kern.maxdsiz big memory/tuning questions

2005-12-13 Thread Michael Dexter


Hello, I'm trying to RTFM but the M does not appear to exist.

I am dealing with processes over 512MB in size on 6.0 on x86 and am 
using these loader.conf tunables as suggested by MySQL and other 
documentation:


kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 # 1GB
kern.dfldsiz=1073741824 # 1GB
kern.maxssiz=134217728 # 128MB

I can glean so far that:

1. You don't want to exceed physical memory with these
2. These are listed in /boot/defaults/loader.conf
3. This is not controlled by sysctls :)
4. 'limits' will show what they are currently set to

However, I am not clear if:

1. It is permitted to use M and G notation (kern.maxsiz=1G)? - 
some say yes, some say no and I would prefer not risk the system not 
booting.


2. Which tunables actually matter beyond kern.maxdsiz? Some say only 
kern.maxdsiz and some suggest all three. 'man tuning' and the 
handbook (~/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html) only goes into 
maxfiles and maxusers. Searches of this list and Google have yeilded 
what you see above.


Could someone please share some wisdom or docs on this matter?

Much appreciated,

Michael.
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Re: ipfilter question

2005-12-13 Thread Rob Lytle


  Here's my setup:
 
  /etc/rc.conf
  ipmon_enable=YES
  ipmon_flags=-Dns
 
  /etc/syslog.conf
  security.*  /var/log/ipfilter.log
 
 
  Make sure you don't have any other security.* facility specified in
  /etc/syslog.conf
 
 yes, there is no other security.* facility, actually i got it working
 to log on my file (/var/log/ipfilter.log) but it also logs on
 /var/log/messages. I only want to log on my file.
 
 
  
   thanks
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I have the problem that ipmon logs to /var/log/messages and nothing
goes to /var/log/ipf.log.  Even after using the info in this thread.  I
am using local0 as was suggested for FreeBSD 6.0.  Earlier I was using
security.* which didn't work either.  I suppose that at the least, I
need to remove something from the /var/log/messages line.

Here is my syslog.conf:

*.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit/dev/console
*.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err   
/var/log/messages
local0.*/var/log/ipf.log
auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log
mail.info   /var/log/maillog
lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
ftp.info/var/log/xferlog
cron.*  /var/log/cron
*.=debug/var/log/debug.log

Thanks,  Rob.

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Re: Off-Topic

2005-12-13 Thread Pietro Cerutti
I'm for this one:

The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s^2

by Roland

It's wonderful!

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Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names

2005-12-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar


to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server

10.

seems not to work.


I think--but don't *quote* me:) -- that the host-names
file does eactly what ^Cwhostname does in sendmail.cf.
So if your host were named foo, you would put ^foo in
local-host-names.

Anybody else?

i thought it's like sendmail.cw - even in .mc file it's said that's just 
different filename.


things worked different in NetBSD (sendmail 8.13.3) than in FreeBSD 6.0 
(8.13.4).



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Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names

2005-12-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I think you need to put that in /etc/mail/access  as

10  RELAY

and then do a
#make maps

Check the Makefile in /etc/mail/ for more on the make
option

Read /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README for more info.


thanks.

so what does local-host-names control?

exactly as filename states? what domain does this server handle?
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pine

2005-12-13 Thread caleb

Hi everyone,
   I am having some problems setting up pine  .pinerc using 
FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for 
outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl.

 Pine was compiled and installed with support for POP3

here are some lines from my .pinerc;

smtp-server=mail.myisp.net.au

inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3}inbox

When I launch pine with the above settings Pine uses INSECURE login and 
password. Even though the login is INSECURE, I can access my mail and use

newsgroups.

I have tried using;

inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox

but when I launch pine I get the error message;

'Can't do secure authentication with this server'

If you can offer advice could you please CC me as I am not subscribed to 
the questions list. I know this question is not an OS question, but I

do not like the idea of sending my login details unencrypted through
the ISP network.

Thankyou,

caleb

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Re: version 6!

2005-12-13 Thread John Nielsen
After realizing how long I made this little explanation, I decided it might 
be helpful to someone if I made it available on the freebsd-questions 
mailing list.  List: take the following for what it's worth.

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 07:00 pm, ntkonn wrote:
 Crap amighty, I just upgraded FreeBSD.  When did they
 go to 6?

