Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups with dump? =20 I've never had a problem with backup (I backup to DAT tape), but I'd feel better if every backup was followed by a verify to make sure the tape is readable. =20 to the ones on disk. Any

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-14 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for a verify? No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second time is different from the first time. : Most places cannot

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
* Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for a verify? No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second time is different from the first time. : Most

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Johnson
On Monday 14 March 2005 12:20 pm, Jerry McAllister wrote: * Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for a verify? No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:47:31AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups with dump? On Windows NT it's just a matter of checking a box. I seem to recall the last time I looked into this on UNIX there was no easy way to

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Freminlins
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:56:44 +0100, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups with dump? With the FreeBSD version of dump, no. You can use the L flag to ensure a consistent dump, though this is not the same thing as

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups with dump? On Windows NT it's just a matter of checking a box. I seem to recall the last time I looked into this on UNIX there was no easy way to accomplish a verify operation for a backup, but perhaps things have

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jerry McAllister writes: Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is notoriously prone to failure. I've heard this for years, but I've never encountered it, on my own systems or on any others. My drives are HP SureStore SCSI drives. Currently I have BASF tapes, and

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 7, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Jerry McAllister writes: The only real thing you can do is to read back the tape and look for a couple of files with fairly high inode numbers for each file system dumped.If you can read them, you can assume the tape is readable. I'm

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-03-07 16:05, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McAllister writes: The only real thing you can do is to read back the tape and look for a couple of files with fairly high inode numbers for each file system dumped. If you can read them, you can assume the tape is readable.

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 04:05:15PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: I'm surprised there isn't just some way of reading the tape and doing a few simple sanity checks on the data (without comparing it to anything). A drive or tape error would likely show on such checks. What you could do is dump

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Monday, March 07, 2005 06:16:04 PM +0100 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 04:05:15PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: I'm surprised there isn't just some way of reading the tape and doing a few simple sanity checks on the data (without comparing it to anything).

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
Jerry McAllister writes: Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is notoriously prone to failure. I've heard this for years, but I've never encountered it, on my own systems or on any others. My drives are HP SureStore SCSI drives. Currently I have BASF

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry McAllister writes: Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is notoriously prone to failure. I've heard this for years, but I've never encountered it, on my own

Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?

2005-03-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry McAllister writes: Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is notoriously prone to failure. I've heard this for years, but I've never encountered it, on my