Re: request for a new port + package

2018-05-06 Thread Kevin Oberman
BTW, Public domain is forever. You can't change it because, the moment it
is dedicated to the public domain, you no longer have any claim on it. No
one has any claim on it. It is owned by the public. Of course, you can
claim ownership of any additions you write, but whatever existed that was
dedicated to the public domain is public forever. Don't think about
re-licensing it. That would be a false claim. You can't license what you
don't have any right to.

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On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Julian Elischer  wrote:

> On 7/5/18 7:03 am, Mateusz Piotrowski wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:22:32 +0800
>> Julian Elischer  wrote:
>>
>> On 9/4/18 7:15 pm, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
>>>
 On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

 how do i place a request for a new port + package?
> the sources for my requested tool are available at
> http://www.t3x.org/files/zenlisp.zip and the author of that tool has
> granted permission to move it from the existing "public domain"
> license to any "bsdl" license.
>
 The package is created automatically once new port is created and
 added to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new
 port yourself, just read
 https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/

>>> It seems to me that the description of what to do to make a port
>>> is somewhat recursive by which I mean you need to understand
>>> what it says before you read it. if you don't already know the jargon,
>>> it is all Greek. (Apologies to any Greeks on the list).
>>> I think it would be a pretty cool project to write a tool that asks
>>> lots of questions and then eventually spits out a port Makefile.
>>> it could allow the user to browse to places and then analyse the
>>> links used etc.
>>> I think the port writer's handbook is a bit intimidating to new ports
>>> submitters.
>>>
>> You might be interested in this: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12921
>>
>> Cheers :)
>>
>> MP
>>
>> great.. when I read it before it was hard to read but
> http://envirobotics.ca/portershb/tools-introduction.html
>
> makes it readable.
>
>
>
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Re: request for a new port + package

2018-05-06 Thread Julian Elischer

On 7/5/18 7:03 am, Mateusz Piotrowski wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:22:32 +0800
Julian Elischer  wrote:


On 9/4/18 7:15 pm, Eugene Grosbein wrote:

On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:


how do i place a request for a new port + package?
the sources for my requested tool are available at
http://www.t3x.org/files/zenlisp.zip and the author of that tool has
granted permission to move it from the existing "public domain"
license to any "bsdl" license.

The package is created automatically once new port is created and
added to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new
port yourself, just read
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/

It seems to me that the description of what to do to make a port
is somewhat recursive by which I mean you need to understand
what it says before you read it. if you don't already know the jargon,
it is all Greek. (Apologies to any Greeks on the list).
I think it would be a pretty cool project to write a tool that asks
lots of questions and then eventually spits out a port Makefile.
it could allow the user to browse to places and then analyse the
links used etc.
I think the port writer's handbook is a bit intimidating to new ports
submitters.

You might be interested in this: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12921

Cheers :)

MP

great.. when I read it before it was hard to read but 
http://envirobotics.ca/portershb/tools-introduction.html


makes it readable.


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Re: request for a new port + package

2018-05-06 Thread Mateusz Piotrowski
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:22:32 +0800
Julian Elischer  wrote:

>On 9/4/18 7:15 pm, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
>> On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>>
>>> how do i place a request for a new port + package?
>>> the sources for my requested tool are available at
>>> http://www.t3x.org/files/zenlisp.zip and the author of that tool has
>>> granted permission to move it from the existing "public domain"
>>> license to any "bsdl" license.
>> The package is created automatically once new port is created and
>> added to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new
>> port yourself, just read
>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
>
>It seems to me that the description of what to do to make a port
>is somewhat recursive by which I mean you need to understand
>what it says before you read it. if you don't already know the jargon,
>it is all Greek. (Apologies to any Greeks on the list).
>I think it would be a pretty cool project to write a tool that asks
>lots of questions and then eventually spits out a port Makefile.
>it could allow the user to browse to places and then analyse the
>links used etc.
>I think the port writer's handbook is a bit intimidating to new ports
>submitters.

You might be interested in this: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12921

Cheers :)

MP
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Re: request for a new port + package

2018-04-19 Thread Eugene Grosbein
20.04.2018 3:22, Julian Elischer wrote:

>> The package is created automatically once new port is created and added
>> to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new port yourself,
>> just read https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
> 
> It seems to me that the description of what to do to make a port
> is somewhat recursive by which I mean you need to understand
> what it says before you read it. if you don't already know the jargon,
> it is all Greek. (Apologies to any Greeks on the list).

That means the language should be simplified (or thesaurus added :-)

> I think it would be a pretty cool project to write a tool that asks
> lots of questions and then eventually spits out a port Makefile.

I don't believe this is possible for ports other that are trivial to create 
without any tool.

> it could allow the user to browse to places and then analyse the
> links used etc.
> I think the port writer's handbook is a bit intimidating to new ports 
> submitters.

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Re: request for a new port + package

2018-04-19 Thread Julian Elischer

On 9/4/18 7:15 pm, Eugene Grosbein wrote:

On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:


how do i place a request for a new port + package?
the sources for my requested tool are available at
http://www.t3x.org/files/zenlisp.zip and the author of that tool has
granted permission to move it from the existing "public domain" license
to any "bsdl" license.

The package is created automatically once new port is created and added
to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new port yourself,
just read https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/


It seems to me that the description of what to do to make a port
is somewhat recursive by which I mean you need to understand
what it says before you read it. if you don't already know the jargon,
it is all Greek. (Apologies to any Greeks on the list).
I think it would be a pretty cool project to write a tool that asks
lots of questions and then eventually spits out a port Makefile.
it could allow the user to browse to places and then analyse the
links used etc.
I think the port writer's handbook is a bit intimidating to new ports 
submitters.






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Re: request for a new port + package

2018-04-09 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

> how do i place a request for a new port + package?
> the sources for my requested tool are available at 
> http://www.t3x.org/files/zenlisp.zip and the author of that tool has 
> granted permission to move it from the existing "public domain" license 
> to any "bsdl" license.

The package is created automatically once new port is created and added
to FreeBSD Ports collection. You can create and submit new port yourself,
just read https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/


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