RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren M. Lang Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:12 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: FreeBSD questions; Loren M. Lang; Rob; Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? I don't seem

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly improved the entropy generation in the random device in

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:58:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what happens. Part of the problem is that BY DEFAULT the random device

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:02:51AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:06:11AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Another strange thing is that /dev/random should block when it runs out of entropy - it doesen't seem to do so, however. And the device doesen't seem to gain entropy that quickly. No, it should not block because it's not

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:29 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Kris Kennaway; Loren M. Lang; Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:06:11AM -0800, Ted

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:13:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:58:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what happens. Part of

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-03-01 Thread Loren M. Lang
, /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Instead, they are part of the kernel itself. All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple files that take up only a few bytes of space

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:26 PM To: FreeBSD questions Subject: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? Hello, This is on 5.3-STABLE. On my desktop FreeBSD PC: $ fstat /dev

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Instead, they are part of the kernel itself. All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple files that take up only a few bytes of space. They are convenient hook points to use to get to these devices.

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Rob
--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the situations in which one would not want to include them are limited. What triggered my question, was what I

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:11 AM To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? What triggered my question, was what I found in the man page of io

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg

RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:40 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Kris Kennaway; Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X Yes. It seems that

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:58:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what happens. Part of the problem is that BY DEFAULT the random device DOES NOT look at

/dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-27 Thread Rob
Hello, This is on 5.3-STABLE. On my desktop FreeBSD PC: $ fstat /dev/io /dev/mem only shows that Xorg is using these devices. Googling on /dev/io and /dev/mem, finds only Xorg related discussions and problems. I now also have Server PC, that does not run X at all. I'm about to remove the

Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:26:22PM -0800, Rob wrote: Googling on /dev/io and /dev/mem, finds only Xorg related discussions and problems. I now also have Server PC, that does not run X at all. I'm about to remove the devices io and mem in the kernel configuration. Is that OK? Some other