Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:06:27AM -0400, Josh Ockert wrote: Please refrain from misinformation. But that's so hard for Ted! Kris pgpwWfIEUNikl.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:54 AM To: Josh Ockert Cc: Pratt, Benjamin E.; FreeBSD-Questions; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Logo Contest Update? On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:06:27AM -0400

Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Kris Kennaway
Subject: Re: Logo Contest Update? On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:06:27AM -0400, Josh Ockert wrote: Please refrain from misinformation. But that's so hard for Ted! Hey, I don't even have to try on this one - the lack of updates to the contest website says it all. When a contest can't meet

Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Ockert Cc: Pratt, Benjamin E.; FreeBSD-Questions; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Logo Contest Update? On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:06:27AM -0400, Josh Ockert wrote: Please refrain from misinformation. But that's so hard for Ted! Hey, I don't even have to try on this one

Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 8/31/05, Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... LOL. You guys are brutal. I'm glad I decided to stay out of this thread. Sorta. :) Me too. Especially after I found out who's actually inside the OpenBSD fish/logo: http://www.openbsd.org/27.html :-))) -- Dmitry Mityugov, St.

Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-31 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 08/31/05 09:41 PM, Dmitry Mityugov sat at the `puter and typed: On 8/31/05, Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... LOL. You guys are brutal. I'm glad I decided to stay out of this thread. Sorta. :) Me too. Especially after I found out who's actually inside the OpenBSD

Re: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-30 Thread Josh Ockert
Please refrain from misinformation. On 8/30/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite obviously nobody submitted anything that the contest organizers were happy with. You should be e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as is listed in http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/ rather than stirrring

RE: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-30 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Josh Ockert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:06 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Pratt, Benjamin E.; FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logo Contest Update? Please refrain from misinformation. Please see your system admin and get your

RE: Logo Contest Update?

2005-08-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quite obviously nobody submitted anything that the contest organizers were happy with. You should be e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as is listed in http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/ rather than stirrring up trouble on this list. Whenever this topic has come up in the past on this list the majority

RE: Logo contest status?

2005-07-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
What you are missing is that it is imperative to have this contest judging held in secret. If this was an open contest, with publically available submissions, and a defined end date, then the result might actually have some credibility. As it is now, the obvious conclusion to be drawn here is

Re: Logo contest?!

2005-02-14 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Martin Ibert wrote: Hi, I'm at a loss about whom to contact, since the PR slot on the contacts page only says seat open. So I tried questions. I've read on slashdot that you entertain the notion of running a FreeBSD logo contest. As a long-time user of FreeBSD, both

Re: Logo contest?!

2005-02-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Martin Ibert wrote: Hi, I'm at a loss about whom to contact, since the PR slot on the contacts page only says seat open. So I tried questions. I've read on slashdot that you entertain the notion of running a FreeBSD logo contest. As a long-time

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Stephan Lichtenauer
Am 10.02.2005 um 10:20 schrieb Anthony Atkielski: Joshua Tinnin writes: I don't think that a logo makes or breaks deals, but from a public relations and marketing standpoint a good logo is extremely useful, and the lack of a logo (or a very busy logo that's hard to use and recognize) can be a

RE: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.02.2005 um 10:20 schrieb Anthony Atkielski: Joshua Tinnin writes: I don't think that a logo makes or breaks deals, but from a public relations and marketing standpoint a good logo is extremely useful, and the lack of a logo (or a very busy logo that's hard

RE: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I agree. I even would bring back the issue of a separate freebsd.com website presenting the business case of FreeBSD while freebsd.org is perfect as it is now for people looking for technical information about how to use the system. That

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Erich Dollansky writes: Do above attributes apply to the logo of the most successful software package known as Windows? Yes. The Windows logo is simple and easy to recognize. The full logo is in multiple colors and requires screens to print, which is a bit of a

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Erich Dollansky writes: Do you believe that Windows is this successful because of its logo? No, but the logo accounts for a lot of brand recognition for Windows, as it does for most other products. Simple logos are easy to retain and Yes, after Windows become

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
[In reply to the huge number of misguided messages that have been rolling into my Inbox through last night and all of today.] I don't understand why you people are still battling on the subject. Some less-than-smart person has also started up an online petition which has gotten tons of people who

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 02/10/05 03:03 PM, Devon H. O'Dell sat at the `puter and typed: [In reply to the huge number of misguided messages that have been rolling into my Inbox through last night and all of today.] I don't understand why you people are still battling on the subject. Some less-than-smart person

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Julio Capote
Untrue, I know a NUMBER of emerging graphic artists, who would kill for this kind of exposure, and are much better than any commercialized firm I've seen. On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 21:00 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Dave Wood writes: Once the contest is offically launched, how do people

