Am Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400
schrieb Thomas Abthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I
> would encourage you to check out the following resources
while it may be supposed to be stable - it is, in my opinion, unusable.
i tried
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:21:17AM -0800, Bruce Cran wrote:
>
> And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the
> user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of
> people have moved over to using it.
Unix is *very* user friendly. It's just picky about who it consi
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:48:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Aloha,
> > Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager.
>
> XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired.
> It's very lightweight and still
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 01:09:18PM -0700, mdh wrote:
> --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If I need to (re)configure the behaviour of som app or part
> > of the system, I edit the appropriate config file, which
> > takes about a minute or two...
>
> Unless you'
On Monday 03 November 2008 18:08:38 Mark Moellering wrote:
> The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no
> (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of
> Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems.
> I ultimately change
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Mark Moellering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Mark Moellering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:08 PM
>
> The other problems I had d
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop
verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster.
I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it
not working.
Could not change the
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400
Thomas Abthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on
>FreeBSD. I would encourage you to check out the following resources
Stable != Usable
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On November 2, 2008 08:01:38 pm FBSD1 wrote:
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Perrin
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the
> user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of
> people have moved over to using it.
Yes, it appears to be very nice. The programmer in the next cube bought
his own laptop just so he can u
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Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop verses
ms
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:39 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You have to realize that this is the question of every user's
> > individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going
> > deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are
>
You have to realize that this is the question of every user's
individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going
deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are
more GUI-oriented and like somewhat more graphic approach to the same
tasks.
true. that's why ther
> the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?"
> the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze.
>
> If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista.
>
> For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice.
I have to quote some random shoutbox I§vre read a long time ago
Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found
myself slowly but surely converting to minimalism
i.e. the least needed to get done what I need done!
On my desktop FreeBSD this amount to about 6 jobs and for those twm fits the
bill perfectly.
http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm
i prefer fv
A couple of things:
1. It's true -- many users require a gentler transition than simply
giving up the "richness" of MS Windows and moving to some spare,
no. they don't require transition at all. they will not learn, use
kde/gnome/whatever windoze-like thing then will get back to windoze.
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they try to compete and fail. doesn't matter who did what first. today
windoze gui is way more usable than kde4.
this is the only thing i agree.
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I left KDE after version 2 as it then seemed to
go in the wrong direction (more features / bloat?)
http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde2shots.php
In fact, if 2.n would compile on 7.0 I'd have
another look.
Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found
myself slowly but surely converting to m
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:43:56AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
> >that's why i compare it to windoze.
> >
> >and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
>
> You need desktop for Unix (Linux) t
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 05:04:15PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar
> escribió:
> >
> > the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?"
> > the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze.
> >
> > If someone nee
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 08:49:09AM -0700, mdh wrote:
>
> I rather like KDE4. I don't find that it's like Windows at all, given that
> Windows is an operating system and KDE4 is a development framework,
> application suite, and window manager. There're hefty differences there, not
> the least
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:43:54 -0700
Yuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >> Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users.
> >
> > exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you
> > say don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking fe
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users.
exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you say
don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few minutes.
totally wrong. imagine setting up WiFi network. one mouse click opens
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aloha,
> Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager.
XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired.
It's very lightweight and still features all the nice things
you know from a UNIX X environment. Zsers c
Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much eas
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Rolf G Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 3:27 PM
> Yuri wr
Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much eas
and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
why you want unix be adopted by simple users? they already have windows -
perfect for them, and exactly what they deserve
Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanc
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much easier even for
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +
Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (Lear to his daughters Goneril and Regan,
> "King Lear," Act 2, Scene 4, lines 263-285)
>
glyn,
it is evident from lines 283-285 that lear used windoze.
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prad
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good
> look. that's why i compare it to windoze.
>
> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
>
> just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc.
>
> all of
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all?
just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc.
all of them does exactly what's needed. windows management an
El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar
escribió:
> >I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I
> >first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
> >I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
> >
> >Anyone can use it without maj
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
> To: "Yuri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I
first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?"
the answer is no, it's crap
Yuri wrote:
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created
when I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
Yuri
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:12:25AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
> I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when
> I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
> I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
>
> Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
>
> Yuri
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