Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-08 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 06:08:24PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp This is

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-08 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 07:45:19PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, [someone] wrote: snip It's *best* to make more partitions (esp for /var) so that if something goes out of control logging, or you just neglect your logs, it doesn't

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Jesse Guardiani writes: How recent are we talking about? In the 5.x timeframe, I believe, but I don't remember exactly when the improvements were made. I recall that soft updates are now encouraged on just about any partition. I've never had any trouble with

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-03-03 18:39, Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's *best* to make more partitions (esp for /var) so that if something goes out of control logging, or you just neglect your logs, it doesn't go and fill up your only (ie / ) partition. Like most *nix OS's, it can be as simple or

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:15:00AM -0500, Garance A Drosehn wrote: I have run with softupdates on for '/' on all my systems, for a few years now. It has not caused me any problems that I know of, but then the way I define my partitions is probably a lot different than what most people do.

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:08:24 -0500 Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: - cut --- In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: not true, during installation

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread Erik Norgaard
Jesse Guardiani wrote: In particular, it seems that /boot MUST be on the same partition as /. This stinks, as now you have to create separate partitions for /usr and /var, which wastes space. You are not required to create separate partitions, but there are good reasons to do so, namely to avoid

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Jesse Guardiani writes: Then why doesn't sysinstall enable soft updates on the root FS by default? Because the root is not often written, and any data loss on the root is likely to have more negative effects than on other directories (often it would be something

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-04 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jesse Guardiani writes: How recent are we talking about? In the 5.x timeframe, I believe, but I don't remember exactly when the improvements were made. I recall that soft updates are now encouraged on just about any partition. I've never had any trouble with it, but my system is lightly

/boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp In particular, it seems that /boot MUST be on the same partition as /. This stinks, as now

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Laurence Sanford
Jesse Guardiani wrote: Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp In particular, it seems that /boot MUST be on the same partition as /.

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Jesse Guardiani wrote: snip snip Anyway, that worked. The kernel boots now, but it prompts me at the beginning of the rc process for the root device. I give it: ufs:ad1s1d Which is my / partition, and it boots successfully. Is it possible to automate this process so that the loader knows to use

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, you wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Kevin Kinsey wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: snip snip Anyway, that worked. The kernel boots now, but it prompts me at the beginning of the rc process for the root device. I give it: ufs:ad1s1d Which is my / partition, and it boots successfully. Is it possible to automate this process so

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Bob Johnson
Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, [someone] wrote: I'm not sure I understand the problem. If you don't want to create more partitions, then don't. You can make an 80gb (or 300gb, or whatever) drive into two partitions - a swap partition (2gig) and a / partition (78

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Ian Moore
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:09, Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, you wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Bob Johnson
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:45 pm, Bob Johnson wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, [someone] wrote: I'm not sure I understand the problem. If you don't want to create more partitions, then don't. You can make an 80gb (or 300gb, or whatever) drive into two

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jesse Guardiani writes: I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp You don't _have_ to create these partitions. They are just the

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jesse Guardiani writes: Doesn't the boot partition have to NOT have soft updates though? That's your choice. By default, it won't, since data loss is more likely with soft updates (anything that doesn't immediately write everything physically to disk creates a risk of data loss). But you can

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Bob Johnson wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, [someone] wrote: I'm not sure I understand the problem. If you don't want to create more partitions, then don't. You can make an 80gb (or 300gb, or whatever) drive into two partitions - a swap partition (2gig)

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 6:24 AM +0100 3/4/05, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Jesse Guardiani writes: Doesn't the boot partition have to NOT have soft updates though? That's your choice. By default, it won't, since data loss is more likely with soft updates (anything that doesn't immediately write everything physically

Re: /boot like linux!

2005-03-03 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jesse Guardiani writes: Then why doesn't sysinstall enable soft updates on the root FS by default? Because the root is not often written, and any data loss on the root is likely to have more negative effects than on other directories (often it would be something like a kernel rebuild). So