Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Allen
On 6/17/2011 2:48 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Sigh. If you'd ever actually filed a copyright registration or transfer form, you would discover that one needs to get them notarized. (Documenting that a certain document was available and signed at a

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Albert Shih
Le 15/06/2011 à 22:34:23+0200, Thomas Hansen a écrit one of my mates teacher says that unix is free and your system running like UnixWare / SCO UNIX and and that unix is free Do your BSD kernel run the same unix kernel as unixware Take a look : http://www.levenez.com/unix

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net = To Thomas Hansen : CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is CB still the proprietary property of ATT/Bell Labs. unix is a trademark of novell.com. 73

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net = To Thomas Hansen : CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is CB still the proprietary property of ATT

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
free, whereas UNIX is CB still the proprietary property of ATT/Bell Labs. unix is a trademark of novell.com. Unix (note capitalization) is actually a trademark of the Open Group: http://www.unix.org/ It's been owned by them for more than ten years, but it was passed around between

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 14:22:43 +0100 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : MS CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is MS CB still the proprietary property of ATT/Bell Labs. MS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 10:06:42 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS I think the confusion that you all are having is between the idea of RS copyright and trademark. They are different. Copyright applies to the

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:29:42 AM Peter Vereshagin wrote: There should be a difference recognized between own a Unix trademark by http://www.unix.org/trademark.html and ownership of the Unix copyrights by http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 where I'm pass. There

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
is held by Linus. The Linux Trademark Institute licenses the trademark to organizations under a free, perpetual, worldwide sublicense. So, even if Linus were to change his mind and try to start suing everyone using the trademark, (pigs fly first) it would all be thrown out of court

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark I'll surely will when I'll have some to trade ;-) RS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
-- From: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com thrown out of court. Additionally, the source code is GPL, so even if in the fictional world of Linus taking the trademark elsewhere, you can fork the code and call it

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:31:19 PM Reko Turja wrote: In that fictional world MySQL needed a fork and some GPL'd programs have been retroactively made completely closed source, forking denied after taking the issue into court... I thought that Sun reversed that decision in 2008. Can you

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 June 2011 17:47, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:31:19 PM Reko Turja wrote: In that fictional world MySQL needed a fork and some GPL'd programs have been retroactively made completely closed source, forking denied after taking the issue into

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
On Thu, June 16, 2011 12:20 pm, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 13:36:32 -0400 Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : DS RS Copyright pertains to the source code. Trademark pertains to the use DS of DS RS signs, symbols, names, logos, etc. DS DS Source code itself

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 02:22:43PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: unix is a trademark of novell.com. Unix (note capitalization) is actually a trademark of the Open Group: http://www.unix.org/ In case it was lost in the informative explanations

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:20:11PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: But both are just words/phrases, right? Here's an example of the difference: UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, speaking about the UNIX trademark, its applicability, who owns the trademark, and so

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 12:46:20 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : CP But both are just words/phrases, right? CP CP Here's an example of the difference: Good example, it's on-topic ;-) CP UNIX, the name, is a

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
, wouldn't refuse to certify his 'minix clone' in the case it was for free. In his 'Just for fun' he tells he was following by Solaris specs, so the well-known truth he started it from scratch may appear to be not the all the truth in terms of legacy? Anyway the price of 'unix certification

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:29:42 +0400, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: Lawyers are so lawyers ;-) Two lawyers, three opinions. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of June 16, 2011 11:21:34 PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin is alleged to have said: CP UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, speaking Do we need a license to use it? ;-) According to what I recall of my 'business law for managers' classes: As long as we don't

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:20:43 -0400, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: According to what I recall of my 'business law for managers' classes: As long as we don't claim we own it, and only *referring* to the company who does or it's products, no. It's an identifying mark: You can use it to

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Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of June 17, 2011 12:47:45 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: (And note that a pure list of facts can't be copyrighted: The phone book is often an example. It's just a list of names and numbers.) Interesting, never tought of that, but sounds obvious. --As for the rest, it

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 18:20:43 -0400 Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net = To Peter Vereshagin : DS CP UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, DS speaking DS DS Do we need a license to use it? ;-) DS DS According to what I recall of my

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 16, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: And does FreeBSD Foundation own its FreeBSD UNIX then? If it does, did it pay for it? Does it certify its FreeBSD as a UNIX and how much does it pay? The FreeBSD Foundation is a non-profit organization which supports and represents the

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
a program, you'd probably want to say who No I don't. It's just not important to me. Why should I want to? Because you CAN - and in the same statement, you are free NOT to care about it. Software publishing and licensing terms are very different, considering today's software. On one hand