Yes, 6.  You might want to consider subscribing to the freebsd-announce 
mailing list (http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce).

Also, the release of FreeBSD 6.0 does not mean you are running an outdated 
version of FreeBSD (yet).  The 5.x branch is basically in maintenance 
mode, but a 5.5 release is planned.  I doubt that 5.x will be retired 
before 6.1 has been out for a while.

 Are you running 6?  Anything in it make it 
 worth the trouble to upgrade?  Should I upgrade just
 so I don't get too far behind?

FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE breaks the mold for a dot nought release in that it is 
both relatively painless to upgrade and quite stable to run.  Take a look 
at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/, and pay particular attention to the 
announcement and release notes for 6.0.

As for reasons to upgrade, you can determine that yourself from the release 
notes, etc., but in my view there's no good reason not to.  Not lagging 
behind is also a good way to go in general.  The best (read: 
non-adventurous) way to do that is to follow releases, or possibly by 
tracking -STABLE.  (Releases are merely extra-well-tested, nicely packaged 
snapshots of the -STABLE branch of development.)  (If you're curious, the 
adventurous way to stay current is to track -CURRENT.  All new (and 
possibly untested) development happens in -CURRENT, and is backported to 
-STABLE only if it doesn't break compatibility and after it has been tested 
for a set period of time.)  See also 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html 
(and the rest of chapter 20 of the handbook).

As I alluded to in my prior e-mail, I am running 6-STABLE both at home and 
at work with no problems.  6.0-RELEASE is also a good modern-but-not-scary 
candidate.

 uname -a produces:

 FreeBSD asus.konneker 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE
 #0: Wed Nov  2 19:13:15 EST 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

That means you're running 5-STABLE from a little over a month ago.  The gap 
between 5 and 6 is pretty narrow at this point, but it will probably widen 
with time (little if any new development is making its way into 5, since 6 
is now stable).  You can do one of four things (actually 5, but the 5th 
is not recommended):

1) Not upgrade your system.  Not recommended for long-term use, but not 
necessarily a bad thing at any given time.  Plan on doing one of the other 
options, but use this one until it's convenient to upgrade.

2) Continue tracking 5-STABLE.  You could update your sources to the latest 
in the 5.x branch, using cvsup and a src supfile with the RELENG_5 tag.  
Rebuilding your world and kernel at that point would give you a 5-STABLE 
with today's date.  This option is better than (1) above, since it will 
incorporate security and other critical fixes, but still doesn't get you 
very far in terms of new functionality or staying up-to-date.  This option 
could also be a useful stepping-stone prior to upgrading to 6, but since 
your current system is very close to this already it's not strictly 
necessary.  If you wait a while to upgrade to 6, then you will definitely 
want to upgrade to the most current 5-STABLE beforehand.

3) Upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE.  This is most easily done by changing the tag in 
your src supfile to RELENG_6_0, updating your sources, and rebuilding world 
and kernel.  You will likely also need to rebuild/reinstall most or all of 
your ports to reflect new versions of the system libraries (this step is 
only typical of upgrades across major release numbers (like 5 to 6) and is 
not necessary for minor release upgrades (like 6.0 to 6.1).  This is a 
strong option, since it gives you a well-tested release and keeps you from 
needing to do a major version upgrade for the entire lifecycle of FreeBSD 
6.x.  Even if you go with (4) below, you should do this first.

4) Upgrade to 6-STABLE.  To do this you would change the tag in your src 
supfile to RELENG_6.  The main advantage of this option is that you can do 
many incremental updates.  This allows you to get new features without 
waiting for the next release, and also lets you deal with potential bumps 
in the upgrade path in smaller doses.  There is the added risk (compared to 
(3) of encountering bugs or other hurdles that might not show up in a 
release, but in my experience that risk is minimal.

5) (Listed for completeness only.  Typically only experienced (and/or 
brave/benevolent/eager, etc.) users wishing to be actively engaged in the 
development and testing process should do this.) Upgrade to 7-CURRENT.  You 
would do this by changing the tag in your src supfile to . (just a 
period, 

Re: Multiple CPUs

2005-12-13 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:54 -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
  I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs?
  
  esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today
  CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU)
Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
  cpu0: ACPI CPU (2 Cx states) on acpi0
  
  Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on
  the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options.
 
 FYI, hyperthreading is not a real CPU, and it seems to *really* hurt
 performance on most workloads.  You'll probably benefit from not using
 it.

