RE: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-10 Thread Nelson, Trent .
-Original Message- From: Ted Faber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:59 PM To: Terry Lambert Cc: Nelson, Trent .; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:26:14PM

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-10 Thread Jamie Heckford
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Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-10 Thread Petri Riihikallio
Could you please pick up some URLs with description of all security levels (C-2 and so on) - how to get, who is going on it and so on. Thanks in advance. I read the O'Reilly book Computer Security Basics by D. Russell and G.T. Gangemi sr. The book is ten years old and a great deal is outdated,

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Nelson, Trent . wrote: Oh, and Terry, I think you'd be astonished if I informed you of how many rail control systems in the US and around the world use either Linux or some of the commercial variants such as Tru64 UNIX or Solaris. I rather think they run Solaris. Earlier in my career

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Roman V. Mashak wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 01:07:43PM -0400, Steve Kudlak wrote: project and mucking with the low grade in my opinion C-2 security that Sun OSes had and finding bugs in things like FTP logging and the like. I now do other

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-09 Thread Steve Kudlak
Nelson, Trent . wrote: [Please include me directly as I'm not on the list] Hi, Has anyone had any experience with deploying FreeBSD in safety-critical environments? Has any work been done attempting to certify FreeBSD to any particular SIL? Is there any intention to do such a

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Nelson, Trent . wrote: Has anyone had any experience with deploying FreeBSD in safety-critical environments? Has any work been done attempting to certify FreeBSD to any particular SIL? Is there any intention to do such a thing? If not FreeBSD, I'd be interested to hear if

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-09 Thread Ted Faber
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:26:14PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Life support systems require formal proofs of correctness for code; since neither Linux nor FreeBSD is formally correct, in total, you would need to be insane to deplaoy either of them as, for example, a part of an air traffic

Re: FreeBSD usage in safety-critical environments

2002-10-09 Thread Roman V. Mashak
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 01:07:43PM -0400, Steve Kudlak wrote: project and mucking with the low grade in my opinion C-2 security that Sun OSes had and finding bugs in things like FTP logging and the like. I now do other things so I don't worry about that. :) But it is an interesting issue. I