Installation : CD drive not detected

2003-11-21 Thread sundeep.puliccott

Hi all,
I am trying to install the FreeBSD 4.8 Release on a i386 m/c.
I have burnt the iso images onto a CD.

My problem
The m/c boots uncompressing the kernel and takes me thru the
menu. While choosing the installation Media I get the message
No CD/DVD devices found

while searching on the web I found one mail which mentioned problems
with FreeBSD and ATA, ATAPI.
The workaround provided was where in has to
set hw.ata.ata_dma=1
set hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

but  still I could not choose the CD as the installation media?

Need help in getting around this problem

-sundeep



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Re: Which webmail

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Faircliff
Hello,

Me too. Squirrelmail using courier IMAP does the trick nicely. And
fast too!

Matt.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:34:36PM +, Jake Stride wrote:
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:34:36 +
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On Wednesday, Nov 19, 2003, at 17:27 Europe/London, Vince Hoffman wrote:

Hi all,

I'm considering installing a webmail system on one of my 
machines. Its internet facing, so i'd prefer security over features if 
its an issue. The machine in question is running 4.8, uw-imap, postfix 
and apache 2.0.47

Does anyone have any suggestions, experience they would like to share ?

Thanks.

Vince
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I'd have to say Squirrel Mail

http://www.squirrelmail.org/

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FreeBSD 5.1 on ASUS P4C800 (onboard NIC problems, 3Com 3C940) (a solution)

2003-11-21 Thread Krad Yusuf KONU
I know there is no support 3c940 nic with FreeBSD 5.1 version. But
it is added later. I look at the CVS. In FreeBSD 5.1 the driver version
of the sk is 1.59 (if_sk.c). But 3c940 support added to sk with version
1.65. So i take the 1.65.
then i put these files to kernel and i compile itl. Now i am happy with
my 3c940 on FreeBSD 5.1.

you can download if_sk.c  1.65 version from
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/pci/if_sk.c . But it
depend to 2 other files (if_skreg.h and yukonreg.h) so you must download
they also.

Steps
---
   (+)download if_sk.c version 1.65 -
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/pci/if_sk.c?rev=1.64content-type=text/plain

(+)download if_skreg.h version 1.16 -
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/pci/if_skreg.h?rev=1.16content-type=text/plain

(+)download yukonreg.h version 1.1 -
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/pci/yukonreg.h?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

   (+) backup your orginal files which are in /usr/src/sys/pci/
mv  /usr/src/sys/pci/if_sk.c /usr/src/sys/pci/if_sk.c.orig
mv  /usr/src/sys/pci/if_skreg.c /usr/src/sys/pci/if_skreg.h.orig

mv  /usr/src/sys/pci/yukonreg.h /usr/src/sys/pci/yukonreg.h.orig

(+) copy your downloaded files to /usr/src/sys/pci/
cd
/floppy/ #I
guess that
cp if_sk.c if_skreg.h yukonreg.h /usr/src/sys/pci/

(+) Now you can compile kernel
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/
config GENERIC
cd ../compile/GENERIC
make depend
make
make install

(+) reboot the system
reboot
(+) if everything ok you can see your sk driver with 3c940


Krad Yusuf KONU

KYK
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Re: hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-21 Thread Rob
My non-technical understanding:

* A BSD system has a fully qualified domain name that is set and
retrieved by the hostname(1) command. This is normally defined in
/etc/rc.conf and considered the 'true name' of the system. If this name
does not resolve to an IP address, many network services will complain
(such as sendmail). If this IP address is not configured on an interface
on the system, many things will get confused (such as routing).

* You can also configure other interfaces, either on extra network cards
or using the alias option of ifconfig(8). These interfaces should have
different IP addresses, and names are optional (but convenient).

* Any IP address can have extra names, either in /etc/hosts or on a
nameserver. The 'canonical' name should probably come first.

Your average BSD system will have 1 hostname that resolves to 1 address
configured on its single network interface. The /etc/hosts file will map
this address to the FQ hostname, and probably also to the short version
for convenience.

It will also have the name localhost, resolving to 127.0.0.1 and
configured on lo0, again using /etc/hosts for resolution.

Anything beyond that is up to you...

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From: paul van den bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: hostnames and interfaces


 hey all,
 I first encountered networking in CISCO land... where IP addresses and
host
 names seem to be associated...

 what is the freeBSD way?  AFAICS, a machine has a defined name
regardless of
 howmany interfaces it has.  if one splits the world up into hosts (one
 interface) and routers (multiple interfaces) can one define multiple
 hostnames?

 to expand on this, there is a potential many to many relationship here
between
 host names and IP addresses (strickly speaking that is what dns etc
sees?)

 how dose BSD define this? how does one define this using BSD?


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Re: How can I set a password from STDIN?

2003-11-21 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:42:54AM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone know how can I set or change a password from STDIN? Neither
 passwd or pw seem to accept STDIN.

Use the -h 0 option for pw(8). Check the man pages for more details.
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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-21 Thread Rahul Fernandez
Hi, I shall certainly try installing a port instead. I am rather new
to FreeBSD and am unclear as to how I can obtain new packages. When I
run sysinstall, it does not offer new packages. Does that mean that
the new packages are not meant to be installed? Or is it the case
that I need to reconfigure it so that it looks in the correct place?
If the latter, does sysinstall or pkg_add know to deleter the old
version before installing the new one. Thanks for the replies. -Rahul
--- paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Nov 20, 2003, at 5:06 PM, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 
  Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
  installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However,
 this
  package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the
 package
  from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
  release?
 
 why not install it from a port? I use packages as a last resort,
 and go 
 with ports first.
 


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Restricting SSH access to only a users home directory.....

2003-11-21 Thread shrikant

Hi there ,

 Can any body tell me how i can restrict an user SSH  to his own home directory .
 I am using FreeBSD OpenSSH_2.9 FreeBSD  SSH protocols 1.5/2.0 .

 Any links or  help will be appriciated

Shrikant



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No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Rahul Fernandez
Hi, I have set up my sound card and am able to hear sound through it
when playing mp3 files with xmms. I have the cd plugin for xmms and
have, I believe, correctly configured it. The songs on the cd appear
in the xmms playlist and a song appears to be playing but I hear
nothing. I have checked the mixer levels with aumix and everything
seems fine. I have also tried to play a cd using cdcontrol. Again,
the cd drive appears to be playing but I hear nothing. The cd player
works works fine under linux and windows. If it is relevant, it is a
dvd/cd rom combo drive (Lite-on). If anybody has any insght, it would
be most appreciated! Thanks, Rahul

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Re: hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:17:30PM +1100, paul van den bergen wrote:

 I first encountered networking in CISCO land... where IP addresses and host 
 names seem to be associated...
 
 what is the freeBSD way?  AFAICS, a machine has a defined name regardless of 
 howmany interfaces it has.  if one splits the world up into hosts (one 
 interface) and routers (multiple interfaces) can one define multiple 
 hostnames?
 
 to expand on this, there is a potential many to many relationship here between 
 host names and IP addresses (strickly speaking that is what dns etc sees?)
 
 how dose BSD define this? how does one define this using BSD?

Good question.  Yes, this can be a problem with a multi-homed host:
not really in any functional sense, but for organizational purposes.

Any machine will have a hostname -- that is the name which gets
printed in shell prompts and that the system uses by default to
identify itself for such services as SMTP servers, LDAP, NIS, HTTP
etc.  The hostname is set by (surprise, surprise) the hostname(1)
command using the data from /etc/rc.conf.  This is generally recorded
in /etc/hostnames, possibly with the names of various other local
machines around the place because that's the one lookup system that's
always available even when the network isn't up. But /etc/hostnames
doesn't have to be used at all: I generally prefer to have the DNS be
*the* unique data source for this sort of thing, so my /etc/hostnames
files are pretty skeletal.

Relying on the DNS leads to the use of hierarchical domain names and
yet another religious argument: if the FQDN is 'foo.example.com' do
you set the hostname to just 'foo' or do you use the fully qualified
domain name as the hostname?  The problem with using just 'foo' is
that there is no general mechanism for telling the system what the
rest -- the 'network part' of the name -- should be.[1] As good
sys-admins we should be allergic even to the possibility of things
going horribly wrong, and using the FQDN as the hostname closes off
several potential trouble spots.

However using the hostname as the default for all of the various
services is generally only a convention. Those services can usually be
configured to use whatever names you may imagine: role based names
(www.example.com) are fairly common -- which is useful if you need to
swap out machines for maintenance as you can just switch the role-name
to an alternative server fairly simply.  This also allows you to run
'virtual' servers: multiple instances of the same service on one
machine.

Since these services are generally networked based, they have to have
an IP number associated with them: most of the time a CNAME record in
the DNS will do, but some things like SMTP MXes or HTTPS virtual hosts
need real A records.

Now, most of this discussion has implicitly assumed that we're using a
machine with a single network interface and just one IP number.  For a
big server, that's probably not going to be the case -- there may well
be several IP numbers configured on a single interface (have to do
this for eg. hosting multiple HTTPS virtual hosts on one machine) or
several network interfaces, either to provide redundancy against
failure of network kit or to allow the machine to have direct
connections to several physical networks.

In this case, it's perfectly reasonable to have all of:

* the machine hostname as an A record configured in the DNS to
  return a list of all of the interface IP numbers, and
  corresponding PTR records.

* individual domain names as A records that resolve to each of the
  IP numbers on the interfaces, or to the principal address on
  each interface, or to per-network IP numbers, and corresponding
  PTR records: together with the above, this means that looking up
  the IP number can return several hostnames.

* role based names that can include all combinations of all of the
  above, either as A+PTR combinations or as CNAMES.

Having several host names resolving to the same IP number is not a
problem.  Of course, being good DNS admins we will set up PTR records
to do the inverse lookups.  Personally I feel that having PTR records
that return several domain names is perfectly valid, but there's various
old documentation that insists the sky will fall if you do things like
that.[2]

In summary the whole relationship between host and domain names and IP
numbers is defined by whatever works for you...

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] There was for a long time a confusion between the NIS domain name
and DNS based names, especially on Solaris machines. However NIS and
DNS are separate systems and don't have to use the same domain
structure at all.  Nowadays LDAP is taking over from NIS, and again
this has it's own hierarchical structure although one increasingly
popular layout is to mimic the DNS hierarchy.  The default domain or
search path in /etc/resolv.conf is sort of going in the right
direction, but there's no rule that says 

Re: FreeBSD beside WinXP

2003-11-21 Thread ogautherot

Kent Stewart écrit:

 If you want to pass large files, you need something you can write to
 from FreeBSD. You can read but not write to NTFS. I have a number of
 multi-boot machines and I almost always have that much in one partition
 that is FAT32.

