RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RW >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:40 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > >On Wednesday 21 September 2005 19:00, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net L

RE: Re[2]: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Seibert >Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:46 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re[2]: IE in FreeBSD? > > Lets be fair here. A multitude of companies are

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-22 Thread Bob Middaugh
uestions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > On Wednesday 21 September 2005 19:00, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > LLC wrote: > > >>> On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: > > >>>> RW wrote: > > > >>> Because it's

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-22 Thread RW
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 19:00, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: > RW wrote: > >>> Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to > >>> specify MS Word > >>> documents only. It's a de facto standard. > > I ha

Re: IE in FreeBSD

2005-09-21 Thread Frank Jahnke
> >>> On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: > >>> > > Why not submit your CV as a PDF? > > >>> > >>> Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to > >>> specify MS Word > >>> documents only. It's a de facto standard. > > > I have never gotten grief

Re: Re[2]: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 21, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote: On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: RW wrote: For example, if you are applying for a job, you have to check that your cv/resume views correctly on a real microsoft word. Why not submit your CV as a PDF? Be

Re[2]: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:44:22 -0700, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? Wrote these words of wisdom: > >On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: > >> RW wrote: > >>> For example, if you are applying >

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Jahnke >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:47 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mario Hoerich; >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? >

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:12 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > Sorry, that was a bit harsh to Frank. I was ta

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RW >Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:25 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > >On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: >&g

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread RW
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:50, Dimitar Vasilev wrote: > If you use openoffice and then export to PDF it ok. > If you're able to write your resume in PostScript and then convert it > to PDF that would be perfect solution. > Regards, You are missing the point. I'm not asking for advice about h

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Frank Jahnke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:33 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? > > > >> > >> >One example:

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread Kevin Kinsey
jonas wrote: hi! On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:24:38 +0100 RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to specify MS Word documents only. It's a de facto standard. this may be a bit offtopic :) ... but i think we agree that this situation is not

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 11:19 am, jonas wrote: > hi! > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:24:38 +0100 > > RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to specify > > MS Word documents only. It's a de facto standard. > > this may be a bit offtopic :) ... >

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread Dimitar Vasilev
The standarts we are speaking are per company basis - e.g. West European governments are slightly shifting to Linux as a desktop, while others strictly mention what formats of resumes they accept on their recruitment sites. In most cases of big companies I have seen, they say that prefer HTML or

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread jonas
hi! On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:24:38 +0100 RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to specify > MS Word documents only. It's a de facto standard. this may be a bit offtopic :) ... but i think we agree that this situation is not good. is there any

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread Dimitar Vasilev
If you use openoffice and then export to PDF it ok. If you're able to write your resume in PostScript and then convert it to PDF that would be perfect solution. Regards, -- Димитър Василев Dimitar Vassilev ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list h

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread RW
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote: > RW wrote: >> For example, if you are applying > > for a job, you have to check that your cv/resume views correctly on a > > real microsoft word. > > Why not submit your CV as a PDF? Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencie

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread Ashley Moran
RW wrote: However bad wine is for day to day use, and however good the native alternatives get, there remain occasions when it is essential to use an industry-standard Microsoft application. For example, if you are applying for a job, you have to check that your cv/resume views correctly on a r

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 15 September 2005 02:28, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > As a result the existence of these programs discourages interest in native > FreeBSD programs, and encourages people not to wholeheartedly switch > over to FreeBSD. That would be true if you could download any windows software, run th

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, Garrett Cooper wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 10:58 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: And as for basic apps like wordprocessors and such - well I have to remind you that you yourself already argued in a previous post that this entire scenario of yours tha

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-19 Thread Frank Jahnke
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 10:58 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > And as for basic apps like wordprocessors and such - well I have to > remind > you that you yourself already argued in a previous post that this entire > scenario of yours that your talking about here specifically dealt with > apps that

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Mario Hoerich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:07 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > ># Ted Mittels

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Frank Jahnke
> > > >One example: how do you suggest that complex forms in PDF format are > >filled out and saved on a FreeBSD system? > > > > PDF doesn't belong in complex forms that are filled out online. I didn't say these were filled on on line -- that can be done just fine with OSS or the free Adobe Re

