firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread O. Hartmann
After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not know whether this has to do with the great pixman update, because coincidentally I made bot the pixman update and the update of firefox towards revision 23 slipped

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not know whether this has to do with the great pixman update, because coincidentally

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:24:30 -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi all. Is it possible to install FreeBSD without

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread O. Hartmann
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:50:48 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 10:23:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: I have a 10-CURRENT r255948 from October 1st, with all ports from head too, rev. r328930. FF is version 24.0 in the r328930 ports and the tabs can be moved fine with drag and drop. HIH matthias

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared, including /etc/pwd.db. Thus I was unable to log in. I've been able to regenerate the

Re: Authorisation Errors on 9.2

2013-10-14 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 14/10/2013 06:37, Beeblebrox wrote: Hi, I Inadvertently posted the gnome-keyring bit. That's almost standard error message on FreeBSD-Gnome. The relevant bit for the error is in fact: slim: gkr-pam: no password is available for user However, the user cannot login on a tty without providing a

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
Michael Powell wrote: [snip] The other box is my first foray into the land of GPT, along with SU+J. It was sitting at the 'couldn't mount... Press return for /bin/sh' line. There was an error indicating that replaying one or more journals had failed. I was able to successfully fsck all the

DEFAULT_VERSIONS=

2013-10-14 Thread Jerry
Has the DEFAULT_VERSIONS= been extended to include ports other than python=2.7 python2=2.7 python3=3.3 perl5=5.18 ruby=2.0 tcltk=8.6 as presently shown in UPDATING? Are their plans to extend it to ports like db6, mysql56\*, etcetera? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:02:22 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared, including /etc/pwd.db. Thus I

vBSDcon: October 25 - 27. 2013 in Herndon, VA

2013-10-14 Thread Miller, Vincent (Rick)
Just a friendly reminder vBSDcon is less than 2 weeks away from October 25 – 27, 2013 in Herndon, VA. Online registrations are open for 9 more days and will close on October 23, 2013. On-site registrations will be available throughout the entirety of vBSDcon. Attendees may register for

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:24:30 -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi all. Is it possible to install FreeBSD without formatting the disk? Yes. The installer

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, O. Hartmann wrote: FF is in my case 24, too: pkg info firefox firefox-24.0,1 Have you done updating the ports regarding 20130929 in /usr/ports/UPDATING? I did on all boxes and on all boxes I did the tab-stickyness is present. Firefox 24 allows tab moves for me on both

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:51:15 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: It is possible to mount filesystems manually from the shell and have bsdinstall continue with the install without formatting them. It's been a while since I tried that, and I don't recall the exact details. bsdinstall(8)

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Sierchio
The brutal and brute-force approach can work - better if you boot from a USB stick, of course. You can untar base.tzx and kernel.tzx in your /, with filesystems mounted. As Polytropon says, do a backup of what you'll want afterwards. This approach will leave a lot of cruft (old versions of

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:02:22 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared,

Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina
Hi people, I'm very interested to tuning /etc/sysctl.conf according to the specifications of my PC. I've been reading some guides [1], tutorials [2-3], QA [4] and the FreeBSD Handbook's related section 12.12 Tuning with sysctl(8), but I think it's much more convenient if I contrast it with other

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? On GNU/Linux, on Windows you will not require anything else to recover your data.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? As already stated, those measures are to preserve fs integrity eg meta data is in

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? As

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina
Mmm... just a correction in /etc/sysctl.conf, it seems that by mistake I've copied a website link into the file. Sorry, it was a copy-paste error :) % cat /etc/sysctl.conf # $FreeBSD: release/9.2.0/etc/sysctl.conf 112200 2003-03-13 18:43:50Z mux $ # # This file is read when going to multi-user

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Prove they weren't. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Prove they weren't. Hmm, maybe /etc/pwd.db as David

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:35:49 +0200 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina cjpug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi people, I'm very interested to tuning /etc/sysctl.conf according to the specifications of my PC. As a general rule it is more appropriate to think of tuning in terms of the workload you intend

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Brad Mettee
On 10/14/2013 12:50 PM, CeDeROM wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com wrote: On 10/14/2013 12:50 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Random files can be affected because the sectors of the hard disk containing the

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina
Hi Steve, I use it as a paticular desktop PC. Well, if you need more details about it, please, let me know. What do you think about current tuning? Thanks --CJPM 2013/10/14 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina cjpug...@gmail.com Mmm... just a correction in /etc/sysctl.conf, it seems that by mistake

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't have to run a manual fsck, but just like plain old UFS files may be

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:34:36 +0200 David Demelier wrote: On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: If you are having problems with data integrity you might try gjournal or zfs instead. Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Hi, I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to deal with this easily. What

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On 10/14/2013 7:33 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Or to do a filesystem check after crash..? Are there any flags like that to mark filesystem unclean and to force fsck after n-th mount? That

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Please explain the logic in which this helps anything. Or to do a filesystem check after crash..? Already

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: mount -o sync should be mount sync -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:33 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
Thank you all for good hints! This will come handy! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

NFS locks rpcbind port = 0 failed? - try #2

2013-10-14 Thread Rick Romero
This is a continuation of 9.1 VM nfs3 locks over VPN - trying a different angle maybe it'll jostle someones memory. I now have a FreeBSD 9.2 VM at an offsite hosting company.  hostname nl101vpn OpenVPN is installed on it, routed not bridged mode. I have multiple OSs installed on local network.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Bruce Cran wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't have to run a manual fsck,

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. Journalling removes the need for the background fsck which only recovers lost space. With journalling, it should be able to do a

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
Charles Swiger wrote: [snip] Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. With journalling, it should be able to do a journal replay to restore the filesystem to an OK state, but sometimes that doesn't restore consistency, in which case

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: fsck_y_enable=YES One of the most annoying things about SU+J is that fsck asks if you want to use the journal. So fsck -y wont do a proper check unless the journal replay fails. ___

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 20:08, RW wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:34:36 +0200 David Demelier wrote: On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: If you are having problems with data integrity you might try gjournal or zfs instead. Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 18:47, Adam Vande More wrote: There is no *warranty* as explicitly stated in http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html Aha, please don't play on words ;-). I think you understood I was speaking about the filesystem state not a lawyer issue.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 20:43, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl mailto:cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Please explain the logic in which

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi-- On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: This discussion skirts the critical issue - are files that are not open for writing endangered? No description of the uses of journaling can be considered informative if it doesn't address that explicitly. As a naive

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 14, 2013, at 12:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. Journalling removes the need for the background fsck which only

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-14 Thread Da Rock
On 10/13/13 17:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Apparently that won't solve much. The primary issue now with watching flash movies is the drm - on linux it somehow

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says,

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: I understand why portmaster quits that port. Because it has no choice. It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of ports with broken linking and dependencies? Portupgrade will do this if you

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Mon 14 Oct 2013 Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: Actually, the last time I updated my ports was when I installed 9.0, and I used the

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of