Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-25 Thread Charles Ulrich
Lowell Gilbert said: > If you think you see specific places to improve the documentation, > please write it up and submit it in a Problem Report. FreeBSD is, > after all, a volunteer project...;2~ That would probably be a better use of my time than grousing about it on a mailing list, so I think

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That phrase -- "ports build packages" is just so right on so many > levels. Except for the literal description of what actually happens. It seems that a lot of the supposed confusion of novices comes from the fact that we don't have a separate word to

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote: > Charles Ulrich wrote: > > > The phrase "ports > > build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the > > misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper > > explanation of FreeBSD package management. > Thank

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Charles Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build > packages? No, packages are indeed built from ports. > That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install', > is it treated the same as any package that

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread epilogue
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT) "Charles Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lowell Gilbert said: > > In FreeBSD, a "port" is a third-party application ported to be built > > from > source on your system. A "package" is a pre-compiled binary of that > port. Once installed, they are both

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Jay O'Brien
Charles Ulrich wrote: > The phrase "ports > build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the > misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper > explanation of FreeBSD package management. > Charles, Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't know

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Charles Ulrich
Lowell Gilbert said: > In FreeBSD, a "port" is a third-party application ported to be built from source on your system. A "package" is a pre-compiled binary of that port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same database, usually referred to as the "package database". Se