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Mario Hoerich
# Ted Mittelstaedt: > # On Behalf Of Frank Jahnke > > > >filled out and saved on a FreeBSD system? > > > > PDF doesn't belong in complex forms that are filled out online. I use > PDF at my job and we use it for one use only - contracts. A contract > must be in paper with a human's signature on

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Jahnke >Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:58 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? > > >> >&

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa >Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:44 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Garrett Cooper; FreeBSD Questions >Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? > > >On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Ted

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-16 Thread Frank Jahnke
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 22:12 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > >> My opinion on WINE is that it merely harms people who are writing > >> software > >> for FreeBSD. > > > >I often hear this said, but I don't think it is true. > > I saw this kill OS/2. I ran OS/2 exclusively as a desktop O

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Frank Jahnke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:23 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD? > > >> My opinion on WINE is that it merel

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread P.U.Kruppa
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:40 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I run it in a window under the remote desktop port. Of course you need a real w

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 11:21 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Let's quit beating around the bush, shall we? The only vendor that > custom tailors their content to IE and who will not correct gross > HTML coding errors on their website and in their products is Microsoft. > > Everybody else, i

Re: IE in FreeBSD

2005-09-15 Thread Frank Jahnke
Sorry I can't continue this as a thread -- I get this as a digest and unless I'm copied, I can't. >>> My opinion on WINE is that it merely harms people who are writing >>> software >>> for FreeBSD. If I write a wordprocessor for Linux or FreeBSD and >>> try to >>> sell it, why would a customer

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Frank Jahnke wrote: My opinion on WINE is that it merely harms people who are writing software for FreeBSD. If I write a wordprocessor for Linux or FreeBSD and try to sell it, why would a customer buy it when he can just use his Microsoft Word under Wine? Be

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread Frank Jahnke
> My opinion on WINE is that it merely harms people who are writing > software > for FreeBSD. If I write a wordprocessor for Linux or FreeBSD and try to > sell it, why would a customer buy it when he can just use his Microsoft > Word under Wine? > As a result the existence of these programs disco

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-15 Thread Karel Miklav
Yuan Jue wrote: > Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in > FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be > appreciated. I recommend qemu emulator too. It's easy to install, you get native platform and it's not that slow (even usable on a 366MHz notebook). W

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Frank Jahnke
There is also a petition circulating to encourage CodeWeavers to port their CrossOver Office product to BSD. It should be able to run IE. Not tomorrow, mind you, but soon (if the petition and its follow-on efforts succeed, and I think it will). Please sign if this might help you. The petition is

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Merritt >Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:09 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > >At 19:22 14/9/2005 -0700, Garret Cooper wrote:

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Roger Merritt
At 19:22 14/9/2005 -0700, Garret Cooper wrote: On Sep 14, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Eric Schuele wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:55:25PM +0800, Yuan Jue wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 23:46, Matt Kosht wrote: Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wi

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 14, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Eric Schuele wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:55:25PM +0800, Yuan Jue wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 23:46, Matt Kosht wrote: Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run?

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Eric Schuele
Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:55:25PM +0800, Yuan Jue wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 23:46, Matt Kosht wrote: Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. I would suggest

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:40 PM >To: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Re: IE in FreeBSD? > > > >On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> I run it in a window under

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Garrett Cooper
, 2005 8:30 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IE in FreeBSD? Hello, all Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks. -- Best Regards. Yuan Jue It's possible under wine

RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
sd.org >Subject: IE in FreeBSD? > > >Hello, all > >Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in >FreeBSD? What >should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. > >Thanks. > >-- >Best Regards. > >Yuan Jue >___

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:55:25PM +0800, Yuan Jue wrote: > On Wednesday 14 September 2005 23:46, Matt Kosht wrote: > > > > Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? > > > What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. > > > > I would suggest inst

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Mark Kane
Yuan Jue wrote: Hello, all Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks. I don't know if you've already seen this, but the WINE Application DB may have info on how others got it to run:

Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Yuan Jue
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 23:46, Matt Kosht wrote: > > Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? > > What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. > > I would suggest instead of Wine using an RDP client (rdesktop in ports > for example) and

IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-14 Thread Yuan Jue
Hello, all Does anybody successfully run Internet Explorer under Wine in FreeBSD? What should I do to get it run? Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks. -- Best Regards. Yuan Jue ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.free