Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-29 Thread Joseph Lenox
On 10/25/2010 09:18 PM, Michael D. Norwick wrote: I have not looked at PC-BSD because I thought the BSD's were all somewhat similar (powerful, stable, and secure). I only moved off of Debian due to feature bloat and the 'Fedoraizing' it (debian) is experiencing. Richard Bejtlich talks so

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:58:08 -0500, Ian Gibson ibgib...@gmail.com wrote: What's the situation re: PC-BSD? I thought they were 'FreeBSD on the desktop', leaving FreeBSD itself to focus on being a great server OS. FreeBSD per definition is a multi-purpose OS. It can be used on servers (and often

Fwd: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-26 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Oops; Originally sent this to the poster and not the list. Sorry. Original Message Subject:Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:27:56 -0500 From: Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net To: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com

FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Good Day; It is with some pleasure that I have finally succeeded in building an operative workstation with a custom kernel and world, Xorg 1.7.5, KDE4-4.5.2 from ports, most common network applications as well as Firefox3, and Thunderbird 3.1.5. The machine is an older Dell GX270 P4 2.4

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Henry Olyer
The problem here is that it shouldn't take so much effort to get this going. But I know it does. And I don't blame the FreeBSD team. I do blame the organizational infra-structure that exists. ie., we should have scripts that describe every aspect of a computer, so that such scripts can be

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: The problem here is that it shouldn't take so much effort to get this going.  But I know it does.  And I don't blame the FreeBSD team. I do blame the organizational infra-structure that exists.  ie., we should have

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Ian Gibson
What's the situation re: PC-BSD? I thought they were 'FreeBSD on the desktop', leaving FreeBSD itself to focus on being a great server OS. Isn't the whole point of PC-BSD to remove the need to do what the OP did i.e. spend days or weeks installing and configuring FreeBSD with desktop

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net wrote: Good Day; It is with some pleasure that I have finally succeeded in building an operative workstation with a custom kernel and world, Xorg 1.7.5, KDE4-4.5.2 from ports, most common network applications as

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Michael D. Norwick
On 10/25/10 20:11, Brandon Gooch wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Henry Olyerhenry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: The problem here is that it shouldn't take so much effort to get this going. But I know it does. And I don't blame the FreeBSD team. I do blame the organizational infra-structure

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Michael D. Norwick wrote: I spoke a little too soon. I was UPGRADING to KDE4 4.5.2 as I was typing the message. 'portupgrade kde4' was @ approx. 38% when it error'd out on something about 'kdelibs4-4.4.5' too old. Going to /usr/ports/kdelibs4 and 'make clean', 'make',

Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success

2010-10-25 Thread Rob Farmer
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:25, Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net wrote: 4 weeks ago I backed up all my data and reformatted from Debian 'lenny' to GPT/ZFS/8.1-RELEASE.  The next two weeks did not go so well.  While I tried hard to get ZFS formatted drives to work reliably, intermittent