Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-19 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
On 2021-May-19, at 14:17, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-19, at 10:29, Mark Millard wrote: > >> bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on >> Wed May 19 16:09:32 UTC 2021 : >> >>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:24:00AM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: >>> >>> [portmaster background omitted]

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-19 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
On 2021-May-19, at 10:29, Mark Millard wrote: > bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on > Wed May 19 16:09:32 UTC 2021 : > >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:24:00AM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: >>> >> >> [portmaster background omitted] >> >>> If you want to give the attached port a try, it

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-19 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on Wed May 19 16:09:32 UTC 2021 : > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:24:00AM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > > [portmaster background omitted] > > > If you want to give the attached port a try, it will install LUA and some > > > I tried

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-19 Thread bob prohaska
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:24:00AM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: > [portmaster background omitted] > If you want to give the attached port a try, it will install LUA and some I tried ports-mgmt/portmaster, it got stuck the same as make. Unless the new version behaves very differently I'm

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on Mon May 17 23:46:38 UTC 2021 : > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:28:24PM -0700, Mark Millard via freebsd-ports > wrote: > > bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on > > Mon May 17 15:55:21 UTC 2021 : > > > > > The existing conflict between versions of

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread bob prohaska
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:28:24PM -0700, Mark Millard via freebsd-ports wrote: > bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on > Mon May 17 15:55:21 UTC 2021 : > > > The existing conflict between versions of python strikes me as more of a > > planning problem than a software bug. It may be naive,

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on Mon May 17 15:55:21 UTC 2021 : > The existing conflict between versions of python strikes me as more of a > planning problem than a software bug. It may be naive, but I don't see > why python37 and python38 can't use distinct names for files placed in

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread bob prohaska
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 09:37:07AM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: > On 5/16/21 10:19 PM, bob prohaska wrote: > > [...] > > I'd like to see the ports system keep working as it has in the past, but > > that seemingly > > requires a kind of machine intelligence that hasn't evolved yet. Poudriere > >

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread George Mitchell
On 5/16/21 10:19 PM, bob prohaska wrote: [...] I'd like to see the ports system keep working as it has in the past, but that seemingly requires a kind of machine intelligence that hasn't evolved yet. Poudriere seems like a brute force approach. [...] You'll find quite a few remaining fans of

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-17 Thread bob prohaska
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 04:44:04AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > My question, Bob, is, if you are dissatisfied with poudriere, what do you use > for FreeBSD ports? I'm not dissatisfied, I'm overwhelmed. Usually, a simple make -DBATCH > make.log & works. hth, bob prohaska

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread Thomas Mueller
> No real favorites. In emergencies I tend to pick up the telephone. > This doesn't seem like an emergency, and in any case the phone is a poor > medium for a problem like this. There are some ports under /usr/ports/irc, > if you have suggestions I could try one or more. If a phone call

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread bob prohaska
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:24:49PM +1000, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 15/05/2021 2:35 am, bob prohaska wrote: > > > > I've never used IRC, is it somehow better than this list? > > Quicker isolation of root causes over async back and forth. Happy to go over > it with you at your favourite

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
On 2021-May-16, at 15:33, Tatsuki Makino wrote: > Mark Millard wrote on 2021/05/16 17:11: >> On 2021-May-16, at 00:16, Tatsuki Makino >> wrote: >> >>> poudriere jail -c -j main -m 'src=/usr/src' -v `make -C /usr/src/release/ >>> -V VERSION VERSION=\$\{REVISION:Q\}-\$\{BRANCH:Q\}` >>> >> Bob

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread Tatsuki Makino
Mark Millard wrote on 2021/05/16 17:11: > On 2021-May-16, at 00:16, Tatsuki Makino > wrote: > >> poudriere jail -c -j main -m 'src=/usr/src' -v `make -C /usr/src/release/ -V >> VERSION VERSION=\$\{REVISION:Q\}-\$\{BRANCH:Q\}` >> > Bob already does a buildworld based on /usr/src for other >

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
On 2021-May-16, at 00:16, Tatsuki Makino wrote: > Mark Millard via freebsd-ports wrote on 2021/05/16 10:57: >> In the form that I use poudriere I use something >> like the following. I presume here that /usr/src >> is populated and has the source for the system >> involved. (I do not remember

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-16 Thread Tatsuki Makino
Mark Millard via freebsd-ports wrote on 2021/05/16 10:57: > In the form that I use poudriere I use something > like the following. I presume here that /usr/src > is populated and has the source for the system > involved. (I do not remember your describing its > status.) (Omitted below) I was just

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
Something I've not asked about or otherwise referenced is if you use non-default port options for any of the ports that you build. There is: poudriere options -jmain -c -f ~root/origins/main-origins.txt or: poudriere options -jmain -C -f ~root/origins/main-origins.txt where -c vs. -C is:

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-15 Thread Kubilay Kocak
On 15/05/2021 2:35 am, bob prohaska wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:24:06PM +1000, Kubilay Kocak wrote: happy to help identify the root cause if you can jump on IRC (#freebsd-python @ freenode) If sorting out the conflict between python versions helps the community in general I'm willing

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
On 2021-May-15, at 16:37, bob prohaska wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 07:29:15PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >> bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on >> Fri May 14 01:35:28 UTC 2021 : >> >>> Would use of poudriere help with this sort of problem? >>> It isn't trivial to configure, but

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-15 Thread bob prohaska
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 07:29:15PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on > Fri May 14 01:35:28 UTC 2021 : > > > Would use of poudriere help with this sort of problem? > > It isn't trivial to configure, but this sort of difficulty > > has been growing ever worse.

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-14 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
bob prohaska fbsd at www.zefox.net wrote on Fri May 14 01:35:28 UTC 2021 : > On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 01:35:50PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > > You have apparently chosen to build/update ports via a > > technique that requires you to manage the dependencies, at > > least some of the time. (Not

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-14 Thread bob prohaska
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:24:06PM +1000, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > > happy to help identify the root cause if you can jump on IRC > (#freebsd-python @ freenode) If sorting out the conflict between python versions helps the community in general I'm willing to try. I simply use make in the ports

Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4

2021-05-13 Thread Kubilay Kocak
On 14/05/2021 11:35 am, bob prohaska wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 01:35:50PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: You have apparently chosen to build/update ports via a technique that requires you to manage the dependencies, at least some of the time. (Not that when is necessarily obvious up front.)