To solve the problem, I loaded WinXP in a FAT32 partition, which I
incidently use as a temporary storage between systems when necessary.
This way, I have only 1 MS partition...
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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:53:49AM -0800, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 Hi, I shall certainly try installing a port instead. I am rather new
 to FreeBSD and am unclear as to how I can obtain new packages. When I
 run sysinstall, it does not offer new packages. Does that mean that
 the new packages are not meant to be installed? Or is it the case
 that I need to reconfigure it so that it looks in the correct place?
 If the latter, does sysinstall or pkg_add know to deleter the old
 version before installing the new one. Thanks for the replies. -Rahul

The secret is that once you've installed the system, put away
sysinstall(1).  Learn how to use the system level commands for
installing packages -- particularly pkg_add(1).  Even better, use the
ports tree.  This may sound terrifying to the uninitiated: what, you
mean I should compile all this stuff from source?! but that's the
beauty of the ports system.  It reduces doing all that right down to
typing make install in the appropriate directory.  It's all
explained in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

While you're there, read about the two essential packages for managing
your system: cvsup(1) and portupgrade(1) (use
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi if you haven't already installed
those ports) and then congratulate yourself in choosing (IMHO) the
most maintainable computer system available bar none.

Cheers,

Matthew

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FreeBSD 5.x-R CDROM Installation Hang

2003-11-21 Thread Nihilist
Hello,

I've been trying to install FreeBSD 5.1-R from the official 4 CD set.
The problem I'm about to describe occurs with 5.0-R too. Incidentally,
everything is fine with the 4.x-R CDs (no hang, no lsdev problem,
perfect installation).

I insert the first CD and the loader kicks in. It doesn't matter
whether or not ACPI is enabled (which my system supports); I get the
same result either way: the box hangs after the little spinning bar,
which appears after the 5.1 menu (or after the 'boot' command from the
loader prompt), has spun a few times. No error messages, no copyright
+ kernel banner, nothing. This occurs in all boot modes... default, no
acpi, safe, single user.

I've tried playing with BIOS settings. I've tried dropping to the
loader prompt (5.1 menu option 6) and playing with device hints via
the 'show' and 'set' commands, but all the generic settings (irqs,
ports, etc.) seem to be fine.

One thing to note is that issuing 'lsdev' at the loader prompt causes
a reboot, apparently after it tries to gather information about BIOS
Disk 2 (which seems to be the CDROM). This is strange because it has
already reported on the CDROM as cd0.

BTX reports:

cd0 = CDROM
Bios Disk 0 = floppy disk (A)
Bios Disk 1 = hard disk (C)
Bios Disk 2 = CDROM (D)

Notice the overlap for CDROM. The 'lsdev' reboot seems to occur when
it tries to check the CDROM a second time.

The parameters 'currdev' and 'loaddev' have the default value 'cd0:'.
Changing 'currdev' to 'disk2:' and typing 'boot' causes an abrupt
reboot. This seems to further indicate that the problem lies in the
drive assignment somewhere.

I have the hard disk attached to IDE#1 Primary. The ATAPI CDROM is
attached to IDE#2 Slave.

I can't boot from floppies and try to install from the CD because I
get a read error with kern.flp (that was dd'd or fdimage'd).

I've never encountered problems so early in the installation process
before.

Any help in solving this nightmare is appreciated.

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HD error: BAD SUPER BLOCK

2003-11-21 Thread Robert Neumann
Hello there,

this is the problem:
I had a machine running FreeBSD 4.7-Stable. There I added a 80GB 
harddisk. This harddrive I wanted to install on my other machine running 
FreeBSD 4.9-Release. This disk is ad6 so I added

	/dev/ad6	/storage	ufs	rw	2	2

to fstab and rebooted.

While booting the kernel the following error came up:
...
/dev/ad6: BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
/dev/ad6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
...
THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY
/dev/ad6 (/storage)
automatic file system check failed . .  help!
Enter full path name of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
I hit Return and type
fsck
which give this output:
...
** /dev/ad6
BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
/dev/ad6; NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused)
I searched the intenet and found this way:
fsck -b 32
which gives this output for /dev/ad6:
...
BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
Now I tried another way I found on the net:

	dd if=/dev/ad6 skip=32 of=/dev/ad6 seek=16 bs=512 count=16

which gives this output:
16+0 records in
16+0 records out
8192 bytes transferred in 0.024632 secs (332576 bytes/sec)
when I want to leave the shell there are still errors until I remove the 
added line in /etc/fstab.

the output of
fdisk -t ad6
is the following:
...
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 160071597 (78159 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
...
the output of /stand/sysinstall -Configure-Fdisk-ad6 is:

Offset  Size(ST)  END   Name   PType  Desc   Subtype  Flags
0 63   62 - 6   unused   0  
63 160071597160071659   ad6s1   3   freebsd  165  C
160071660  14868160086527 - 6   unused   0  
I don't know what is wrong but I don't want to lose the data.

Any hint is appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
Robert
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Re: FreeBSD beside WinXP

2003-11-21 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 21 November 2003 01:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kent Stewart écrit:
  If you want to pass large files, you need something you can write to
  from FreeBSD. You can read but not write to NTFS. I have a number of
  multi-boot machines and I almost always have that much in one partition
  that is FAT32.

 To solve the problem, I loaded WinXP in a FAT32 partition, which I
 incidently use as a temporary storage between systems when necessary.
 This way, I have only 1 MS partition...

On a single user system that is probably ok but you don't have the security 
that NTFS has built into it. You make it easier one way and lose protection 
in the other. I don't like the idea of a regular user having administrator 
privlidges. Running as administrator on XP carries the same risk that running 
as root does on Unix.

The NTFS, I think, really supports the long names that are common to the 
registry and FAT32 has to use an alternate way of deal with long names. That 
is why you see the funky names with embedded ~ tildes.

Kent

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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Bert Lagaisse
Rahul Fernandez wrote:

Hi, I have set up my sound card and am able to hear sound through it
when playing mp3 files with xmms. I have the cd plugin for xmms and
have, I believe, correctly configured it. The songs on the cd appear
in the xmms playlist and a song appears to be playing but I hear
nothing. I have checked the mixer levels with aumix and everything
seems fine. I have also tried to play a cd using cdcontrol. Again,
the cd drive appears to be playing but I hear nothing. The cd player
works works fine under linux and windows. If it is relevant, it is a
dvd/cd rom combo drive (Lite-on). If anybody has any insght, it would
be most appreciated! Thanks, Rahul
Maybe a common mistake:

Is there an audio cable between the drive and the soundcard ?

That is necessary to play cdda.

I don't know the exact specs but your cd-drive sends the sound kinda 
directly to your soundcard. So that cable is necessary

Greetz



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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Bernard El-Hagin
You wrote:

[...]

Maybe a common mistake:

Is there an audio cable between the drive and the soundcard ?

That is necessary to play cdda.

I don't know the exact specs but your cd-drive sends the sound kinda 
directly to your soundcard. So that cable is necessary


But he said it worked correctly under Linux, so that can't be it. Unless
he was wrong and it *didn't* work correctly under Linux, of course. :)


Cheers,
Bernard

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Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 21 November 2003 01:14 am, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 Hi, I have set up my sound card and am able to hear sound through it
 when playing mp3 files with xmms. I have the cd plugin for xmms and
 have, I believe, correctly configured it. The songs on the cd appear
 in the xmms playlist and a song appears to be playing but I hear
 nothing. I have checked the mixer levels with aumix and everything
 seems fine. I have also tried to play a cd using cdcontrol. Again,
 the cd drive appears to be playing but I hear nothing. The cd player
 works works fine under linux and windows. If it is relevant, it is a
 dvd/cd rom combo drive (Lite-on). If anybody has any insght, it would
 be most appreciated! Thanks, Rahul


Look at chapter 16 in the Handbook. There are some things that you have to do, 
such as add device pcm or others to your kernel before you can have sound.

I have a black Lite-on in my test server and it worked just fine after I 
configured xmcd to use /dev/acd0c.

Kent

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Changes to /etc/login.conf ignored

2003-11-21 Thread a
Hi,

I'm seeing somewhat strange behavior in my 4.9 System: 

Seems like any changes I make to /etc/login.conf get silently ignored. 

Here's what I've done:

I wanted to set an environment varialbe LC_CTYPE in /etc/login.conf
like this

:setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES,LC_CTYPE=de_AT.ISO8859
+-1:\

Then I did a 

# cap_mkdb -v /etc/login.conf
cap_mkdb: 9 capability records
#

but for any user logging in LC_CTYPE isn't set.

Next I tried to set some abitrary env-variable in /etc/login.conf -
again that variable is not set - for none of the users.

As a last test I changed the original setenv-line in /etc/login.conf
to list FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=NO instead of the original YES - again
upon login every user still has passive-mode YES.

Just to be sure I even renamed/moved any shell-init files of the users
out of the way, including ~/.login_conf - didn't change a thing
either. Every change I make to /etc/login.conf gets silently ignored...

Thanks in advance for any clue,
-ewald

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Staying current with 4.9 - which supfile?

2003-11-21 Thread a
Hi,

In order to keep a 4.9 system current - do I need to use the
standard-supfile or stable-supfile with cvsup?

A diff between the two shows the only real difference being:

$ diff standard-supfile stable-supfile
.
.
.
54c71,73
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_9
---
 # The following line is for 4-stable.  If you want 3-stable or 2.2-stable,
 # change RELENG_4 to RELENG_3 or RELENG_2_2 respectively.
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4

So which supfile is the one to go?

TIA for your help,
-ewald
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Re: Updating w. sysinstall (was: Security question)

2003-11-21 Thread Mark Weinem
Hi Kevin!

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Kevin McKay wrote:

 So it will not just grab the latest patched binaries for 5.1? 

Correct.


 Is it just for updating between releases and not
 for keeping the current release up to date?

...also correct, just updating between releases.


Greetings, Mark
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Re: Information about /dist

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Risdon
olgav wrote:

During the freebsd5.0 mounting I trying mounting DOS partion ,
but got the messege  error mounting /dev/ad0s1 on /dist : no such 
file or directory (2).
 

Do you have a directory called /dist already set up to use as a mount point?

PWR

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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Risdon
Mike Loiterman wrote:

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Is it possible or advisable to downgrade to stable or release from
current?  I'm running 5.1-current now, but I'm think I should
probably switch to stable if possible.
 

I just moved from 5.1-current to 5.1 release, and fixed a lot of 
problems on a horribly unstable box by doing so. I believe downgrading 
to stable is very awkward, but others will be better qualified to 
discuss that than I am.

I used *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_1 in my cvsup file, cvsupped, 
made world, made kernel, installed kernel, rebooted, installed world, 
rebooted. No problems at all.

PWR.



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DMA issue caused crash and file system inconsistency

2003-11-21 Thread Bert Lagaisse
Hi,

I did some stupid newbie things:

I have 2 cdroms, a plextor 8/4/32A and a 50x aopen cdrom.

I added the line hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 to loader.conf
The plextor now uses WDMA2
The aopen cdrom still uses PIO4 (dma worked under wintendo 2000)
After I tried to enable DMA (using atacontrol) on my aopen cdrom and 
mounted it, the system crashed (freebsd 4.9-RELEASE)

result :

During the reboot i got an error and had to run fsck

I did, and answered yes to all the questions. (kinda stupid, I know)

The system booted but startx couldn't find /var/log/XFree86.0.log
It seems that /var/log was completely removed
mkdir log in /var solved the problem

What else can I expect after a file system inconsistency ?