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 07:43:59PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: (The other common case in the USA is road maps. A simple 'lines following their geographic contours, labeled' is a set of facts. One result of this is that most road maps in the US either are missing some minor roads, or have

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:50:40AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 04:07:08 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: It's just a matter of a freedom to speech to me. And to everyone else I believe. Copyright and ownership of creation just makes sure that someone can't express OTHER's

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
biased description. Would you like to rethink the phrasing rape me as a description of copyfree licensing terms as embodied in a BSD License? It's not _my_ interpretation of the license. The term originates from the repeated discussion of the BSD license being not free with the counterposition

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
being not free with the counterposition that the BSD license is even _so_ free that it allows the post-usage of the material - i. e. take it for free, change it, give it another name, sell it for money. If a developer is FINE with this kind of post-usage, he can use the BSD license. Luckily

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
not free with the counterposition that the BSD license is even _so_ free that it allows the post-usage of the material - i. e. take it for free, change it, give it another name, sell it for money. If a developer is FINE with this kind of post-usage, he can use the BSD license. Luckily

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-16 19:36, Daniel Staal skrev: On Thu, June 16, 2011 12:20 pm, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmonsrsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.netwrote: Unless you work the trademark in you have to pay to register the name. I'm not sure by what mean by work the trademark in but every business is entitled to use tm or sm identification without registration. However by

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-17 00:20, Daniel Staal skrev: --As of June 16, 2011 11:21:34 PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin is alleged to have said: (And note that a pure list of facts can't be copyrighted: The phone book is often an example. It's just a list of names and numbers.) Which is copyrighted, all databases

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-17 06:53, Adam Vande More skrev: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bernt Hanssonbe...@bah.homeip.netwrote: Unless you work the trademark in you have to pay to register the name. I'm not sure by what mean by work the trademark in but every business is entitled to use tm or sm

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-16 20:30, Chad Perrin skrev: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 02:22:43PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: unix is a trademark of novell.com. Unix (note capitalization) is actually a trademark of the Open Group: http://www.unix.org/ In EU there are

free sco unix

2011-06-15 Thread Thomas Hansen
one of my mates teacher says that unix is free and your system running like UnixWare / SCO UNIX and and that unix is free Do your BSD kernel run the same unix kernel as unixware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Brennan
* Thomas Hansen t...@danskdatacenter.dk [2011-06-15 22:34:23 +0200]: one of my mates teacher says that unix is free and your system running like UnixWare / SCO UNIX and and that unix is free Do your BSD kernel run the same unix kernel as unixware FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 15/06/2011 21:34, Thomas Hansen wrote: one of my mates teacher says that unix is free and your system running like UnixWare / SCO UNIX and and that unix is free Some Unix is free (the best sorts), others are most certainly not free at all. FreeBSD is pretty much the opposite end

Fwd: free sco unix

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Brennan
-- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net Date: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM Subject: Re: free sco unix To: Thomas Hansen t...@danskdatacenter.dk 'y' and 't' are too close in mutt :( * Thomas Hansen t...@danskdatacenter.dk [2011-06-16 00:07:11 +0200

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Ramu cc questions@ I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. I wrote some notes here: http://berklix.com/~jhs/txt/install_bsd.html Hope it may help you or similar enquirers. I dont see anything about

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse
On 25/05/2011 18:45, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Ramu cc questions@ I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. I wrote some notes here: http://berklix.com/~jhs/txt/install_bsd.html Hope it may help you or similar

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:15:16 +0100 Message-id: 4ddd7164.9020...@onetel.com Chris Whitehouse wrote: On 25/05/2011 18:45, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Ramu cc questions@ I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:45:38PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Ramu cc questions@ I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. I wrote some notes here: http

CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Ramu Chakravadhanula
hi, I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please help me, thank you. Best regards, ramu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Ramu Chakravadhanula boys21cent...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:38:36 +0200 Message-id: banlktinq0y-wkwj7rzrqh08huvquvv_...@mail.gmail.com Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote: hi, I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote: hi, I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please PS did you know 8.2 exists ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich

Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 04:38:36PM +0200, Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote: hi, I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please help me, thank you. The best thing would be to delete Linux off

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Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread perryh
Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: On Monday 27 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to install 8.1-RELEASE, including the corresponding ports tree; then install what ports I can from packages and also fetch the

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:02 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: On Monday 27 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to install 8.1-RELEASE, including the corresponding ports tree; then

