RE: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-11 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 > From: smi...@nimnet.asn.au > To: son...@otenet.gr > CC: nick.chor...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, M

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:57:44 -0500, Mike L wrote: > all I gotta say is I just spent 3 days compiling gnome2 for fbsd.. > It shouldn't take that long or be that hard/complicated. I recognized increased compiling times since FreeBSD 7. I was told that this is due to much more optimization in the co

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Manolis Kiagias wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering what's required and what's not to get a desktop going.

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Al Plant
Manolis Kiagias wrote: Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > > However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with > > "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer",

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Reed Loefgren > wrote: > > >> >>> Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time >>> (Can't blame them for that). >>> Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it >>> will a

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Reed Loefgren wrote: > > >> Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time >> (Can't blame them for that). >> Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it >> will also provide all essential default settings. >> >

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Mike L
all I gotta say is I just spent 3 days compiling gnome2 for fbsd.. It shouldn't take that long or be that hard/complicated. Most of it was stupid crap that I would of thought should of been taken care of by now. Applications complaining about which version of python is installed, complaining about

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Reed Loefgren
Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time (Can't blame them for that). Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it will also provide all essential default settings. If I might butt in: If the user-to-be wants a working system in 5

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith > wrote: > >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just >> > 3rd p

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 > On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > > > > > However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with > > > "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer", "Kern-Develope

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 > On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just > > 3rd party packages and it seems conf

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-10 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Nicky Chorley wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded the DVD ISO for FreeBSD 8.0 (i386) and verified the MD5 > > checksum before burning. With regards to choosing distributions

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-05 Thread Nicky Chorley
2009/12/5 Manolis Kiagias : >> However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with >> "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer", "Kern-Developer", >> "User", "Minimal" and "Custom". Even the "Custom" option has nothing >> related to Xorg. >> > > That's correct, these have

Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions

2009-12-05 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Nicky Chorley wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded the DVD ISO for FreeBSD 8.0 (i386) and verified the MD5 > checksum before burning. With regards to choosing distributions for > installation, the handbook says > > "If a graphical user interface is desired then a distribution set that > is preceded by an