Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-29 Thread Daniel Marsh
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:13:49 +0800, MikeM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/28/2005 at 11:57 AM Bob Johnson wrote: |Microsoft used to claim that NTFS doesn't need defragmentation. |Compared to MSDOSFS, that's a reasonably accurate statement, but |if you push it hard enough, it will still become f

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-29 Thread MikeM
On 7/28/2005 at 11:57 AM Bob Johnson wrote: |Microsoft used to claim that NTFS doesn't need defragmentation. |Compared to MSDOSFS, that's a reasonably accurate statement, but |if you push it hard enough, it will still become fragmented. = The process of installing Windows on a cle

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Johnson
On Thursday 28 July 2005 03:07 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > From: Victor Semionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > > Why is it unnecessary to defragment UFS? > > > > In normal use, files never become fragmented enough to affect > > performance. In a (loose)

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Freminlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gayn Winters wrote: > > > What I get from reading this article is that if the use of the file > > system is to store lots of small files, then use a small block size. Am > > I missing something? > > No and yes! There is a minimum block and fragment size

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:20:31 +0300 > From: Victor Semionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Freminlins
Gayn Winters wrote: > What I get from reading this article is that if the use of the file > system is to store lots of small files, then use a small block size. Am > I missing something? No and yes! There is a minimum block and fragment size. In this case there were not enough contiguous fragme

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Freminlins
On 7/28/05, Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is it unnecessary to defragment UFS? > > > > In normal use, files never become fragmented enough to affect performance. In > a (loose) sense, files are intentionally fragmented in a controlled way so > that fragmentation doesn't cause pr

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Johnson
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:20:31 +0300 From: Victor Semionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" > > This is one

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread MikeM
On 7/27/2005 at 7:30 PM Mike Jeays wrote: |This is one of the things I find really hard to get Windows users to |understand. They just won't believe that a company like Microsoft would |still be using a filesystem that needs defragmenting if it were possible |to design one that didn't. I often w

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Victor Semionov
> This is one of the things I find really hard to get Windows users to > understand. They just won't believe that a company like Microsoft would > still be using a filesystem that needs defragmenting if it were possible > to design one that didn't. I often wonder why myself - after all, they > m

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Mike Jeays
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 07:54, Norbert Koch wrote: > > How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are > > available > > for this ? > > None as I know. Usually there is no reason to defragment a ufs partition. > > Norbert > ___ > freeb

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 7/27/05, demigor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are > > available > > > for this ? > > > > Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in > > the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% whi

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread demigor
> > > How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are > available > > for this ? > > Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in > the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% which is 92% > when looking closer but reported as 100% by df

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Norbert Koch
> How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are > available > for this ? None as I know. Usually there is no reason to defragment a ufs partition. Norbert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mail

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Konrad Heuer
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, demigor wrote: > How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available > for this ? Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% which is 92% when looking closer but re

defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread demigor
Hello, How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PR