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 02:24:26 -0500, Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz wrote: As I understand it: The OS itself is stable, but the ports are constantly in flux and may be issues. Not exactly. It depends on which update road you follow. Say, you use freebsd-update (the binary update), or use

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Michel Talon
Polytropon said: If you decide to upgrade your ports tree because you need newer versions or specific features, it *may* be possible that a certain point in time of -RELEASE is not sufficient, and this might force you to change your road to follow -STABLE. This can either be the case by

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Chris Whitehouse
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I'm advocating starting from a stable and self-consistent baseline, consisting of a release _and_ its corresponding port/package collection, and then considering whether any updates are needed. You might be interested to follow Manolis' custom DVD which is based

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: As I understand it: The OS itself is stable, but the ports are constantly in flux and may be issues. During a FreeBSD release, the ports tree is frozen and port updates are delayed. So a FreeBSD release really does come with with a somewhat stale

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 330, Issue 2, Message: 22 On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:02:29 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: On Monday 27 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Clarke
On Tuesday 28 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: [snip] The problem is if/when you need to update a port as a result of a security advisory. If your ports tree is very much out of date then it's likely that updating that one port

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Clarke
On Tuesday 28 September 2010, Ian Smith wrote: I agree with Mike about the worms :)  I have an 8.0-RELEASE system with many ports installed and quite a few configured to taste with a recently upgraded 8-STABLE world, working through a huge portversion update list, started by fetching over

Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread victor kovacs
Mouse works in text mode in root and personal directories. Does not work in KDE graphics after startx is typed in personal directory. Graphics comes up normally. Using a ps2 mouse. Any suggestions? Regards, victor ___

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:20:49 -0400, victor kovacs slowp...@pathcom.com wrote: Mouse works in text mode in root and personal directories. Does not work in KDE graphics after startx is typed in personal directory. Graphics comes up normally. Using a ps2 mouse. Any suggestions?

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-27 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 26/09/2010 13:30:19, Michel Talon wrote: Matthew Seaman said Be aware that installing the ports tree from the DVD images is not the ideal way to do it ... it is better to ... grab an up-to-date copy of the ports directly from the

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Clarke
On Monday 27 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to install 8.1-RELEASE, including the corresponding ports tree; then install what ports I can from packages and also fetch the corresponding distfiles; and finally build -- from

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Mike Clarke on Monday, 27 September 2010: On Monday 27 September 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to install 8.1-RELEASE, including the corresponding ports tree; then install what ports I can from packages and also fetch the

Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-26 Thread victor kovacs
It appears that all the distfile locations are empty. For example: KDE4 Master site: empty Distfiles: none Extract-only: empty Have the distfiles for the GUI been left out of the dvd? Same situation when 32 or 64 side of dvd is loaded. The dvd disk reader is read only. It cannot write to

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/09/2010 02:50:55, victor kovacs wrote: It appears that all the distfile locations are empty. For example: KDE4 Master site: empty Distfiles: none Extract-only: empty That's deliberate. x11/kde4 is a metaport -- that is, it installs nothing itself, but exists only to hold

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-26 Thread Michel Talon
Matthew Seaman said Be aware that installing the ports tree from the DVD images is not the ideal way to do it. If you have the connectivity on your newly installed system, it is better to use either csup(1) or portsnap(1) to grab an up-to-date copy of the ports directly from the net. I

Re: Free BSD 8.1

2010-09-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/09/2010 13:30:19, Michel Talon wrote: Matthew Seaman said Be aware that installing the ports tree from the DVD images is not the ideal way to do it. If you have the connectivity on your newly installed system, it is better to use either csup(1) or portsnap(1) to grab an up-to-date

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BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities in ports that will let me do this, I am however looking for something in the base system

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Macdonald
On 18/08/2010 16:18, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities in ports that will let me do this, I am

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Maness
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread RW
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:18:58 -0400 Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as Linux free, the memory portion is more cryptic, I guess due

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any particular reason you want to know? Free memory isn't a very meaningful concept in FreeBSD. I have a webserver that had it's Apache killed this morning. The box itself had been stable for several years, as well

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 14:14:25 -0400 Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any particular reason you want to know? Free memory isn't a very meaningful concept in FreeBSD. I have a webserver

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Mike Jeays
as Linux free, the memory portion is more cryptic, I guess due to differences in how FreeBSD allocates memory. Although a BSD free would probably be easier to remember, top -n 1 does the job. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Jason
the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as Linux free, the memory portion is more cryptic, I guess due to differences in how FreeBSD allocates memory. Although a BSD free would probably be easier to remember, top -n 1 does the job

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Depo Catcher
On 8/18/2010 1:06 PM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris manessch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as Linux free