And how do I solve the cdrom DMA problem ?



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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:50:09AM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote:

 Is it possible or advisable to downgrade to stable or release from
 current?  I'm running 5.1-current now, but I'm think I should
 probably switch to stable if possible.

Down... -- er -- regrading to STABLE is certainly possible, but not
what most people would think of as easy.  One major stumpling block is
that UFS2 in 5-CURRENT isn't supported in 4-STABLE, so unless you
happened to specifically create all of your 5.x filesystems using the
old UFS, you're going to have to wipe and re-install loads of stuff.

If you do decide to jump to 4.9-STABLE then probably the simplest way
to do things is to backup any data you need to save, make notes about
exactly how you've configured your system, what ports you have
installed and all the other customizations you've done, and then just
re-install 4.9-STABLE from scratch.

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Re: Staying current with 4.9 - which supfile?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:27:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In order to keep a 4.9 system current - do I need to use the
 standard-supfile or stable-supfile with cvsup?

That depends on whether you want 4.9-STABLE (stable-supfile), which is
the latest incarnation of the 4-STABLE branch, or whether you want
4.9-RELEASE-pX (standard-supfile) which is the 4.9-RELEASE system plus
security patches only.

4-STABLE receives new functionality, upgrades to software and so
forth.  4.9-RELEASE doesn't.  4-STABLE is what I'd recommend to a home
or hobby user, or for someone's workaday desktop machine.  4.9-RELEASE
is what I'd recommend for a critical server that absolutely has to
keep running 24x7.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: install problem

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a problem when trying to install FreeBSD 5.1.
 Problem appear on initialize part, installer have frozen and it is a 
 little bit strange for me.

Your problems look like they might be related to the ACPI troubles
listed in the release errata.  Did you try the suggestions there?
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Re: Question abt arp in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ilya V. Serov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got a curious thing with FBS 5.1-RELEASE, concerning arp
 requests/reply. I have a LAN, connected to Internet through CISCO
 router. Recently I had to move one ip address inside my LAN from a 4.8
 box to a 5.1 box without a reboot (ifconfig ...). After this I had
 discovered that CISCO continue sending packets to old MAC address (to
 4.8). After an investigation of the problem I discovered, thet CISCO
 had not forgotten the old MAC. If  ip is being moved from 4.8 box to
 4.8 box this effect fanishes.
 Did anyone get similar problems? Is it a feature or a bug in 5.1,
 or I don't understand something?

It *should* be normal behaviour.  The other devices on the Ethernet
shouldn't update their ARP listings until the box sends out some kind
of broadcast packet.  If it doesn't do so, the other devices will time
out their ARP mappings in 5 minutes.
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Re: Installation Issues

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jake Stride [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have had freebsd 4.9 working fine on a dell optiplex, until I
 decided to do a re-install today. However, I am now no longer able to
 boot freebsd.
 
 The installation proceeds normally, but when I reboot the system, it
 gets to the boot manager and then reboots, and then keeps on rebooting
 everytime it gets to the boot manager.
 
 I have tried without the boot manager and also each of the
 partitions. I have also set the / partition to bootable, but to no
 avail.
 
 I am sure this must be a simple error on my part, but I have been
 looking at it for too long now, and wondered if anyone else could shed
 any light on the issue.

Sounds like you didn't get the loader installed 
on your FreeBSD boot partition. 
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startx and numlocks

2003-11-21 Thread Dru

Does anyone know how to keep numlocks on when using startx? I have
numlocks on in all of my terminals, but when I start X, it goes off. Is
there a line I can add to .xinitrc?

TIA,

Dru
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[Tracker]

2003-11-21 Thread ganja
Hey...my logon name is ganja on the supernova site.

I have a tracker up and running now if ya want to use it. The announce address is 
http://warzone.no-ip.com:6969/announce let me know so i can set ya up an account to 
upload torrents and stuff.

Thanks,
ganja
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Re: startx and numlocks

2003-11-21 Thread Jean-Marc Zucconi
 Dru  writes:

  Does anyone know how to keep numlocks on when using startx? I have
  numlocks on in all of my terminals, but when I start X, it goes off. Is
  there a line I can add to .xinitrc?

My solution (certainly not the best one!) was to edit
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us 

Jean-Marc

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Terminal Server

2003-11-21 Thread Ian Barnes
Hi,

I would like to deploy a few terminal servers at my company and im wondering
if FreeBSD has a way in which this can be done.

Linux has LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org). It basically allows you to boot up
from a stiffy using a diskless server. Can this be done on FreeBSD and if so
how ? Using bootprom ?

Thanks for the help.

Ian

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Re: About setup FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE to Sony notebook PCG-R505GCK

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I begin setup I see next message:
 eisa0: EISA bus on motherboard
 eisa0: unknown card [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0x0808) at slot 1
 Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode
 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x81d1
 stack pointer   = 0x10:0xeb8
 frame pointer   = 0x10:0xf0e
 code segment= base 0xc00f, limit 0x, type 0x1b
  = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0
 processor elfags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 current process = 0 (swapper)
 trap number = 9
 panic: general protectin fault
 
 What must I do to setup freeBSD to my notebook.

Do you need 5.1?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/early-adopter.html
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Re: Fwd: newbee help on freebsd email server setup

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert

 here is the problem i cant track down.when i send mail to an
 account set up on mailserver (thru adduser) and using an remote
 source email server.when i use a pc through windows 2000
 running outlook express i cannot retrieve the mail...it comes back
 with error message 550 host unknown

Outlook Express is probably trying to use POP or some other mailbox
protocol (maybe IMAP) to download the messages.  Sendmail has nothing
to do with it at this level; you need a POP server to allow POP
downloading of messages.  There are several in the ports system.
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Re: 200gb hard drive?

2003-11-21 Thread Robert Huff

Omer Faruk Sen writes:

  Thanks for all answers. That space problem was bothering me all
  the times and I have learnt the reason for space loss. By the way
  I admit that I have to make more search on google before sending
  that to here.
  
  But it can be very nice that this information to be added on
  handbook. Or is it in handbook already?

I think it's in the FAQ.
A better question for the list: did something change in df
sometime in 5.x?  Because the numbers in the three columns used to
match (modulo rounding error); if you dipped into the reserve pool
it showed as negative free space available - a _very_ obvious visual
marker something was wrong.
(I'd been wondering why I get this:

huff@ df -h 
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a   484M   111M   334M25%/
devfs 1.0K   1.0K 0B   100%/dev
/dev/da1s1d44G19G22G47%/usr
/dev/da0s1d   989M38M   872M 4%/var

and wondering whether it foretold some larger problem.
)


Robert Huff


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Re: Disklabel problem IBM SCSI3 disks, vinum too

2003-11-21 Thread Bob Collins
At 08:41 PM 11/19/2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
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Quotation broken.

On Wednesday, 19 November 2003 at  9:13:43 -0500, Bob Collins wrote:
 At 10:46 PM 11/17/2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

 Do you have device nodes for da4?  Has it been labelled at all?

 I did not have `all' the nodes for da4 in /dev. So, I ran #sh MAKEDEV da4
 in the /dev directory. After that, there were what appeared to be all the
 device nodes for da4.

 I was able to label the drive and use it with vinum under 5.0-RELEASE FWIW.
 Under 4.9-RELEASE (which is what I now run) it will not label through
 /stand/sysinstall.

 I can now newfs the drive and mount it and copy files to and fro, however I
 cannot use it with vinum. I did umount the drive and then disklabel -e da4
 and changed the e: to h: and the filesystem type to vinum. It was da4s1e.

 When I create the vinum configuration, I either get that drive d (da4s1h)
 is referenced and in the down state while the other three drives are up, or
 the other three drives a b c are referenced and in the down state while
 drive d is up.
I need the information I ask for in
http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html.
Greg
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No changes to sources

vinum - list
4 drives:
D d State: up   Device /dev/da1s1h  Avail:
0/8747 MB (0%)
D c State: up   Device /dev/da2s1h  Avail:
0/8747 MB (0%)
D b State: up   Device /dev/da3s1h  Avail:
0/8747 MB (0%)
D a State: up   Device /dev/da4s1h  Avail:
0/8747 MB (0%)
1 volumes:
V raid  State: down Plexes:   1 Size: 25 GB
1 plexes:
P raid.p0R5 State: init Subdisks: 4 Size: 25 GB
4 subdisks:
S raid.p0.s0State: emptyPO:0  B Size:   8747 MB
S raid.p0.s1State: emptyPO:  512 kB Size:   8747 MB
S raid.p0.s2State: emptyPO: 1024 kB Size:   8747 MB
S raid.p0.s3State: emptyPO: 1536 kB Size:   8747 MB
18 Nov 2003 21:03:29.947426 *** vinum started ***
18 Nov 2003 21:03:29.948250 *** Created devices ***
18 Nov 2003 21:03:30.242946 create -f /etc/vinum.conf
# Vinum configuration of freebie, Wed Nov 13
drive /dev/a device /dev/da1s1h
drive /dev/b device /dev/da2s1h
drive /dev/c device /dev/da3s1h
drive /dev/d device /dev/da4s1h
volume raid
 plex org raid5 512k
  sd len 8747m drive /dev/a
  sd len 8747m drive /dev/b
  sd len 8747m drive /dev/c
  sd len 8747m drive /dev/d
18 Nov 2003 21:03:30.407281 *** Created devices ***
18 Nov 2003 21:03:29.948250 *** Created devices ***
Nov 18 21:03:24 freebie /kernel: vinum: loaded
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/a is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/b is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/c is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: raid.p0.s3 is crashed
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: raid.p0 is initializing
Nov 18 21:03:24 freebie /kernel: vinum: loaded
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/a is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/b is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: drive /dev/c is up
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: raid.p0.s3 is crashed
Nov 18 21:03:30 freebie /kernel: vinum: raid.p0 is initializing


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Re: Terminal Server

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ian Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to deploy a few terminal servers at my company and im wondering
 if FreeBSD has a way in which this can be done.

It's not hard at all to slap together, but for real applications, I'd
recommend buying a commercial terminal server anyway.  It will be a
lot more reliable than typical PC hardware.
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Re: About setup FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE to Sony notebook PCG-R505GCK

2003-11-21 Thread Jesse Guardiani
toor wrote:

 When I begin setup I see next message:
 eisa0: EISA bus on motherboard
 eisa0: unknown card [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0x0808) at slot 1
 Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel
 mode
 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x81d1
 stack pointer   = 0x10:0xeb8
 frame pointer   = 0x10:0xf0e
 code segment= base 0xc00f, limit 0x, type
 0x1b
  = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0
 processor elfags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 current process = 0 (swapper)
 trap number = 9
 panic: general protectin fault
 
 What must I do to setup freeBSD to my notebook.
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Try typing this at the loader prompt:

set hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range=1

And then 'boot'. You can type '?' for help.
If that doesn't work, then try posting to either -CURRENT
or -MOBILE. Perhaps someone there can be of more help.