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Louis LeBlanc writes: No, I don't think this is about printing. Anything that is about logos is also about printing. I can almost guarantee that if this was for nothing more than a printing cleanup, none of this hype would be happening. I can almost guarantee that if everyone involved took

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Julio Capote writes: Untrue, I know a NUMBER of emerging graphic artists, who would kill for this kind of exposure, and are much better than any commercialized firm I've seen. If they are so good, why would they kill for this kind of exposure? The world of commercial art is no exception to

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:37 PM +0100 2/10/05, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Julio Capote writes: Untrue, I know a NUMBER of emerging graphic artists, who would kill for this kind of exposure, and are much better than any commercialized firm I've seen. If they are so good, why would they kill for this kind of

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Greg Barniskis
Anthony Atkielski wrote: I can almost guarantee that if everyone involved took a magic drug that eliminated testosterone, a new logo would be agreed upon in a day or so. LOL ...to which I would add two words: bike shed! I have a great fondness for Beastie; that is clearly not uncommon and

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Jacob S
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:37:43 +0100 Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Capote writes: Untrue, I know a NUMBER of emerging graphic artists, who would kill for this kind of exposure, and are much better than any commercialized firm I've seen. If they are so good, why would

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Garance A Drosihn writes: You've never heard of a startup firm? Perhaps a startup made of recent college graduates? They might not kill for the chance, but if they do have some spare time they might find this an attractive project to spend some time on. People who want to make money don't

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jacob S writes: You make it sound as if the FreeBSD project paid a million dollars for the current drawing of Beastie. No. While Beastie is cute and well executed, it's not professional graphic art. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Technical Director
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: No. While Beastie is cute and well executed, it's not professional graphic art. Here here... Rob. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Mike Hauber
On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:49 pm, Technical Director wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: No. While Beastie is cute and well executed, it's not professional graphic art. Here here... Rob. I have two questions. These are not accusations, but questions and I don't

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Nick Pavlica
Personally I'm very happy that they are changing the logo. Thanks to those that decided to take the plunge to do this! --Nick On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:42:32 +0100, Stephan Lichtenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.02.2005 um 10:20 schrieb Anthony Atkielski: Joshua Tinnin writes: I

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Technical Director
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Mike Hauber wrote: weeks to figure out how to use correct grammar in an announcement or a responce (and even if the grammar is left _so_ wanting, take a look at the archives for this list. It can't be all _that_ bad, can it?) You raise issue with the grammar of tech

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 03:49, Technical Director wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Mike Hauber wrote: weeks to figure out how to use correct grammar in an announcement or a responce (and even if the grammar is left _so_ wanting, take a look at the archives for this list. It can't be all

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
for answering a discussion about a logo contest youre taking a quite wide turn, dont you guys think? On Thursday 10 February 2005 23:34, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Garance A Drosihn writes: You've never heard of a startup firm? Perhaps a startup made of recent college graduates? They might

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Technical Director
and for a personal thing of mine, would you please leave terms like decision makers out of here, i just have the certain feeling that youre referring to the manager type of person, who does not ever go to a serverroom or really look at anything important anyways. of course thats my

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 04:15, Technical Director wrote: and for a personal thing of mine, would you please leave terms like decision makers out of here, i just have the certain feeling that youre referring to the manager type of person, who does not ever go to a serverroom or really

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:13 PM -0500 2/10/05, Mike Hauber wrote: And quite frankly, it doesn't take weeks to figure out how to use correct grammar in an announcement or a responce (and even if the grammar is left _so_ wanting, take a look at the archives for this list. It can't be all _that_ bad, can it?) Who are

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 8:13 PM -0500 2/10/05, Mike Hauber wrote: On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:49 pm, Technical Director wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: No. While Beastie is cute and well executed, it's not professional graphic art. Here here... Rob. I have two questions. These are not

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Technical Director
Oliver, On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Oliver Leitner wrote: im not rob, but thanks, already got one) Oh my that's so ... funny. interresting thought, so its a sweet tasting thing that youd like to drink? (in case i translated jello right, cause this is not my mother language...) Maybe where you

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 10 February 2005 07:13 pm, Mike Hauber wrote: I have two questions. These are not accusations, but questions and I don't want accusations in response. 1. Why was this so hush-hush (ie, Why was it leakable (ie, why the secrecy, if FreeBSD is supposed to be a project where

Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Technical Director writes: Okay Rob, you can have one FreeBSD box, on your desktop... The first time I encountered FreeBSD, I dismissed it because of the name. It sounded like yet another geek hobbyist project, like Linux, and that was something I didn't think should run in a critical