Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-20 Thread Joel
Suppose I distribute a library that is under my own copyright, yet carries a BSD-like license. Suppose you then come along and take my library, and a GPLed library, link both of them together into a new program of yours. The FSF says that the entire code now

RE: BSD legal question

2005-05-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joel Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD legal question Suppose I distribute a library that is under my own

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-20 Thread Joel
[...] NOT(FSF=GPL) NOT(NOT(FSF=GPL)) Politically, the two are the same - the FSF owns copyright on the GPL itself, they can change it anytime they want - thus the GPL says what the FSF wants it to say. Then why is the copyright on the current

RE: BSD legal question

2005-05-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joel Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 2:40 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD legal question Legally, no, but that doesen't count when the press

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-20 Thread Joel
Legally, no, but that doesen't count when the press is interviewing Eric Raymond for the bazillonth time. And it is those interviews that do the damage, not the legalities. Well, that explains a lot. You know, you don't have to jump either left or right

RE: BSD legal question

2005-05-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Pansters Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD legal question On Thursday 19 May 2005 03:06, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote: I have a rather

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-19 Thread Joel
IANAL, etc. But if we're going into this anyway, here's an interesting point that people tend to dabble about: One common misperception even in the *BSD world IMHO is that if you use and alter GPL code you have to release your work under GPL also. I don't

RE: BSD legal question

2005-05-19 Thread Jan Grant
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Suppose I distribute a library that is under my own copyright, yet carries a BSD-like license. Suppose you then come along and take my library, and a GPLed library, link both of them together into a new program of yours. The FSF says that the

RE: BSD legal question

2005-05-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jan Grant Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:36 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Danny Pansters; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: BSD legal question On Thu, 19 May 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote

BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Daniel S. Wilkerson
I have a rather strange legal question that I'm not sure who to ask of; it is about GPL vs. BSD but not about the FreeBSD project directly. Asking someone at the university is the last thing I want to do. Do you have someone who answers legal questions? It is rather pro-BSD so I didn't want to

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote: I have a rather strange legal question that I'm not sure who to ask of; it I am no Lawyer, but my understanding of GPL vs BSD is more or less.. GPL - You can change the code, but have to give back your changes BSD - You can take the code and do as

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread freebsd . org
Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even give back the changes you made. Although you DO need to carry the accreditation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Joel
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:06:39 -0700 "Daniel S. Wilkerson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I have a rather strange legal question that I'm not sure who to ask of; IMHO, legal questions are always strange. In the best of circumstances, our modern lawyers believe that legal language

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Thu, 19 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even give back the changes you made. Although you DO need to carry the accreditation. Wasn't that restriction later removed too?

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Danny Pansters
On Thursday 19 May 2005 03:06, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote: I have a rather strange legal question that I'm not sure who to ask of; it is about GPL vs. BSD but not about the FreeBSD project directly. Asking someone at the university is the last thing I want to do. Do you have someone who

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Danny Pansters
On Thursday 19 May 2005 04:32, Francisco Reyes wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even give back the changes you made. Although you DO need to carry the accreditation. Wasn't that

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Matthew Navarre
On May 18, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: On Thursday 19 May 2005 04:32, Francisco Reyes wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even give back the changes you made. Although you DO need to

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Matthew Navarre
On May 18, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: On Thursday 19 May 2005 04:32, Francisco Reyes wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even give back the changes you made. Although you DO need to

Re: BSD legal question

2005-05-18 Thread Matthew Navarre
On May 18, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Matthew Navarre wrote: On May 18, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: On Thursday 19 May 2005 04:32, Francisco Reyes wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: BSD - You can take the code and do as you please. No need to even