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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Rahul Fernandez

 Look at chapter 16 in the Handbook. There are some things that you have to do, 
 such as add device pcm or others to your kernel before you can have sound.
 
 I have a black Lite-on in my test server and it worked just fine after I 
 configured xmcd to use /dev/acd0c.
 
 Kent

Hi, Thanks for the responses. My understanding from the handbook was that I did
not need to do this as I simply loaded a module (by editing the 'loader.conf'
file). Am I mistaken? I am able to hear sound when watching films using mplayer.
Does that not mean that the audio cable is connected to the sound card (in
response to somebody's suggestion)? I will check later that this is the case.
Thanks, Rahul

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savecore: reboot after panic: page fault (was Re: Question)

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
VastNET [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Do you know what's the reason of it? My machine is rebooting few times a day. 
 
 If answer is YES, what should I do?
 
 savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
 118savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0
 xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0
 xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304

The system has already panicked at that point, so the cause of the
crash can't be determined from what you've posted.  Look at what
happens a little earlier.

Next time, please provide more information on your system.  See Greg
Lehey's excellent advice on How to get the best results from FreeBSD
questions: 
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Re: none

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Rahul Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
 installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However, this
 package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the package
 from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
 release?

It might be possible to use the later packages, but you would be safer
to build it for your system from ports.
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Re: Information about /dist

2003-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
olgav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Please,help me, becouse as soon as possible we need corporate FreeBSD
 server.

If this is for a corporate server application, 
please use FreeBSD 4.9 instead.  
5.x is still considered a technology preview.
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FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy

The folks at the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) are discussing
(again) where directories for recurring temporary mount points should go.
Recurring temporary mount points are for things like cdroms, floppies,
and digital cameras as well as HD partitions from other OSes (like MS
Windows).

Red Hat started putting these in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom), but that totally
breaks compatibility with the BSDs, which have specified /mnt as an empty
directory for ad hoc temporary mounts. SuSE has started putting these in
/media, and now folks on the FHS list would like to know what people in
the BSDs' communities would prefer.

I imagine your answer will be something like We don't care; do what you
want, but I would like to present the different ideas, and perhaps you
would prefer one.

So, please put these in the order of most to least preferred, and say why
you like or dislike any of them.

- All mount points in / (e.g. /cdrom, /camera, /windows/C)  - current
FreeBSD standard
- All mount points in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/camera, /mnt/windows/C)
- breaks
  FreeBSD standard for an empty /mnt
- Anyplace at all
- Anyplace but /mnt (i.e. what the FHS 2.2 currently specifies)
- Anyplace but / or /mnt (e.g. /vol/cdrom, /var/mnt/camera,
/media/windows/C)
  (some suggestions have been /media, /mounts, /vol, /var/mnt,
  and /var/tmp/removable. Others?)

Thanks letting us know how you feel about this,

Frank Murphy

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Re: Terminal Server

2003-11-21 Thread Cordula's Web
 I would like to deploy a few terminal servers at my company and im wondering
 if FreeBSD has a way in which this can be done.
 
 Linux has LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org). It basically allows you to boot up
 from a stiffy using a diskless server. Can this be done on FreeBSD and if so
 how ? Using bootprom ?

Have you read the Handbook?

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/diskless.html

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Re: Vinum configuration problem (RAID-1)

2003-11-21 Thread Jani Reinikainen
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:56:40 +
Lewis Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:53:52AM +0200, Jani Reinikainen wrote:
  Created a new partition 'h':
  - size = 12715857 ('c' partition) - 265 = 12715592
  - offset 16
 
 Why isn't that:
 
 - size = 12715857 ('c' partition) - 16 = 12715841
 - offset 16?

Doh! Of course :-) How silly of me not to notice that. Works fine now,
thanks!

   I am curious though -- vinum for just one disk?

I added another spindle for this setup, I just thought debugging one
spindle's setup at a time would be easier. Now my RAID-1 is complete and
working. I documented my setup here:

http://devel.reinikainen.net/docs/how-to/Vinum/

Comments are very welcome. English is not my native tongue, so
grammatical errors probably exist :-)


Cheers,
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Re: DVD Burning

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Meyers
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 15:30, Charles Swiger wrote:
...
 Right, but the acd device ['man 4 acd'] and the cd device ['man 4 cd'] 
 are not the same-- that's what the CAM subsystem is for, to provide 
 passthrough emulation for ATAPI devices so that you can send SCSI 
 commands to them.  The burncd program works with ATAPI devices 
 directly; the programs with dvd+rw-tools need CAM.
 

I mostly get what you are talking about here, but I'm not sure what this
means in my situation. Sorry.

 Hmm, also you should be configuring your device to enable UltraDMA 
 modes rather than PIO; try a sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma=1, or equivalent 
 in /etc/sysctl.conf or /boot/loader.conf.

When I try that sysctl command I get this:

# sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
sysctl: oid 'hw.ata.atapi_dma' is read only

The same thing shows up at boot when I have the 'hw.ata.atapi_dma=1'
part in /etc/sysctl.conf

Charles, I appreciate all your help so far, and I hope that I'm not
frustrating you too much.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: Vinum configuration problem (RAID-1)

2003-11-21 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:43:53PM +0200, Jani Reinikainen wrote:
 I added another spindle for this setup, I just thought debugging one
 spindle's setup at a time would be easier. Now my RAID-1 is complete
 and working.

I guessed as much but my reply wouldn't have been complete without the
obligatory ``stoopid'' response ;)

 Comments are very welcome. English is not my native tongue, so
 grammatical errors probably exist :-)

I honestly couldn't tell you weren't English from these posts, so I'm
sure it's perfect.

  Best wishes,

-lewiz.

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Mykroft Holmes IV
Frank Murphy wrote:

The folks at the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) are discussing
(again) where directories for recurring temporary mount points should go.
Recurring temporary mount points are for things like cdroms, floppies,
and digital cameras as well as HD partitions from other OSes (like MS
Windows).
Red Hat started putting these in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom), but that totally
breaks compatibility with the BSDs, which have specified /mnt as an empty
directory for ad hoc temporary mounts. SuSE has started putting these in
/media, and now folks on the FHS list would like to know what people in
the BSDs' communities would prefer.
I imagine your answer will be something like We don't care; do what you
want, but I would like to present the different ideas, and perhaps you
would prefer one.
So, please put these in the order of most to least preferred, and say why
you like or dislike any of them.
- All mount points in / (e.g. /cdrom, /camera, /windows/C)  - current
FreeBSD standard
- All mount points in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/camera, /mnt/windows/C)
- breaks
 FreeBSD standard for an empty /mnt
- Anyplace at all
- Anyplace but /mnt (i.e. what the FHS 2.2 currently specifies)
- Anyplace but / or /mnt (e.g. /vol/cdrom, /var/mnt/camera,
/media/windows/C)
 (some suggestions have been /media, /mounts, /vol, /var/mnt,
 and /var/tmp/removable. Others?)
Thanks letting us know how you feel about this,

Frank Murphy

 

Well, Apple uses /Volumes for all mounts

It seems to work pretty well, although the capital letter is an obvious 
Apple-ism.

Adam

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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread Bert Lagaisse
Rahul Fernandez wrote:

I am able to hear sound when watching films using mplayer.
Does that not mean that the audio cable is connected to the sound card (in
response to somebody's suggestion)? I will check later that this is the case.
Thanks, Rahul
Trying to simplify the difference:

the sound from a mpg/divx/xvid movie is read as data over the IDE cable.
then this data is processed by the playersoftware and send to the the 
right audio codec (e.g mp3), which sends its output to the soundcard 
driver, which instructs the soundcard (using the PCI or ISA bus) to make 
some noise.

in the case of an audio cd:
The cd-drive receives a play instruction for track 5
the cd-drive sends the audio it reads directly to the soundcard using 
the cable between the 2 devices.





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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 ...

 I imagine your answer will be something like We don't care; do what you
 want, but I would like to present the different ideas, and perhaps you
 would prefer one.
 
 So, please put these in the order of most to least preferred, and say why
 you like or dislike any of them.
 

Ok, Here are my addled thoughts:

Good:
 - All mount points in / (e.g. /cdrom, /camera, /windows/C)  - current
 FreeBSD standard
 (Just come up with a nice sounding name for each)

 - Under something like /media/as in /media/cdrom, etc
 (except the name media may become obsolete)
 - Anyplace but /mnt (i.e. what the FHS 2.2 currently specifies)
 Except not /var/  or /usr  or /home  or /tmp


Less Good:
 - All mount points in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/camera, /mnt/windows/C)
 - breaks
   FreeBSD standard for an empty /mnt

 NOT:
 These are too long and cumbersom, may contradict other usage 
 Especially not /var...  as it is something else
 and /media/windows... is also too MS specific.   
 - Anyplace but / or /mnt (e.g. /vol/cdrom, /var/mnt/camera,
 /media/windows/C)
   (some suggestions have been /media, /mounts, /vol, /var/mnt,
   and /var/tmp/removable. Others?)
 Anyplace at all
  Now, that is not much of a standard - why bother?
 
 Thanks letting us know how you feel about this,
 
 Frank Murphy
 
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Re: Question

2003-11-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 20), VastNET said:
 Hello!
 
 Do you know what's the reason of it? My machine is rebooting few times a day. 
 
 If answer is YES, what should I do?
 
 savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
 118savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0
 xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304
 118Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0
 xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304

Since if looks like you have crashdumps already enabled, follow the instructions at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING
, and let us see the stack trace that gdb prints.

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Re: Binary port question

2003-11-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 08:57:05PM -0800, Kevin McKay wrote:
 Are the binary ports obtained via pkg_add -r for 5.1 ever updated on
 the sever or is the contents static?

Packages for releases are not updated.  Packages for -stable are
updated regularly, and you can almost always use them safely with the
most recent release.

Kris


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Re: Staying current with 4.9 - which supfile?

2003-11-21 Thread a

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:51:55PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:27:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In order to keep a 4.9 system current - do I need to use the
  standard-supfile or stable-supfile with cvsup?
 
 That depends on whether you want 4.9-STABLE (stable-supfile), which is
 the latest incarnation of the 4-STABLE branch, or whether you want
 4.9-RELEASE-pX (standard-supfile) which is the 4.9-RELEASE system plus
 security patches only.
 ...
 4-STABLE receives new functionality, upgrades to software and so
 forth.  4.9-RELEASE doesn't. 

Hi Matthew,

Thanks much for the hints. After going through the explanations of the
FreeBSD handbook (difference between STABLE and CURRENT) one more
time, re-reading your email there are some questions remaining - maybe
you could comment on this just to make things clear:

When I installed 4.9 from the CD (originally .iso pulled down from
freebsd.org) this was 4.9-STABLE (i.e. 4.9-RELEASE as it was an
official release)?

When doing a CVS-upgrade on this installation with stable-supfile I
get any feature-enhancements/program upgrades in the 4.9 line plus
any bug fixes on 4.9?

But how - if at all - does CURRENT come in? Or does CURRENT wrt my
installed 4.9 only relate to 5.x?