Yeah, I got the SMP option built into the kernel and still with less
than 700 messages in the queue, very little else going on beside Postfix
with amavis content filtering, my CPU idle is 0% most the time. This is
on my freshly built FreeBSD 5.4 with dual Xeon 2.4 processors and a GB
RAM. You think that could be related to HT? I will have to make a visit
to the data center to remove in BIOS.

Here's my top procs:

last pid:  2079;  load averages:  8.31,  8.91,  8.43up 0
+00:35:15  20:57:53
149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping
CPU states: 54.2% user,  0.0% nice, 21.8% system,  8.3% interrupt, 15.8%
idle
Mem: 747M Active, 85M Inact, 146M Wired, 17M Cache, 111M Buf, 1656K Free
Swap: 2021M Total, 213M Used, 1808M Free, 10% Inuse, 636K In, 1496K Out

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPUCPU
COMMAND
 1727 postfix  1290  7884K  4016K RUN2   1:14 64.06% 64.06%
cleanup
 1620 postfix  1280  7884K  3684K RUN3   0:52 42.48% 42.48%
cleanup
 2031 vscan1160   227M   125M RUN0   0:44 31.25% 31.20%
perl5.8.6
 1892 vscan1160   230M  2884K RUN0   1:44 629.00% 30.71%
perl5.8.6
 1726 postfix  1110  7884K  4020K RUN0   0:57 18.55% 18.55%
cleanup
 2035 vscan -80   228M   123M piperd 0   0:36 17.57% 17.53%
perl5.8.6
 2042 vscan1110   227M   122M RUN2   0:26 16.86% 16.75%
perl5.8.6
 1889 vscan -80   238M   130M piperd 2   1:41 15.58% 15.58%
perl5.8.6
 1898 vscan1190   229M   125M RUN0   1:38 13.48% 13.48%
perl5.8.6
 2018 vscan1050   226M   121M RUN0   0:36 11.43% 11.43%
perl5.8.6
 2016 vscan1050   226M   122M RUN0   0:35 10.75% 10.74%
perl5.8.6
 1646 vscan1030   232M   129M CPU1   0   3:45  9.42%  9.42%
perl5.8.6
 1894 vscan1070   227M   124M CPU3   0   1:37  7.03%  7.03%
perl5.8.6
 1659 postfix40  7884K 8K select 0   1:02  0.00%  6.35%
cleanup
 1724 postfix  -200  7884K  3908K swread 0   0:47  1.37%  1.37%
cleanup
 2075 postfix   960  7876K  5764K select 0   0:00  1.27%  0.93%
cleanup
 2077 vscan-160  2084K  1024K vmpfw  0   0:00  0.62%  0.34% file
 2078 vscan-160  2084K  1048K spread 0   0:00  3.00%  0.15% file
  565 vscan 200 15432K 11336K kserel 0   0:19  1.00%  0.05%
clamd
 2013 root   40  9220K  1772K select 0   0:00  0.05%  0.05%
smtpd
  488 vscan  40   224M 8K select 0   0:31  0.00%  0.00%
perl5.8.6
  661 root  960  3828K   816K select 0   0:04  0.00%  0.00%
master
  613 mysql 200 57308K  2236K kserel 0   0:02  0.00%  0.00%
mysqld
 1619 postfix   960  4348K   932K select 0   0:02  0.00%  0.00%
trivial-rewrite
  333 root  960  1324K   240K select 0   0:02  0.00%  0.00%
syslogd
  745 root   40  7272K   948K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00% perl
 1599 postfix40  5072K 8K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00% qmgr
 1882 root  960  2596K  1136K CPU0   0   0:01  0.00%  0.00% top
  558 root   40 26004K   836K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00%
httpd
  722 ldap  200 29132K48K kserel 1   0:01  0.00%  0.00%
slapd
 1751 root   40  9288K 8K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 1716 root  200  9288K   896K lockf  0   0:01  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 2039 postfix40  4180K 8K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00%
flush
  897 admin  40  6144K   348K select 0   0:01  0.00%  0.00% sshd
 1747 root   40  9276K 8K select 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 1612 root   40  9264K  1588K select 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 1717 root   40  9396K  1268K kqread 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 1737 root  960  9272K  1732K select 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
 1715 root   40  9252K  1852K select 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00%
smtpd
  442 root   40  1244K 8K select 0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% usbd


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Re: pine

2005-12-13 Thread RW
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 01:01, caleb wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I am having some problems setting up pine  .pinerc using
 FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for
 outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl.
  

