Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/02/2012 22:17, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the old style default with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 partition and swap. For a user/desktop machine, I prefer one root

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:16:39 +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root. I thought of this fact as such an

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 20:22, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root.

ZFS question

2012-02-18 Thread Denis Fortin
Good morning, On a small system using FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, ZFS is reporting an issue on a pool, that I am not certain is really an issue, but I don't know how to investgate... Here is the situation: I have created a ZFS pool on an external 1TB Maxstor USB drive. The ZFS pool sees little

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/17/12 11:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: Hiya, [snip] We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We want to know if people would prefer the older style default with four partitions and swap when

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/17/12 11:40 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Robison, Dave david.robi...@fisglobal.com wrote: Hiya, A question has arisen with the implementation of bsdinstall in 9.x as opposed to sysinstall in 8.x and previous versions of FreeBSD. It has always been

Re: DNS - slaving the root zone

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers around the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't notice if something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (or zones, depending on what you choose to slave). I

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I doubt a single partition will cut it (I could be

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I had thought... :) There's lots of

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:23, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I doubt a

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:39, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I

add new encryption algorithm to racoon

2012-02-18 Thread aram_baghomian
Hi, I developed an encryption algorithm for freeBsd crypto module. I want to add this algorithm to racoon ipsec-tools for freebsd that it can recognize it In it's config file and use it for encryption connections. I use the 'des' algorithm as a sample and

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to enlighten me? What are the

Re: Adobe Linux Flash (Success)

2012-02-18 Thread sean
On 02/17/12 20:24, Frank Shute wrote: I'd recommend www/xpi-flashblock. You can whitelist sites such as Youtube and the bbc whilst blocking the crappy flash adverts that are a feature of too many sites on the web. Especially useful if you're on a narrowband connection or metered. Regards,

Re: Adobe Linux Flash

2012-02-18 Thread sean
On 02/18/12 01:44, Robert Bonomi wrote: Try: find / -name 'ld-linux.so*' -print (including the single-quotes) If you do _NOT_ get a listing from that, you didn't just delete the symlink, you wiped out the actual shared library, and will have to re-install it. I do get a listing. I wrote in

Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-02-18 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On 28 January 2012 19:54, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using FBSD since 2000 and a Macsyma user since 1976. And done my own FBSD installs since 5.1, I think, maybe a few before.  For those early years I was content to install a lisp and then do my own FTP's, getting

Re: Adobe Linux Flash (Success)

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 23:03, sean wrote: On 02/17/12 20:24, Frank Shute wrote: I'd recommend www/xpi-flashblock. You can whitelist sites such as Youtube and the bbc whilst blocking the crappy flash adverts that are a feature of too many sites on the web. Especially useful if you're on a narrowband

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 11:36, Da Rock wrote: If I may, can I ask a quick question: My main misgivings about ZFS have been speed, ram use, and up till about a year ago or so relative 'youth' (at least on FreeBSD). What would be the minimum ram you would use for a high disk use? And what would be

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 01:59:53 2012 From: Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:54:36 -0800 To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? On 17 February 2012, at 23:21, Robert Bonomi

Bridge wired / wireless without hosting the network - is this possible

2012-02-18 Thread Mark Dixon
Hi all, Apologies if this has come up before but I can't see anything with a quick google. What I want to do is setup a bridge between my wireless network and a wired one. Hostap I hear everyone cry but I don't think that will work because I don't want to create a wireless network - I want

Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different opinion of what should be included and what should not be included. Let me give you a scenario of my setup, and hopefully someone can help me out. My

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com wrote: I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different opinion of what should be included and what should not be included. Let me give you a

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
On 2/18/2012 12:18 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com mailto:juvi...@gmail.com wrote: I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different opinion of

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread RW
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:34:09 -0500 Jonathan Vomacka wrote: teamwarfare.com. IN TXT v=spf1 a mx a:mail.teamwarfare.com a:mail2.teamwarfare.com ip4:66.90.73.80 ip4:216.250.250.148 ~all I wouldn't need an include: or ptr statement in this right? I would told include: was to include OTHER

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 09:16:34PM -0500, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 2/17/12 11:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: Hiya, [snip] We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We want to know if people

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
man hier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: ZFS question

2012-02-18 Thread George Kontostanos
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Denis Fortin for...@acm.org wrote: Good morning, On a small system using FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, ZFS is reporting an issue on a pool, that I am not certain is really an issue, but I don't know how to investgate... Here is the situation: I have created a ZFS

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Story
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: man hier man 7 hier makes no mention of /home or /usr/home at all ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to have said: man hier --As for the rest, it is mine. ...Doesn't mention /home (or /usr/home) once. ;) Pointing people to the docs which answers their question is good. But please make sure it actually answers their

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: --As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to have said: man hier True, but /usr/... was a typical place to find users' home directories, since /usr is mounted when the system goes to

Re: DNS - slaving the root zone

2012-02-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/18/2012 03:23, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers around the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't notice if something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (or zones,

Re: Is the list down?

2012-02-18 Thread Al Plant
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Friday 17 February 2012 08:49:37 Da Rock wrote: On 02/17/12 11:21, Al Plant wrote: I have not seen any action in 2 days. There's been plenty of action in the last 2 days. Maybe check your mail server logs for errors? I noticed the same thing. The missing mails

gpart usage during install

2012-02-18 Thread Robert Simmons
I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same thing in 9.0, but when I get

Re: gpart usage during install

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Powell
Robert Simmons wrote: I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same

Re: Is the list down?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Al, On Sunday 19 February 2012 07:15:00 Al Plant wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Aloha Eric, My missing mail finally come down the pipe over night too. Strange but it has happened before. Thanks for your support. Where are you located? Here in Hawaii we have military installations

No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3

2012-02-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear kind folks, I am getting more and more as to what is needed to keeping a system running in optimum conditions(updating ports userland too). I was just updating ports, but neglecting the new userland tools kernels. I have successfully run make buildworld make installworld, and the steps

Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3

2012-02-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Antonio,  The 'upgrade' from _P5_ to P6 did not touch the kernel, hence the kernel ID did not change.  Going from P3  you should have seen a kernel update.  what do you see if you do strings /boot/kernel/kernel

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even suggest just two

webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and ask for some help :) I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even suggest just two choices. yes, three options is ok. [ ] all in one + swap

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and ask for some help :) I have (I believe I have mentioned this

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 09:30:55 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au To: FreeBSD Questionsfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: webcamd and device numbering

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Carl Johnson
Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com writes: Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even suggest just two choices.

Re: zroot won't mount after 9.0-RC2 - 9.0-RELEASE upgrade

2012-02-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
To follow-up, testkernel mounted fine using the procedure from loader.4th(8): set kernel=testkernel unload boot-conf And the OS upgrade is now done, after a few more tweaks have been ironed out (the most interesting of them is a difference between /boot/testkernel and /boot/kernel, which were

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 11:40:22 Carl Johnson wrote: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com writes: Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questions@**freebsd.orgowner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 From: Da

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Stephen Cook
On 2/18/2012 8:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even suggest just two choices. A normal user will use the first