(Sorry if these questions sound dumb, but I didn't find any
comprehensive explanation about the differences between
stable/current/release/standard)

Thanks much in advance for your help,
-ewald

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:07:31 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Good:
  - All mount points in / (e.g. /cdrom, /camera, /windows/C)  - current
  FreeBSD standard

  (Just come up with a nice sounding name for each)

The problem isn't what the names of the directories are, but where they
belong. The idea is to be flexible enough that any new device that shows
up can be put into a sensible directory, not to define nice sounding
names for each new device that comes along. That will be decided by
distributions and application developers over time (outside of the FHS).

  - Under something like /media/as in /media/cdrom, etc
  (except the name media may become obsolete)

  - Anyplace but /mnt (i.e. what the FHS 2.2 currently specifies)
  Except not /var/  or /usr  or /home  or /tmp

I understand why not /usr, /home, or /tmp, but why not someplace in /var?
These are specifically temporary mount points, and the FreeBSD hier(7)
manpage defines /var to be:

/var/multi-purpose log, temporary, transient, and spool files

 Less Good:
  - All mount points in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/camera, /mnt/windows/C)
  - breaks FreeBSD standard for an empty /mnt
 
  NOT:
  These are too long and cumbersom, may contradict other usage
  Especially not /var...  as it is something else
  and /media/windows... is also too MS specific.

The windows part was just an example which won't be in the standard.
You say especially not /var because it's something else. What is it,
do you think?

  - Anyplace but / or /mnt (e.g. /vol/cdrom, /var/mnt/camera,
  /media/windows/C)
(some suggestions have been /media, /mounts, /vol, /var/mnt,
and /var/tmp/removable. Others?)


  Anyplace at all
   Now, that is not much of a standard - why bother?

Well, the idea would be that the standard wouldn't bother. :)

It sounds like you think that a new root-level directory should be
created for this, and that /media would be OK, but there might be a (yet
undiscovered) better name. Is this accurate?

Thanks for responding to me,

Frank

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Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi!

This question is inspired by a recent mail on this list.

My ISP was so nice to give me a domain name (pukruppa.net) and
assign it statically to an IP (213.146.114.24).
[So now everybody in the world can telnet pukruppa.net and crack
my private machine :-)  ]

From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .

How comes this?


Regards,

Uli.



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Re: No sound when playing a CD in FreeBSD 4.9

2003-11-21 Thread ogautherot

 Trying to simplify the difference:
 
 the sound from a mpg/divx/xvid movie is read as data over the IDE cable.
 then this data is processed by the playersoftware and send to the the 
 right audio codec (e.g mp3), which sends its output to the soundcard 
 driver, which instructs the soundcard (using the PCI or ISA bus) to make 
 some noise.

I thought there was a technical way of reading the CD track as data
and write the samples to the audio driver? It was called paranoid
access or the like and was meant for people who did not have this
audio cable on the CD drive. It worked in much the same way as the
CD ripper but played the data instead of saving them to disk.

Olivier
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Re: hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:42:33 -0500
 Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] granted us these pearls of wisdom:
 
  At 08:17 PM 11/20/2003, paul van den bergen wrote:
  
  to expand on this, there is a potential many to many relationship here 
  between
  host names and IP addresses (strickly speaking that is what dns etc sees?)
  
  how dose BSD define this? how does one define this using BSD?
  
  Hey, sounds like you understand things so well you see the void in the 
  forest. As a newbie I'm still just trying to keep my head from twisting off 
  at long enough intervals to define some of the questions. Like, given I 
  have 5 boxes - 1 fbsd 4 windoz though maybe that proportion will change in 
  a time :) - and each has their own ip adr and I have two apaches installed 
  does that mean I can setup a max of 5 different domain level websites on my 
  intranet? Or 10? Or infinite (well, this is reality I hope so...)
  
  The daemons are afoot, my ponderings do not affect them.
 
 Hi,
 Let me see if I can shed some light on this issue for you. To the best
 of my knowledge a FBSD system can have only one hostname however it can
 have as many aliases as you wish. The setup of aliases is acheived via
 DNS rather than assigning hostnames per interface. Where you have
 multiple machines you would assign multiple hostnames whether they be
 from different domains or not.
 
 $ host mail.meibin.net
 mail.meibin.net is a nickname for kyoto.meibin.net
 kyoto.meibin.net has address 220.111.132.28
 
 per the above the actual host name for the system is kyoto, it's FQDN is
 kyoto.meibin.net and it has the alias of mail.meibin.net rather than the
 host name of mail.meibin.net .
 
 Apache and loads of other software support virtual hosting and defining
 a name in an apache configuration has little to do with the actual
 underlying system hostname. That being said virtual hosts don't work
 well if DNS was not set correctly for them. 

You can also configure your NIC to answer to multiple IP addresses
and then configure your Apache to treat each as a virtual host with
a separate hostname/URL.   Yes, you have to have whoever is serving
DNS for you (either yourself, your ISP or some DNS service) set up
to translate IP - hostname and if it involves a new Domain name,
you have to register it with the appropriate registering agency.
Most of our sites use a separate IP for each virtual host for
various reasons.   But, you can also have multiple aliases per
IP address as the poster indicates.

jerry

 
 HTH
 
 LukeK
 
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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Jake Stride
Probably because there is no DNS set up for the domain.

Have you set up the required names on NS.KAMP.NET, NS2.KAMP.NET, 
NS2.KAMPNIC.NET?

Unless there are DNS records they won't resolve to IP Addresses, 
perhaps your isp would be kind enough to do that for you too.

Jake

On Friday, Nov 21, 2003, at 15:35 Europe/London, Peter Ulrich Kruppa 
wrote:

Hi!

This question is inspired by a recent mail on this list.

My ISP was so nice to give me a domain name (pukruppa.net) and
assign it statically to an IP (213.146.114.24).
[So now everybody in the world can telnet pukruppa.net and crack
my private machine :-)  ]
From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .
How comes this?

Regards,

Uli.



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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Steve Bertrand
 From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
 machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
 and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
 The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .

If you have control of the DNS zone, then you must add hostnames for the
domain and assign them to the IP. Most likely, your ISP has set up just
the domain name to point to the IP.

Just ask them to assign the names you want for your domain to the IP that
you want them to point at.

If the name does not exist in DNS, then it won't be found on the Internet.

Steve



 How comes this?


 Regards,

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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Cordula's Web
 My ISP was so nice to give me a domain name (pukruppa.net) and
 assign it statically to an IP (213.146.114.24).
 [So now everybody in the world can telnet pukruppa.net and crack
 my private machine :-)  ]
 
 From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
 machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
 and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
 The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .

You need to add A records (or CNAME records) to your DNS
zone pukruppa.net:

  one.pukruppa.net. A   213.146.114.24
  two.pukruppa.net. A   213.146.114.24
  ...

Or, alternatively, use CNAME (don't forget the trailing dots)

  pukruppa.net. A 213.146.114.24
  one.pukruppa.net. CNAME pukruppa.net.
  two.pukruppa.net. CNAME pukruppa.net.
  ...

Setting A records directly saves one additional lookup though.
You could also use Wildcard DNS records (*.pukruppa.net.   A  ),
but I wouldn't recommend this.

BTW, you could also use a better PTR record for your IP:

24.114.146.213.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer 
reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de

kamp-dsl will be glad to set up a reverse record for you
if you asked them.

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister

   Anyplace at all
Now, that is not much of a standard - why bother?
 
 Well, the idea would be that the standard wouldn't bother. :)
 
 It sounds like you think that a new root-level directory should be
 created for this, and that /media would be OK, but there might be a (yet
 undiscovered) better name. Is this accurate?

That seems like a pretty good summary.

jerry

 
 Thanks for responding to me,
 
 Frank
 
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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Marty Landman
At 10:42 AM 11/21/2003, Cordula's Web wrote:

 From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
 machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
 and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
 The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .
You need to add A records (or CNAME records) to your DNS
zone pukruppa.net:
I'm a newbie faced with a similar (I think) problem; only in my case I'd 
like to do the required DNS mapping on my intranet. Have no clue so plz be 
gentle?

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customized /usr/share/skel

2003-11-21 Thread Dru

I'd like to customize /usr/share/skel. It's an easy matter to edit
/usr/src/share/skel/Makefile and to make my own dot files.

However, will my customizations get overwritten when I make my next world?
If so, what's the best way to go about preventing my files from being
overwritten? e.g. should I place my custom Makefile and dot files in a
different directory and rerun my Makefile after a successful install
world?

Dru
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Re: hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-21 Thread Marty Landman
At 10:35 AM 11/21/2003, Jerry McAllister wrote:

You can also configure your NIC to answer to multiple IP addresses
and then configure your Apache to treat each as a virtual host with
a separate hostname/URL.   Yes, you have to have whoever is serving
DNS for you (either yourself, your ISP or some DNS service) set up
to translate IP - hostname
Jerry, thanks for trying but I don't know what this means (I've heard this 
remark so many times myself from others...). Yikes, I'm just a blathering 
idiot. :(

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy


  It sounds like you think that a new root-level directory should be
  created for this, and that /media would be OK, but there might be a (yet
  undiscovered) better name. Is this accurate?
 
 That seems like a pretty good summary.
 
 jerry

Cool. Could you also explain to me why you think that /var would be such
a bad place for this?

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:31:19PM +0100, Frank Murphy typed:
 
 On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:07:31 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

[...]

   Anyplace at all
Now, that is not much of a standard - why bother?
 
 Well, the idea would be that the standard wouldn't bother. :)

Good. My vote goes to Anyplace at all.

I like to build my own bikeshed ;)

Ruben

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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread C. Ulrich
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:14, Peter Risdon wrote:
 I just moved from 5.1-current to 5.1 release, and fixed a lot of 
 problems on a horribly unstable box by doing so. I believe downgrading 
 to stable is very awkward, but others will be better qualified to 
 discuss that than I am.

On a related note, I know that following CURRENT is a game of risk, but
are current branch releases (such as 5.1-RELEASE) intended to be a bit
more stable and usable than staying constantly up to date with CURRENT?

In other words, is there a pretty good chance that 5.2-RELEASE won't
break my (non-production) workstation too horribly when it comes out? Or
does it carry the same exact risks as following CURRENT?

Thanks,

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Re: Staying current with 4.9 - which supfile?

2003-11-21 Thread Nils Vogels
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But how - if at all - does CURRENT come in? Or does CURRENT wrt my
installed 4.9 only relate to 5.x?
 

CURRENT is the development version of FreeBSD, basically for developers 
only, those who want to test the finest and newest options, and do not 
fear a complete systems failure from time to time (CURRENT does not 
always compile, and when it compiles, it may be unstable)

CURRENT is only in 5.x present, since 4.x is a stable branch by now.

Sometimes really nifty features from CURRENT are migrated into STABLE 
(and thus eventually in RELEASE) after careful testing.

HTH  HAND

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Emails and charset issue

2003-11-21 Thread Pierrick Brossin
Hi!