 I have tried using;

 inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox

 but when I launch pine I get the error message;

 'Can't do secure authentication with this server'

If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there 
nothing you can do to protect your password.
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Re: Multiple CPUs

2005-12-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:00:13PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:54 -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
   I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs?
   
   esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today
   CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
   cpu0: ACPI CPU (2 Cx states) on acpi0
   
   Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on
   the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options.
  
  FYI, hyperthreading is not a real CPU, and it seems to *really* hurt
  performance on most workloads.  You'll probably benefit from not using
  it.
 
 Yeah, I got the SMP option built into the kernel and still with less
 than 700 messages in the queue, very little else going on beside Postfix
 with amavis content filtering, my CPU idle is 0% most the time. This is
 on my freshly built FreeBSD 5.4 with dual Xeon 2.4 processors and a GB
 RAM. You think that could be related to HT? I will have to make a visit
 to the data center to remove in BIOS.

CPU idle time doesn't measure how well your system is performing, it
only tells you when it's reaching capacity in its current
configuration.  You need to compare how much work it can do
with/without HTT (e.g. how many messages can it process/hour, if you
have a more or less constant input?)

Kris


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Re: ipfilter question

2005-12-13 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Rob Lytle thusly...

 
 
   Here's my setup:
...
   in /etc/syslog.conf
  
  yes, there is no other security.* facility, actually i got it
  working

Please keep the attribution  attribute the respective authors.


 I have the problem that ipmon logs to /var/log/messages and nothing
 goes to /var/log/ipf.log.  Even after using the info in this thread.
 I am using local0 as was suggested for FreeBSD 6.0.  Earlier I was
 using security.* which didn't work either.  I suppose that at the
 least, I need to remove something from the /var/log/messages line.
 
...
 *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err 
 /var/log/messages
 local0.*  /var/log/ipf.log

Like authpriv.none to stop auth messages going into
/var/log/messages, you will need to add local0.none (or replace
local0 w/ whatever the actual facility is used) after *.notice;.

According to ipmon(8) on 5.4, passed  logged packets are logged w/
level of 'notice'. So you should be seeing only the passed packets in
'/var/log/messages'.  Rest of the messages, will go wherever
(local0|security|*).(info|warn|err) messages go.


Or, you could ...

  - give a file name to ipmon(8) to log messages in
  - remove the -s option to not to log via syslogd(8)
  - put the ipmon facility.none, in /etc/syslog.cong, to avoid
other files receiving ipf messages.
  - adjust /etc/newsyslog.conf to properly rotate the ipmon log
files.


Don't forget to read up on syslog.conf(5), newsyslog.conf(5),
and ipmon(8) in any case.


  - Parv

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Re: ipfilter question

2005-12-13 Thread Elmer Rivera
Got it working. forgot to add security.none after *.notice;
Thanks guys...
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Re: pine

2005-12-13 Thread caleb



On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, RW wrote:


If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there
nothing you can do to protect your password.


Hi RW,
Thanks for your reply. Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login 
details or kerberos?


caleb

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Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff D. Hamann

ah... that's the ticket!

thanks!

jeff. 

- Original Message - 
From: Tino Boss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Jeff D. Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6?



Jeff D. Hamann wrote:


mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data
mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument


I remember having had a similar problem and it was just a that it was an 
extended partition and somehow it was not displayed with the correct 
number in some utility. If that's your case you might just need another 
device-name. I think numbering for extended partitions starts at 5 (eg. 
ad0s5).


regards
Tino






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Re: pine

2005-12-13 Thread Mac Mason
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:12:38PM +1100, caleb wrote:
 Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login 
 details or kerberos?

Nope. Unless the ISP's mail server supports some form of encryption,
there's nothing you can do. 

On the other hand, your desktop machine is probably only about two
hops from your mail server, and those are inside the ISP's data
center, so there isn't much chance for somebody to sniff your
credentials.

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IMAP-UW Security question

2005-12-13 Thread Jose Borquez
Just recently installed IMAP-UW through ports and once the install 
finished I got the following security message:


SECURITY REPORT:
 This port has installed the following binaries which execute with
 increased privileges.
/usr/local/libexec/mlock

What can I do to minimize this security risk?  Do I create an mlock user?

