB. Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Options for emulators/wine?
On 26 September 2011 09:27, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: from Michael Holmes holmesm...@gmail.com: HAL shouldn't be necessary, but you might need to manually set up CUPS. Winemaker is just a tool for building open-source Windows apps on Wine with ease. There are a few GUI tools to set up CUPS, but if I recall correctly, the web interface to CUPS is pretty self-explanatory. HP do have a nice GUI called HPLIP for utilising their printers on Linux (and ported to FreeBSD) available on ports as print/hplip, but it doesn't work with the GENERIC console config, and seems to be quite awkward to set up (you apparently cannot load USB mass storage until the printer is 'adopted' by the generic USB stack). I don't know what you mean by adopted (by the generic USB stack): seems mystic to me. Some rather strange printers will be recognised by umass before ugen recognises them; you have to plug it in before umass is loaded or it becomes a mass storage device. CUPS would be necessary to setup printing for BSD and Linux, but would it be necessary when using Wine and going the MS-Windows way? I'm not sure that the Windows printer stack is included in Wine, why would you rather do that than use CUPS? The gutenprint drivers are often of a higher quality than the manufacturer's provided ones, and they install less trash. Package message said that ulpt had to be turned off in kernel config and not loaded as a module. On the older computer, I tried unsuccessfully to setup the printer last June 29 from both NetBSD and FreeBSD, using hplip in both cases. Predominant message was No devices found. NetBSD pkgsrc had only an outdated hpijs, but pkgsrc-wip (http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/) had hplip. Message said also to disable umass, but that was too harsh, and prevented recognizing USB sticks. As mentioned before, disable umass, and once the printer has been recognise reload umass. Would Linux offer a better chance with hplip than BSD? I tried also with Linux (Slackware 13.0), but hplip version was behind, and that failed. There is also the Ethernet option with the printer, but I need an Ethernet switch or additional router for that, which I intend to order. First attempt to build hplip on the new computer failed due to libieee1284 dependency being for i386 only. Subsequently I turned off that option after finding it was for parallel-port scanners only, not USB. CUPS almost always makes things printer-related a million times easier. Don't forget it's the main printing system in the modern Macs-- Apple manage to make it work with almost anything! Chris ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