Is there a way to make sure my mail client is really using UTF-8 as
charset ?
Headers claims so but people reports I'm not

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I'm not a charset guru but I assume there's nothing to install on both
side to make it work except the mail client :)

Could anyone tell me the way to make sure or confirm I'm really
using UTF-8 ?

Thanks

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Re: DVD Burning -- Got it Working!!

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Meyers
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 15:30, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Nov 20, 2003, at 3:52 PM, Chris Meyers wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 14:35, Charles Swiger wrote:
  Double-check what's going on with your devices, what does camcontrol
  devlist give you?  Maybe try using /dev/cd0c rather than
  /dev/acd0c?
 
  Here's what camcontrol had to say:
  # camcontrol devlist -v
  scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0:
   at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0)
 
  I'm guessing there should be something there between the  .
 
 More than that, you should see an entry like:
 
 NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:465 1.03at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (pass2,cd0)
 
 ...mentioning the CD/DVD device; the entry for xpt0 is simply the 
 driver interface itself, not a reference to a particular device.
 
  I don't have a cd0 entry in /dev so trying growisofs with it give this:
  :-( unable to open(/dev/cd0c,O_RDONLY): No such file or directory
  Also dmesg show this line:
  acd0: DVD-R Memorex DVD+/-RW Dual-X1 at ata1-master PIO4
  which pretty much shows that the drive is being recognized and put at
  acd0
 
 Right, but the acd device ['man 4 acd'] and the cd device ['man 4 cd'] 
 are not the same-- that's what the CAM subsystem is for, to provide 
 passthrough emulation for ATAPI devices so that you can send SCSI 
 commands to them.  The burncd program works with ATAPI devices 
 directly; the programs with dvd+rw-tools need CAM.
 
 Hmm, also you should be configuring your device to enable UltraDMA 
 modes rather than PIO; try a sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma=1, or equivalent 
 in /etc/sysctl.conf or /boot/loader.conf.

Ok I finally got it working. I did need to recompile my kernel and add:

device atapicam

Once I did that I ran:

growisofs -Z /dev/acd0c -R -J bkuptest

and I got an ioctl error. I then tried:

growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J bkuptest

and everything worked as it was supposed to. Thanks to Charles and
everyone else who pitched in their 2 cents.

Chris



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Re: Emails and charset issue

2003-11-21 Thread Pierrick Brossin
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:31:08 +0100
Pierrick Brossin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could anyone tell me the way to make sure or confirm I'm really
 using UTF-8 ?

btw when I use no accent it's using 7bit :)

so here is a UTF-8 mail ()

Regards

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more than one library possible ??

2003-11-21 Thread M.D. DeWar
Hello,
I was going to install mrtg from the ports.
As it started to install I saw that it did not find GD and was d/l 1.84 even
tho I have 2.0.15 (or whatever it actually is) installed.

So I d/l the actual mrtg files and was trying to install it.
but it does not like my GD install.

Will the mrtg from ports hurt or upset  my original GD install ?

I have seen other ports try to do the same thing so I stop them cuz I don't
want to fubar my box.

Thanks
Newbie mark


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a good way to save a keystroke?

2003-11-21 Thread Marty Landman
I wanted to look at a file and figured why not pipe the output of which to 
more, which of course didn't work so I figured if I backticked the which 
output with more in front that would work, and apparently it does (though 
I'm not sure that the cmd itself wasn't executed?).

e.g. more `which apachectl`

Is this a reasonable way to get what I'm after, or a bad thing?

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread John Oxley
On Fri 2003-11-21 (15:41), Frank Murphy wrote:
[snip]
 - Anyplace at all
I'm for this one.  I like a purple bikeshed.

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Installed ports

2003-11-21 Thread Valerian Galeru
Pls tell me where are all the installed ports? After i installed the port, where i can 
find the bin file for the port?


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Re: Suggestion to display date/time of port addition or modification

2003-11-21 Thread Jacek Pelka
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:36:09PM -0800, Peter Leftwich wrote:
 
 [2] I do not understand the usefulness nor see the beauty of the current
 method of installing ports.  Why must a user download elementary
 instructions for programs A, B, C, D, through Z when all he or she may
 want are programs P and Q which require libraries B, C, D, and E?  In
 other words, have the people in the know ever considered making it
 possible to download one tarballed directory, whose Makefile could figure
 out which other tarballed directories are needed and fetch them in
 sequence?  This seems far simpler than 19 megs of unnecessary files that
 may never be used possibly.  Thank you for listening, hopefully my remarks
 generate some discussion.
 
You can use cvsup method with refuse file to download ports collections
you want, for example all without x11-* ports.

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Re: Installed ports

2003-11-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 21), Valerian Galeru said:
 Pls tell me where are all the installed ports? After i installed the port, where i 
 can find the bin file for the port?

Try /usr/local/bin or /usr/X11R6/bin.

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Re: a good way to save a keystroke?

2003-11-21 Thread Jake Stride
On Friday, Nov 21, 2003, at 16:44 Europe/London, Marty Landman wrote:

I wanted to look at a file and figured why not pipe the output of 
which to more, which of course didn't work so I figured if I 
backticked the which output with more in front that would work, and 
apparently it does (though I'm not sure that the cmd itself wasn't 
executed?).

e.g. more `which apachectl`

Is this a reasonable way to get what I'm after, or a bad thing?

more filename
cat filename | more
Should work

Jake

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Re: Installed ports

2003-11-21 Thread Rus Foster
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Valerian Galeru wrote:

 Pls tell me where are all the installed ports? After i installed the
 port, where i can find the bin file for the port?


Ports install in to /usr/local

To see the packages do pkg_info

To see where an package is installed do

pkg_info -L package name

e.g.

bash-2.05b# pkg_info -L imake-4.3.0 | head -10
Information for imake-4.3.0:

Files:
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/ccmakedep.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/cleanlinks.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/gccmakedep.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/imake.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/lndir.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/makedepend.1.gz
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/makeg.1.gz

Rgds

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Re: hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 At 10:35 AM 11/21/2003, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
 You can also configure your NIC to answer to multiple IP addresses
 and then configure your Apache to treat each as a virtual host with
 a separate hostname/URL.   Yes, you have to have whoever is serving
 DNS for you (either yourself, your ISP or some DNS service) set up
 to translate IP - hostname
 
 Jerry, thanks for trying but I don't know what this means (I've heard this 
 remark so many times myself from others...). Yikes, I'm just a blathering 
 idiot. :(

Well, I am not the best one to explain in detail.
For this specific item, your best bet might be to study the
Apache documentation on doing virtual hosts and maybe do some
searching on the net (Google, etc) on the subject.

Generally, it seems like there are actuall several questions being 
asked in this series of posts and I am having trouble figuring out 
what the core issue is.Hostnames and IPs are used on the net to 
address machines.   Some of these can be 'virtual' machines that are 
hosted by machines that are set up to respond to a lot of either/or
hostnames and IPs.   Each actual machine that lives on the net will
have a specific hostname and IP address that is its own and all the
others that it answers to are considered either virtual addresses or
aliases.A DNS server sorts out the relationships and reports
the matchings between IPs and hostnames.   You can run your own DNS
server, especially if you have a lot of machines and your own domain,
or you can arrange with another entity, such as your ISP or another
DNS service to do that for you. 

If you are not connected to the net, it doesn't matter what you call
your machine or how many aliases you create or what IPs you use, though
you might want to stick to the designated private IP ranges if you 
create your own intranet even if it is not connected to the internet.   

There is no limit other than practical ones that I know of to how
many aliases/virtual hosts you create if you are running an intranet
that is not connected to the internet.

If you connect to the internet, the domain you are using must be
registered with a registering service.   The service you use depends on
the top level element of the name (.com .net, .org, .edu, .cn, .fr, etc)
Your ISP will normally be the best one to help you with that (except that
some ISPs are decidedly unhelpful; then you have to go looking)

A fully Qualified Host Name consists of two main parts.
A machine name such as 'mypc' and a domain name such as concern.com.
They are assembled in to a FQHN (Fully Qualified Host Name) 
 - as mypc.concern.com in this example.   
During installation, when it asks for hostname, it wants a Fully
Qualified Hostname if you are going to be connected to the internet.
You might just as well fake one if you are not going to be on
the internet just to be consistent, but you can put just a single
string if you want.  IP addresses must be in the form xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
unless you are playing with IPV6 and if you are, you should know all
this already so stop reading.

There is often much misspeak about these.  The full qualified hostname 
is often called a domain name, for example when only the last part is
really the domain name.  Plus, the term hostname is used to refer to 
both/either the single machine part of the name such as 'mypc' above 
and the fully qualified hostname 'mypc.concern.com' as above.  This 
leads to much confusion and I wish we had better names.  But, that is 
the way it is.

The domain name 'concern.com' must be registered with the service 
handling .com.  Then whoever owns the 'concern.com' domain allows or 
directs hostnames to use it.   If you registered the domain name, then 
you decide.

When the 'concern.com' domain name is registered, you have to tell the 
service what DNS server will be providing DNS service for that domain.
It may be you if you registered the domain name and have a DNS server
or it might be some other system, such as one run by your ISP or another
company that runs DNS servers for hire.Whenever you create a host
that resides in the domain, such as 'mypc' in 'mypc.concern.com' an entry
must be made in whatever DNS server that is handling the 'concern.com' 
domain.   That is required before it will do correct translation.

The physical machine that is mypc on the concern.com domain may answer
to lots of host names and even lots of IPs.   There are two parts to
making this happen.   

The 'mypc' machine must be set up to respond to all those host names 
besides its own name.   If it involves  additional IP address (an alias) 
it is done in a rc.conf ifconfig alias statement (or we actually put those 
in a rc.conf.local file and add an include just to keep things a little 
more clean and clear), and/or in the software that is expected to respond 
to it, such as Apache.   If it is only a different hostname, it can be 
done only by configuring the software that responds to it.  For Apache, 
for example, you 

Re: Staying current with 4.9 - which supfile?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:29:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks much for the hints. After going through the explanations of the
 FreeBSD handbook (difference between STABLE and CURRENT) one more
 time, re-reading your email there are some questions remaining - maybe
 you could comment on this just to make things clear:
 
 When I installed 4.9 from the CD (originally .iso pulled down from
 freebsd.org) this was 4.9-STABLE (i.e. 4.9-RELEASE as it was an
 official release)?

If you installed from an official release .iso then you'll have got
4.9-RELEASE.  This is actually just a point-in-time from the 4-STABLE
branch, after the release engineering team has put a temporary block
on the usual development activities and spent a good few weeks testing
things and fixing up various bug reports and so forth.  However, as
part of the process of making the release, a new branch is made for
the 4.9-RELEASE code, and only critical security fixes get committed
to that release branch.  Post release the 4-STABLE branch carries on
with the usual development activities.
 
 When doing a CVS-upgrade on this installation with stable-supfile I
 get any feature-enhancements/program upgrades in the 4.9 line plus
 any bug fixes on 4.9?

