Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-06 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:35:34 + Colin Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/03/2008, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything I've every seen about this suggests that amd64 is faster on a few applications, such as mp3 encoding, but generally there is very little difference, on average,

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Aline de Freitas
Em Wednesday 05 March 2008 02:36:33 Isaac Mushinsky escreveu: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems. My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since nvidia-drivers

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems. My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems.

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
On 3/5/08, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems. My nvidia card will

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells whistles. I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But amd64 has more registers which might give some speed advantages. I haven't tested it, but

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote: Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-) Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/5/08, Isaac Mushinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/5/08, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
Thanks. Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards? Do you know if this driver supports Composite? OpenGL? On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:06 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote: Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280)

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:22:35PM +0100, alive wrote: Thanks. Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards? http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=59grp=2 Support for r300 based cards is coming as well. Do you know if this driver supports Composite?

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread aline
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, alive wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
Thanks everyone, based on the info I am returning the nvidia card and getting an R4xx instead (found an X850 for under $80 still sold; seems to be well enough supported). I still want to try amd64; other limitations do not bother me that much (I do not care for wine or win32 codecs).

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread RW
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:47:53 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells whistles. I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Colin Adams
On 06/03/2008, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything I've every seen about this suggests that amd64 is faster on a few applications, such as mp3 encoding, but generally there is very little difference, on average, across desktop applications. Do you have any measurements to support that

amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-04 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems. My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since nvidia-drivers are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not