Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Andy Wodfer
Thanks a lot to all who responded to my post. I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x 2TB green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up as a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. Btw. will these drive work better in a ZFS pool/tank

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Andy Wodfer wod...@gmail.com wrote: I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x 2TB green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up as a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. Btw. will these drive work

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Peter
Thanks a lot to all who responded to my post. I have learned lots here. Too bad I have to find another use for my 4 x 2TB green WDC drives I have laying around. Anyways - they'll probably end up as a temp/work drive on a few Windows stations. Btw. will these drive work better in a ZFS

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Andy Wodfer
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to be the same if moving/replacing/card fails. With 'ZFS: do not give it all your HDD'

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 18 November 2010 13:51, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi, I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB or 3TB SATA harddrives.

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 19 November 2010 09:48, Andy Wodfer wod...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to be the same if

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Bruce Cran
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Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/11/2010 10:00, krad wrote: If you already have a 3ware card and you are familiar with them, why not let it do the raid and just plonk zfs on top of the lun presented to the system? Will make booting off pure zfs much easier. There's a lot of duplication of function there -- both ZFS and

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread Peter
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: I tend to stay away from raid cards. With ZFS pools all you need is ZFS and any OS [easily move drives around servers], vs. raid cards have to be the same if moving/replacing/card fails. With 'ZFS: do not give it all your HDD'

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread krad
On 19 November 2010 10:25, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.ukwrote: On 19/11/2010 10:00, krad wrote: If you already have a 3ware card and you are familiar with them, why not let it do the raid and just plonk zfs on top of the lun presented to the system? Will make booting off

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: A few people have mentioned labelling the drives. Its a good thing to do, but take it a step further. Before you put the drives in the system, physically label them with something identifiable (colored sticker, number whatever).

FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Andy Wodfer
Hi, I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB. Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
large harddrives? Freebsd has been 64 bit for a long time. It supports multiple architectures. You want amd64 (yes, even on an intel 64bit) 2. I know that the 3ware Raid controller supports larger drives than 2TB (or was it 1TB?). The Highpoint controller I'm not so sure of, but I've had good

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Andy Wodfer
[snip] 1. Which FreeBSD version should I install? (it must support large drives). I'm currently using the standard FreeBSD 8.1 (STABLE) on several servers, but this is a 32bit version, right? I suppose I need a 64bit version when I use large harddrives? Freebsd has been 64 bit

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
suppose I need a 64bit version when I use large harddrives? Freebsd has been 64 bit for a long time. It supports multiple architectures. You want amd64 (yes, even on an intel 64bit) Thanks! I didn't know I could use amd64 on Intel servers. Then my next questions will be: How about the ports

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:42:14 +0100 Andy Wodfer wod...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I didn't know I could use amd64 on Intel servers. Then my next questions will be: How about the ports collection - does the 64bit version have most of the ports? I need ffmpeg, php, apache, mysql, imagemagick,

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Indexer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry missed the ZFS part. 2. I know that the 3ware Raid controller supports larger drives than 2TB (or was it 1TB?). The Highpoint controller I'm not so sure of, but I've had good experience with these on a few Windows servers and on one

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:51:13 + Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: There's a guide to installing FreeBSD on zfs at http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot . Note that even if you have a 'legacy' BIOS you can still use GPT - if you use the MBR scheme you'll be limited to a maximum

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi, I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB.

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi, I'm going to build a server that's intended to store uncompressed videofiles (where 1 hour film equals about 500GB). I plan on using Western Digital 2TB or 3TB SATA harddrives. Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote: Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB. ... The processor will be a 64bit capable Intel processor and I plan on using a Highpoint Rocketraid or 3ware Raid controller. ... 1. Which FreeBSD version should

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Peter A. Giessel wrote: On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote: Total storage in version 1 of this server will probably be 8-12 TB. ... The processor will be a 64bit capable Intel processor and I plan on using a Highpoint Rocketraid or

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2010/11/18 at 8:44, ryan.cole...@cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) wrote: FYI: I used Seagate hard drives (I hear they are coming out with a 3TB internal drive any day now): Yes, but a 5200-5400 RPM drive, I believe. From the OP: On 2010/11/18 at 3:16, wod...@gmail.com (Andy Wodfer) wrote:

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm drive would be OK. Seems like the green line of WD harddrives use both 5400rpm and 7200rpm. I will use RAID 5. I would stay away from the green series

Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Wootton
On 11/18/10 18:23, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 11/18/2010 7:16 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Harddrive speed is not so important so a 5400rpm drive would be OK. Seems like the green line of WD harddrives use both 5400rpm and 7200rpm. I will use RAID 5. I