Yes -- 4-STABLE gets all of the security fixes, plus updates to the
system (including upgrades to contributed software like sendmail(8)),
new features, support for some new hardware and so forth.  These
updates are meant to be tested in the bleeding edge development
environment a.k.a 5-CURRENT so that there's some assurance they're
going to work well in 4-STABLE.  However, the 4.x series of releases
has actually lasted as -STABLE a lot longer than the equivalent for
any of the other major version numbers. Consequently the gap between
4.x and 5.x is quite large and MFC'ing (Merge From Current) is not
necessarily as simple as it might be in all areas of the system.
 
 But how - if at all - does CURRENT come in? Or does CURRENT wrt my
 installed 4.9 only relate to 5.x?

CURRENT is the bleeding edge development environment.  You're not
expected to run -CURRENT unless you're capable of serious system
programming type activities.  Indeed, there's no guarrantee that
-CURRENT will actually compile and boot at any particular point in
time.

Yes, -CURRENT implies 5.x at the moment: generally there will be
-STABLE and -RELEASEs with major version number N and -CURRENT with
version (N+1).  However, it's quite an unusual situation at the moment
with several New Technology releases being made from the -CURRENT
branch.  Normality is planned to be restored with the release of 5.3
around March next year, when the 5-STABLE and 6-CURRENT branches[1]
will be created.  Around that point 4-STABLE will cease to attract
much in the way of development activity, and all activity will
gradually cease, as it has on the 3-STABLE and 2-STABLE branches.
There may be another 4.x-RELEASE before that point, but that's not
definite. It will probably be labelled 4.9.1-RELEASE and consist of
wrapping up any loose ends and drawing a line under the 4.x series of
releases.
 
 (Sorry if these questions sound dumb, but I didn't find any
 comprehensive explanation about the differences between
 stable/current/release/standard)

This is all documented on the http://www.freebsd.org/ site and it's
been discussed ad nauseam on various mailing lists.  Try reading the
'Release Engineering' pages http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
and the links accessible from there.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] Actually the -CURRENT branch isn't so much a branch, as the main
stem from which all other branches ultimately spring.  Thus it is
labelled 'HEAD' in most of the documentation, and you use the '.' tag
in cvsup to retrieve those sources.  All part of the fun of using
cvs(1).

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Re: a good way to save a keystroke?

2003-11-21 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 11:44:22AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 I wanted to look at a file and figured why not pipe the output of which to 
 more, which of course didn't work so I figured if I backticked the which 
 output with more in front that would work, and apparently it does (though 
 I'm not sure that the cmd itself wasn't executed?).
 
 e.g. more `which apachectl`
 
 Is this a reasonable way to get what I'm after, or a bad thing?

That's fine.  The command that gets executed is which, not apachectl, so
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Re: startx and numlocks

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Pressey
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:38:24 -0500 (EST)
Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Does anyone know how to keep numlocks on when using startx? I have
 numlocks on in all of my terminals, but when I start X, it goes off.
 Is there a line I can add to .xinitrc?
 
 TIA,
 
 Dru

Hi Dru,

Have you looked at /usr/ports/x11/numlockx ?

-Chris
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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:54:21AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 At 10:42 AM 11/21/2003, Cordula's Web wrote:
 
  From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
  machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
  and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
  The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .
 
 You need to add A records (or CNAME records) to your DNS
 zone pukruppa.net:
 
 I'm a newbie faced with a similar (I think) problem; only in my case I'd 
 like to do the required DNS mapping on my intranet. Have no clue so plz be 
 gentle?

On an intranet setting this sort of stuff up in the DNS is easy.
Unless you have a particularly large and complicated setup, you don't
need to bother with DNS delegation; neither do you need to worry about
CIDR and other things that complicate life.

Lets assume that the domain you're using in your intranet is
'example.com' and you've chose to use the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet for
all of your IP numbering.

You need to set up a machine as DNS server for your intranet.  In the
named.conf file for that machine, configure it to be the authoritative
server for the example.com. and 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. zones by
adding (inter alia):

acl localmachines {
127.0.0.1;
192.168.0.0/24;
};

zone example.com in {
type master;
file p/example.com;
allow-query {
localmachines;
};
allow-transfer {
none;
};
notify no;
};

zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa in {
type master;
file p/0.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
allow-query {
localmachines;
};
allow-transfer {
none;
};
notify no;
};

where the zone data files might look something like this.

example.com:

$TTL3600

@   IN  SOA ns0.example.com. hostmaster.example.com. (
2003112100  ; Serial
10800   ; Refresh (3H)
3600; Retry   (1H)
604800  ; Expire  (1W)
43200 ) ; Minimum (12H)
NS  ns0
MX  10 smtp
;
localhost   A   127.0.0.1
MX  10 smtp
;
net A   192.168.0.0
MX  10 smtp
;
ns0 A   192.168.0.1
MX  10 smtp
;
smtpA   192.168.0.2
MX  10 smtp
;
foo A   192.168.0.3
MX  10 smtp
www-intra   CNAME   foo
;
;[...other data...]
;
broadcast   A   192.168.0.255
MX  10 smtp
;
; That's All Folks!
;

0.168.192.in-addr.arpa:

$TTL3600

@   IN  SOA ns0.example.com. hostmaster.example.com. (
2003112100  ; Serial
10800   ; Refresh (3H)
3600; Retry   (1H)
604800  ; Expire  (1W)
43200 ) ; Minimum (12H)
NS  ns0.example.com.
;
0   PTR net.example.com.
1   PTR ns0.example.com.
2   PTR smtp.example.com.
3   PTR foo.example.com.
;[...]
255 PTR broadcast.example.com.
;
; That's All Folks!
;

Simple eh?  Actually, if all this is pretty much gibberish to you, I
recommend getting hold of the Cricket book: DNS and BIND, 4th Ed,
P. Albitz and C. Liu, O'Reilly and associates, Sebastopol, CA. ISBN
0-596-00158-4 which will explain things with extreme lucidity.

Cheers,

Matthew

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2003-11-21 Thread Peter Elsner
Thanks to all who responded,  Once I installed IPFW and NATD,
everything started coming up.
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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 
   It sounds like you think that a new root-level directory should be
   created for this, and that /media would be OK, but there might be a (yet
   undiscovered) better name. Is this accurate?
  
  That seems like a pretty good summary.
  
  jerry
 
 Cool. 

  Could you also explain to me why you think that /var would be such
 a bad place for this?

Well, I probably can't give a hard and fast absolute reason, but...
We use /var as a place for directoreis/files that can grow somewhat
unexpectedly and weakly controlled, such as spool and logs, etc.
Because of that, our /var is most often put in some other large
general filesystem with links and doesn't really live in either
root (/) or isn't a root located filesystem, but just a directory in
another filesystem such as /work (or in some recent ones /lump - I
couldn't think of a better name).   So, making it the home of mount 
points would be rather awkward.   

I suspect that some others do similar things with /var.  I have
heard it mentioned.

I think something similar can be true of other root located file 
systems such as /usr, although for those it is more likely that 
it just be a directory living within /usr that gets moved and linked.

Generally, I think mount point directories should be as close to
root located as possible with as little intervening stuff that could
possible get shuffled around.

At first blush, it would sound like /mnt would be a likely place, but
it has been out there too long and been used in too many locally
unique ways that mounts on or in there could create much unnecessary
confusion.

As far as any ol' where goes, that doesn't bother me much, but it 
sounds like what is being asked for is a kind of common place that 
won't cause problems so vendors and third party writers can go ahead 
and make something that will work easily across platforms with the 
least pain - and ain't that what everyone whines so much about - the 
pain of adding devices, etc.This would be a harmless way to ease 
some of that pain.   And, anyway, if a standard location is adopted 
and if some users want to do it differently on their machines nothing 
would stop them from doing whatever they want with their systems.  It 
would be no worse than if there was no standard and probably easier.

Just lets not break a bunch of stuff to do it.

Gee, it's nice to be asked about something like this for a change.

jerry

 
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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Marty Landman
At 12:25 PM 11/21/2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

Lets assume that the domain you're using in your intranet is
'example.com' and you've chose to use the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet for
all of your IP numbering.
.

Wow, thanks for all the detail! I will try to put the info to use and post 
back how it goes.

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Re: How can I set a password from STDIN?

2003-11-21 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:42:54AM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone know how can I set or change a password from STDIN? Neither
 passwd or pw seem to accept STDIN.
As someone else mentioned, use -h switch to pw to modify a user password
command line using pw.

As an example a recent PHP application I worked on I added this as a
comment:

/*
use popen to create a stream to the
command:
pw adduser -q -u user -g group \
-s shell -d /home/user -c comment -h 0

and then write the password to the file pointer created
by popen.  This effectively adds the user to the passwd database
whilst at same time setting the password.

This saves listing the password in 'ps' listings.
*/
// adduser command:
$pw_cmd = $cfg['prog']['pw']. useradd .$data[username]
. -g g.$data[id]
. -s $shell 
. -d .$data[root]
. -c \.$data[name].\
. -h 0;

// Open a uni-directional stream to the command:
$fp = popen($pw_cmd, w);

// Execute the command, passing the $data[password] to it:
fwrite($fp, $data[password]);

// Close the pipe:
fclose($fp);

-- 
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 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

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Re: Changes to /etc/login.conf ignored

2003-11-21 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:07:22PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems like any changes I make to /etc/login.conf get silently ignored. 
As I understand it, login.conf is used to set capabilities
on a per user class basis to restrict the environment of classes of
users - ie restricting the ttys users can login on, the max size of core
dump files, maximum memory available to them, max number of processes
allowed and so on.  

Perhaps /etc/csh.cshrc would be a better place to do what you're trying
to do or better in a resource file that's read by all shells when a user
logs in (global .profile file?)?

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FreeBSD Motherboard survey...

2003-11-21 Thread Philip Hallstrom
Hi all -

I'm wanting to build my own computer to run FreeBSD, but don't
have the slightest idea (well, maybe the slightest :) what motherboard to
buy.  I'd like one that has built-in lan/audio that works in FreeBSD, but
in my searching efforts I've turned up very little.

I know the handbook lists chip sets and whatnot, but trying to figure out
what chip set is on a given board isn't always easy -- at least not for me.

So... I wrote a survey app that I'm hoping lots of you will fill out.  It
let's you pick the brand/model of motherboard, then indicate what onboard
features work (lan, audio, video, usb, firewire, ide, sata, scsi, raid,
smp), lets you provide some overall satisfaction ratings, and then
provide any additional comments.

As a side effect you can input your laptop information which seems to be a
frequently asked source of questions.

If I get enough responses I'd like to expand this to include other things
such as DVD players, USB peripherals, etc. that have varying levels of
support in FreeBSD.  Perhaps turn it into a companion to the HARDWARE.TXT
document...

Anyway.. here it is:

http://www.eilio.com/freebsd-motherboards/

Thanks!

-philip
(please cc me on any replies)
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Re: customized /usr/share/skel

2003-11-21 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:36:17AM -0500, Dru wrote:
 I'd like to customize /usr/share/skel. It's an easy matter to edit
 /usr/src/share/skel/Makefile and to make my own dot files.
 
