Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 20 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: However, I think increasing the default size to 1GB for / would be a nice addition for the next release That was recently implemented, maybe even for 8.2. It was in there the last time I ran sysinstall, anyway. 8-) _

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 May 2011 11:36:37 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > I will modify my kernel config to reflect that change and I was going to > make a backup ... I'm using the same config from 7.x, only slightly modified > to reflect this machine, that said, how do I clobber the current kernel and > not bac

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:01 -0400, Chris Brennan > wrote: > > OK, I am off now to research how to build the kernel w/o debugging > symbols > > ... then I shall embark on this. > > It should be "makeoptions DEBUG=-g" _NOT_ being present > in th

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:01 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > OK, I am off now to research how to build the kernel w/o debugging symbols > ... then I shall embark on this. It should be "makeoptions DEBUG=-g" _NOT_ being present in the config file. Another idea would be to omit the backup of the old

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:09:43 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: > It can fit, however don't build the kernel with debug symbols and move or > remove the current debug symbol files of your kernel. > > See below, our development box. It has GENERIC with debug symbol files, a > kernel.old and a kernel withou

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:13 -0400, Chris Brennan > wrote: > > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ > > the default fbsd6 layout? > > > > [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h > > Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capaci

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:13 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ > the default fbsd6 layout? > > [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h > Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a496M328M128M72%/

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-20 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 05/20/2011 03:58 AM, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > Yes, the recommended order. :-) > One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ > the default fbsd6 layout? > > [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h > Filesystem SizeUsed A

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-19 Thread Chris Brennan
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Polytropon wrote: Yes, the recommended order. :-) > > First, update your ports/ and src/ trees (e. g. using portsnap > and csup), then compile and install. You don't need any tools > provided by ports for this task. After you've started your > "new" system, instal

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > After much thought, I think my process would be this: > > chsh back to bin/sh (I currently use bash as my primary shell) > logout back in for shell change > pkg_delete -fravd > get new base srcs > portsnap > (re)install desired tools (vim

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-19 Thread Chris Brennan
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: I would advice to do so, no matter what the pkg_delete > command will cause. If I remember correctly, MODYFIED > files will not be touched (checksum test), and a directory > won't be removed if it contains something that won't > be deleted accord

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:29:41 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > If I go the way of pkg_delete -fravd, will it save configs in > /usr/local/etc/ ? I just need to know if I need to take the extra step to > archive that directory beforehand or not I would advice to do so, no matter what the pkg_delet

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-19 Thread Chris Brennan
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jerry wrote: Yes, from the man pages it states it will rebuild all packages and their > dependencies. I simply include the "l" so he would have a log file > available if something did go wrong. > > In any case, I thought it might save him some trouble rebuilding hi

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 04 May 2011 22:51:05 +0100 Chris Whitehouse articulated: > I second Jerry, portmanager is indeed a very effective tool, it's > simple and thorough and probably has as good a chance of fixing ports > issues as anything. Or used to, I've been trying out tinderbox so > haven't used it for a

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Whitehouse
On 04/05/2011 20:53, Chris Brennan wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerry wrote: Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found "portmanager" to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, update yo

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 4 May 2011 15:54, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, ill...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: >> >  is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding  /usr/local/home), rebuild >> > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? >> >> Yes, th

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Brennan
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: > > is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild > > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? > > Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removi

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Brennan
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerry wrote: Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found > "portmanager" to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, > if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, > update your ports tree, and then update you OS.

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: > is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding  /usr/local/home), rebuild > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing the ports (& /var/db/pkg/ as well). -- --

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 4 May 2011 12:50:05 -0400 Chris Brennan articulated: > I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of > screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to > 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades > though every version upt

Re: A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Wed 2011-05-04 12:50:05 UTC-0400, Chris Brennan (xa...@xaerolimit.net) wrote: > I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of > screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I > didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though

A possibly odd upgrade question

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Brennan
I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though every version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them no longer work. So my ques