Thanks in advance,
Jose

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Re: Multiple CPUs

2005-12-13 Thread Bob Lee
Quoting Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Here's my top procs:
 
 last pid:  2079;  load averages:  8.31,  8.91,  8.43up 0
 +00:35:15  20:57:53
 149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping

Robert,
FWIW, I did some research a short time ago on utilization and other
aspects of watching performance and I found that 'load' provided
better insight FOR ME into what the system is doing. I wasn't able to
find much on load, but if I understand it correctly, part of what it
shows is the queue on the processor(s). 8 seems high, even by today's
standards and real high by the standards of yesteryear when the load
function was originally created. You may want to spend some time
researching load and see what you come up with.

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Re: IMAP-UW Security question

2005-12-13 Thread Frank Steinborn
Jose Borquez wrote:
 SECURITY REPORT:
  This port has installed the following binaries which execute with
  increased privileges.
 /usr/local/libexec/mlock
 
 What can I do to minimize this security risk?  Do I create an mlock user?

In fact, every port that installs a suid-binary will show this warning.
Creating a user won't help, mlock will run as root (that is what it's
about). Just keep the port up-to-date and it's ok.

Frank
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I need a better way to loop in the shell...

2005-12-13 Thread user

I always do loops in /bin/sh like this:

for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done

Easy.  I like doing it like this.

The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has multiple
words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a new line...

For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this:

# cat file

10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3
10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3
10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3

and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is a line
... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files:

10,000
Maniacs
MTV
Unplugged
-
01
-
These

(and so on)

Even if I quote the variable $f, like:

for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done

it still does the same thing.

-

So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as
close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this
problem ?  Should I just be using something other than `cat` ?  Or what ?

THanks.

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Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell...

2005-12-13 Thread Robert Eckardt
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500 (EST), user wrote
 I always do loops in /bin/sh like this:
 
 for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done

Hi,

try instead:
cat file | while read f ; do rm -f $f ; done

In your command `file' is presented as 
10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV
Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy
Everybody Wants.mp3 ...
while the for-loop cuts the arguments at spaces.
read reads the rest of the line in its last (and only -- in this case)
argument into a single variable.

Regards,
Robert
 
 Easy.  I like doing it like this.
 
 The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has 
 multiple words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a 
 new line...
 
 For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this:
 
 # cat file
 
 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3
 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3
 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3
 
 and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is 
 a line ... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files:
 
 10,000
 Maniacs
 MTV
 Unplugged
 -
 01
 -
 These
 
 (and so on)
 
 Even if I quote the variable $f, like:
 
 for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done
 
 it still does the same thing.
 
 -
 
 So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as
 close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this
 problem ?  Should I just be using something other than `cat` ?  Or 
 what ?
 
 THanks.
 
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Re: Multiple CPUs

2005-12-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:50:39PM -0700, Bob Lee wrote:
 Quoting Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Here's my top procs:
  
  last pid:  2079;  load averages:  8.31,  8.91,  8.43up 0
  +00:35:15  20:57:53
  149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping
 
 Robert,
 FWIW, I did some research a short time ago on utilization and other
 aspects of watching performance and I found that 'load' provided
 better insight FOR ME into what the system is doing. I wasn't able to
 find much on load, but if I understand it correctly, part of what it
 shows is the queue on the processor(s). 8 seems high, even by today's
 standards and real high by the standards of yesteryear when the load
 function was originally created. You may want to spend some time
 researching load and see what you come up with.

Load just measures how many processes want to run, not how fast or
slow they're running.  There is no substitute for actually measuring
how much work your system can get done on your particular workload.

Kris


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When using make install for php5 it fails

2005-12-13 Thread Jose Borquez
When attempting to install php5 from ports it attempts to download, but 
I get the following errors:


Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.1.1.tar.bz2: 
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

= Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
= port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5.

Is it asking me to cd into the /distfiles/ directory and then manually 
ftp the file?  If so, what do I need to run in order to install it?


Thanks in advance,
Jose

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Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell...

2005-12-13 Thread Norberto Meijome

user wrote:

I always do loops in /bin/sh like this:

for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done

Easy.  I like doing it like this.

The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has multiple
words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a new line...