 However, will my customizations get overwritten when I make my next world?
 If so, what's the best way to go about preventing my files from being
 overwritten? e.g. should I place my custom Makefile and dot files in a
 different directory and rerun my Makefile after a successful install
 world?
How about changing the system immutable flags on the /usr/share/skel
files you don't want overwritten (chflags noschg)?  Not a perfect
solution but I don't know of any way that your aim can be achieved via
/etc/make.conf or similar.

Having said that, I haven't had any problems in the past with the make
world process overwriting my customized /usr/share/skel files - whether
or not that was because I used mergemaster in interactive mode and chose
not to overwrite those files I can't remember now.

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Help me...

2003-11-21 Thread Ví­ctor Gutiérrez Cruz
Hello

I have the following problem:

At the time of installing pack of php4-Cli, it requests to me as complement 
the PDFlib-Lite-5.0.0-Unix-src.tar.gz  already looks for it in ports of 
website and I do not locate it.

You have some backup of this pack...

  PDFlib-Lite-5.0.0-Unix-src.tar.gz(this the Package)

Atte. Víctor Gutiérrez Cruz

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Si tu estas bien yo estoy bien)
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Process substitution in bash - doesn't work

2003-11-21 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Hello all,

Whenever I try something like vi (diff file1 file2) in bash I get 
an empty file on /dev/fd/63.. is there a way to make it work? Or does 
FreeBSD not support this?

5.1 RELEASE

TIA,
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Re: Static IP and fully qualified domain names

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:54:21AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
  At 10:42 AM 11/21/2003, Cordula's Web wrote:
  
   From reading manuals one should think, that now I could give my
   machines names like one.pukruppa.net, two.pukruppa.net, etc...
   and all these would be reachable via internet - but they aren't.
   The only one that can be accessed is pukruppa.net .
  
  You need to add A records (or CNAME records) to your DNS
  zone pukruppa.net:
 
  I'm a newbie faced with a similar (I think) problem; only in my case I'd
  like to do the required DNS mapping on my intranet. Have no clue so plz be
  gentle?

 On an intranet setting this sort of stuff up in the DNS is easy.
 Unless you have a particularly large and complicated setup, you don't
 need to bother with DNS delegation; neither do you need to worry about
 CIDR and other things that complicate life.

 Lets assume that the domain you're using in your intranet is
 'example.com' and you've chose to use the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet for
 all of your IP numbering.

 You need to set up a machine as DNS server for your intranet.  In the
 named.conf file for that machine, configure it to be the authoritative
 server for the example.com. and 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. zones by
 adding (inter alia):

 acl localmachines {
 127.0.0.1;
   192.168.0.0/24;
 };

 zone example.com in {
 type master;
 file p/example.com;
 allow-query {
 localmachines;
 };
 allow-transfer {
 none;
 };
 notify no;
 };

 zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa in {
 type master;
 file p/0.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 allow-query {
 localmachines;
 };
 allow-transfer {
 none;
 };
 notify no;
 };

 where the zone data files might look something like this.

 example.com:

 $TTL3600

 @   IN  SOA ns0.example.com. hostmaster.example.com. (
 2003112100  ; Serial
 10800   ; Refresh (3H)
 3600; Retry   (1H)
 604800  ; Expire  (1W)
 43200 ) ; Minimum (12H)
 NS  ns0
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 localhost   A   127.0.0.1
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 net A   192.168.0.0
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 ns0 A   192.168.0.1
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 smtpA   192.168.0.2
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 foo A   192.168.0.3
 MX  10 smtp
 www-intra   CNAME   foo
 ;
 ;[...other data...]
 ;
 broadcast   A   192.168.0.255
 MX  10 smtp
 ;
 ; That's All Folks!
 ;

 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa:

 $TTL3600

 @   IN  SOA ns0.example.com. hostmaster.example.com. (
 2003112100  ; Serial
 10800   ; Refresh (3H)
 3600; Retry   (1H)
 604800  ; Expire  (1W)
 43200 ) ; Minimum (12H)
 NS  ns0.example.com.
 ;
 0   PTR net.example.com.
 1   PTR ns0.example.com.
 2   PTR smtp.example.com.
 3   PTR foo.example.com.
 ;[...]
 255 PTR broadcast.example.com.
 ;
 ; That's All Folks!
 ;

 Simple eh?  Actually, if all this is pretty much gibberish to you, I
 recommend getting hold of the Cricket book: DNS and BIND, 4th Ed,
 P. Albitz and C. Liu, O'Reilly and associates, Sebastopol, CA. ISBN
 0-596-00158-4 which will explain things with extreme lucidity.
I guess, I will have to do some reading.

Thanks,

Uli.


   Cheers,

   Matthew

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   Savill Way
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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Friday 21 November 2003 6:36, Jerry McAllister wrote:
   Could you also explain to me why you think that /var would be such
  a bad place for this?

 Well, I probably can't give a hard and fast absolute reason, but...
 We use /var as a place for directoreis/files that can grow somewhat
 unexpectedly and weakly controlled, such as spool and logs, etc.
 Because of that, our /var is most often put in some other large
 general filesystem with links and doesn't really live in either
 root (/) or isn't a root located filesystem, but just a directory in
 another filesystem such as /work (or in some recent ones /lump - I
 couldn't think of a better name).   So, making it the home of mount
 points would be rather awkward.

 I suspect that some others do similar things with /var.  I have
 heard it mentioned.

 I think something similar can be true of other root located file
 systems such as /usr, although for those it is more likely that
 it just be a directory living within /usr that gets moved and linked.

One of the ideas behind this new directory of mount points is that some kind 
of automounter could then create and delete directories someplace as needed 
without affecting anyone. So while not as large in K as a logfile, the 
contents of the directory could get pretty large. (Probably a realistic max 
of 20 items, but enough to rule out leaving it in /.)

Just because /var is a symlink to /lump/var shouldn't affect that.

 Generally, I think mount point directories should be as close to
 root located as possible with as little intervening stuff that could
 possible get shuffled around.

 At first blush, it would sound like /mnt would be a likely place, but
 it has been out there too long and been used in too many locally
 unique ways that mounts on or in there could create much unnecessary
 confusion.

I agree. I'd prefer to use /mnt for this, but with the historical usages, it's 
not really possible.

 As far as any ol' where goes, that doesn't bother me much, but it
 sounds like what is being asked for is a kind of common place that
 won't cause problems so vendors and third party writers can go ahead
 and make something that will work easily across platforms with the
 least pain - and ain't that what everyone whines so much about - the
 pain of adding devices, etc.This would be a harmless way to ease
 some of that pain.   And, anyway, if a standard location is adopted
 and if some users want to do it differently on their machines nothing
 would stop them from doing whatever they want with their systems.  It
 would be no worse than if there was no standard and probably easier.

Exaclty.

 Just lets not break a bunch of stuff to do it.

 Gee, it's nice to be asked about something like this for a change.

That's why I wanted to ask. Find out how other people are doing this.

Frank

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Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom

2003-11-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 One of the ideas behind this new directory of mount points is that some kind 
 of automounter could then create and delete directories someplace as needed 
 without affecting anyone. So while not as large in K as a logfile, the 
 contents of the directory could get pretty large. (Probably a realistic max 
 of 20 items, but enough to rule out leaving it in /.)
 
 Just because /var is a symlink to /lump/var shouldn't affect that.

Yah, but, it adds just another level of indirection and possible
confusion.   I would prefer my mounts to be more clear.

Hmmm, a place for an automounter to work...
Well, that could involve more than just media devices - demand 
directories of files and home directories or users' scratch directories
come to mind - so maybe a better name than media could be discovered.

On our Sun systems it is in /opt/home, but I never liked it
that way because we also use the name home for another directory
someplace else plus opt ends up being a garbage dump for everything
they haven't thought out well on Suns.

jerry

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Re: Newbie USB Printer Problem

2003-11-21 Thread Barry Bouwsma
[Drop hostname part of IPv6-only address above to obtain IPv4-capable e-mail,
 or best of all, don't reply to me at all]

A bit late for this, but here goes anyway, in case it helps:

(Please don't top-post; it makes it difficult for me to reply and keep
wanted context while stripping away unimportant parts...)

 I did both of those of the suggestions, but still nothing. :(

   I cannot get my HP Deskjet 3420 printer to work. I've read all the prior
 posts
   for USB printers, checked the handbook and the complete freebsd book.

Do you know that you need the hpijs package to be able to talk to your
printer?  (Apologies if you already have it installed)
As seen on the Linuxprinting.org website -- highly recommended as a
reference for anything printer-related -- from the HP FAQ:

 _
Section 13: HP DeskJet 3420
   13.0 See also the HP DeskJet 3420 database page.
   13.1 Does this printer work with gimp-print?
  No, this printer does not support PCL. This printer only works
  with the HPIJS software from Hewlett Packard.
 _

You can install hpijs from ports, or build it without problems from
the source.  This should help you to print, and it comes with heaps
of documentation about installing and configuring it.  Also, look at
the page referred to above for possibly more info...


Barry Bouwsma

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Using setuid

2003-11-21 Thread List
I am trying to run Nagios everything is working properly accept fping. I need 
to know how to use setuid root for fping... what does it do?

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Re: firewall rules do not get read

2003-11-21 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 04:19:09PM -0800, Chip wrote:
 
 
 Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:38:34PM -0800, Chip wrote:
 
 I noticed my firewall rules are not being read. I have rc.conf set to 
 read the file rc.firewall. In rc.firewall the first line is add divert 
 natd etc etc. that is followed by pass all from any to any etc etc. Then 
 nothing after that is read, it is all ignored.
 If I comment out the line pass all from any to any then nothing works to 
 access the internet.
 I don't know what to do to make it read past those first two lines.
 Any suggestions?
 
 
 Can you give me the output of 'ipfw s'. If that one doesn't work then
 try 'ipfw l'?
 
 No problem, below are the results of the two commands. Question - do I 
 have to use rc.firewall? 

No you can create your own configuration file for ipfw. You need these
two line in rc.conf:

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_type=/etc/firewall.conf

The configuration file looks something like:
add divert natd ip from any to any via xl1
add allow ip from any to any

 Or is it just a generic ruleset that can be 
 replaced by a custom ruleset, as I have done (called firewall.rules 
 pasted in below)?

Its posible to place your own ruleset in the default script, but i would
adive *not* to do this, because when you update this file can be
overriden in the process.

 here is ipfw s results -
 
 00100 1571924 1218317046 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1
 00200 3144909 2436915536 allow ip from any to any
 00300   0  0 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1
 00400   0  0 allow ip from any to any
 00500   0  0 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1
 65535   0  0 deny ip from any to any

The result of rc.firewall can be seen with ipfw l and ipfw s (show). The
later gives the same information as ipfw l (list). The two values are
number of packets and the number of bytes that applied to a rule.

A couple of comments 
1. Here you have tree rules with divert natd. Normaly you want a packet
to pass natd only one time.
2. Rule 200 is to allow everyting so  the others aren't looked at.
3. This firewall allows every packed to pass.

You may like to have a look at my home page. I have an artile about how
to setup a firewall, that may proof to be usefull to you.

-- 
Alex

Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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