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2010-07-25 Thread Dima Bui
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Re: free software for FreeBSD (JStrack and GTbrew2)

2010-06-26 Thread Chris Rees
? Thanks,   --jim I'm offering to port these for you tomorrow, but first let's sort out your terminology. Freeware != free software. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software Which is it? I'll port free software for you, but you need to let me know what the distribution terms are. Chris

free software for FreeBSD (JStrack and GTbrew2)

2010-06-25 Thread Jim Graham
Question: I'd like to have these two applications that I wrote, and continue to build and maintain as/when needed, and would like to have them listed (no real need for a port, except, perhaps, to make sure Tcl/Tk 8.4.x, various Tcl/Tk libs, and the netpbm/pbmplus/whatever utils are available) as

threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Vikash Badal
Greetings. I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely In a worker thread, I have the following. CODE--- LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst)); free(inst); LogMessage(DEBUG_0, after free allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 11), Vikash Badal said: I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely In a worker thread, I have the following. CODE--- LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst)); free(inst); LogMessage(DEBUG_0, after

RE: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Vikash Badal
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dan Nelson Sent: 11 June 2010 09:56 PM To: Vikash Badal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 The fix

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Nelson
is to explicitly zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being used accidentally later. Made this change: CODE--- LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst)); free(inst); free(inst); return 0; ---/CODE Still no seg fault

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-05-25 Thread Anoop Kumar Narayanan
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (May 22), Anoop Kumar Narayanan said: I think glibc uses asynchronous free, as in it doesn't free the memory immediately.  So even though the memory is free'd its still part of the process's address

threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-05-21 Thread Vikash Badal
Greetings. Excuse me if this is a stupid questions. I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely In a worker thread, I have the following. CODE--- LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst)); free(inst); LogMessage(DEBUG_0

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-05-21 Thread Dan Nelson
)); free(inst); LogMessage(DEBUG_0, after free allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst)); return 0; ---/CODE output allocated 2304 output after free allocated 2304 from playing around, this should have segfaulted but it didn't You're invoking undefined behaviour

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-05-21 Thread Anoop Kumar Narayanan
I think glibc uses asynchronous free, as in it doesn't free the memory immediately. So even though the memory is free'd its still part of the process's address space but present in the free pool and so it doesn't crash. -Anoop On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com

Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-05-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (May 22), Anoop Kumar Narayanan said: I think glibc uses asynchronous free, as in it doesn't free the memory immediately. So even though the memory is free'd its still part of the process's address space but present in the free pool and so it doesn't crash. FreeBSD

Unicode support in Free bsd.

2010-04-08 Thread Kotecha, Grishma
Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open, dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode pathnames (wide characters). If so

Re: Unicode support in Free bsd.

2010-04-08 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? UFS/UFS2 supports 8-bit chars (except NULL), so UTF8 representation for Unicode filenames ought to work OK. Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open,

Re: Unicode support in Free bsd.

2010-04-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2010 20:11:15, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open, dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? for e.g

Re: Unicode support in Free bsd.

2010-04-08 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2010 20:11:15, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system

Re: Unicode support in Free bsd.

2010-04-08 Thread Yury Michurin
UTF8 works grate here in irssi and tcsh over putty, same goes for filenames. Had no problem with it what so ever, just needed to set in .cshrc: setenv LC_CTYPE he_IL.UTF-8 never checked any X applications though. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Thu,

Re: Free BSD Licensing

2010-03-24 Thread Richard Tobin
As the FreeBSD license is less restrictive than the GPL, it's pretty much safe to say that wherever you are permitted install GPL'd software, you could substitute FreeBSD licensed software without legal penalty. (Note: *install* -- redistribution is a different matter) You do not have to

Free BSD Licensing

2010-03-23 Thread jeguelf5
Free BSD representative, I am inquiring if Free BSD is installable under the The GNU General Public License (short: GNU GPL or simply GPL)? Need to verify that for the requester of this software as coming through our subcontracts division. Jack Guelff Subcontracts Administrator Software

Re: Free BSD Licensing

2010-03-23 Thread Gary Gatten
FBSD has it's own licensing. I'll defer to others as to the details, or visit www.freebsd.org - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Mar 23 09:40:15 2010 Subject: Free

Re: Free BSD Licensing

2010-03-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/03/2010 14:40:15, jegue...@rockwellcollins.com wrote: Free BSD representative, I am inquiring if Free BSD is installable under the The GNU General Public License (short: GNU GPL or simply GPL)? Need to verify that for the requester

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