For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this:

# cat file

10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3
10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3
10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3

and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is a line
... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files:

10,000
Maniacs
MTV
Unplugged
-
01
-
These

(and so on)

Even if I quote the variable $f, like:

for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done

it still does the same thing.

-

So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as
close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this
problem ?  Should I just be using something other than `cat` ?  Or what ?


you can redefine the character(s) used by your shell for delimiting 
words after expansion. In Bash , this is the env var IFS. so , if you 
know there are no ;, you can say


export IFS=;
[your loop here]
export IFS=

and you should be set.

man bash for more info.

Beto
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RE: Lousy network performance ...

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Turn on SNMP on your router plugged into the adsl modem and use a
tool like mrtg to graph the circuit utilization.

Also, access your adsl modem's error counters and find out what your
signal to noise ratio is, what your received decibel level is, if your
taking
errors, and such.  Some of the consumer modems do not have these
counters accessible and can only be queried via the DSLAM operator.

Your service provider is right to push the problem back to you because
it almost certainly is not their network.  If it was their network you
would
notice a definite change at different time of days - if they are
overloaded
then at 4:00am you should get lightning speed.  If your DSL sucks at
that time then it's your problem, not their network.

Unfortunately for you, however, your service provider didn't explain
to you what you need to do to properly troubleshoot this.  It could
possibly be that you ASSUMED the problem was their network and
pissed them off when you called in.  I would suggest you call them
again, politely, and ask, not demand, that they check signal levels
and error counters on your phone line.  If they can't do this then have
them refer you to the telco that can.

One other piece of advice for you, if your goal is to prove the ISP
is wrong then you ought to just find another ISP.  Your goal should
be to find out the cause of the slowness, not in assessing blame.
If your using a consumer ISP it is likely the first level tech support
people probably cannot help you since their main job is helping
people fix their misguided PC desktops, and they usually aren't
even allowed to touch the back end equipment. But they can in
fact hurt you badly by simply not passing you to the upper-level
tech people who could help you.  So, be nice to them.

Ted

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:16 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Lousy network performance ...


I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection,
especially while
surfing around the web.

My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of
course!) and
that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' I have
configured on
my home network on my side of the connection.

On my side of the adsl-modem/router I have a router which is connected
directly to two Windows XP desktops, via a switch to two
FreeBSD machines
(webserver and fileserver) and via a wireless link my combo
FreeBSD/Windows
XP laptop. I have Samba running for file exchange bweteen the
Windows and
FreeBSD boxes and I have port 80 opened on the
adsl-moden/router to allow
access to a couple of web sites I am running.

Is there some kind of way to prove my ISP is wrong by doing a
trace? What
tools are available? How can I demonstrate that the bottleneck is not my
home network but the DSL-connection?

Thanks a lot in advance.

--
Kiffin Rex Gish
Gouda, The Netherlands

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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gayn Winters
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:49 AM
To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; 'Winelfred G. Pasamba'; 'Yance Kowara'
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted
 Mittelstaedt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Winelfred G.
 Pasamba
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM
 To: Yance Kowara
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
 
 i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com)
 

 Sigh.

 THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR
 NETWORKING TERMS

 I refer you to the pfsense website itself:

http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=13525lang=enaction=artikelcat=6;
id=18artlang=en

 Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis.
All
 packets in a given flow will go over only one link.

 In other words, they are redefining the term load balancing into
 something that is not understood by any previously accepted definition
 of load balancing, so that people like you can think your getting
 something for nothing.

 Once more - FTP to a remote site with your dual DSL links.  Copy
 a FreeBSD ISO file to there.  Watch as the upload speed IS NO FASTER
 THAN ONE OF THE LINKS.

 Ted

I just looked at the pfsense site, and for an Internet Café, it looks
promising.  Two DSL lines to different ISP's does give a small amount of
redundancy.  Whether you use two routers or pfsense, you get some sort
of load sharing but not load balancing.  A more appropriate
performance test for an Internet Café would be:

Take a dozen PC's each to transfer a FreeBSD 6.0R ISO file from a dozen
different mirror sites.  Start them at the same time and see how long
the all of the transfers take.

You can test one DSL connection at N kbps and two DSL connections both
at N kbps.  You'll undoubtedly see the effect of load sharing if the
dozen PC's are more or less evenly divided over the two DSL lines.

The redundancy isn't great, and you will pay for it.  Namely, two N kbps
connections will cost you more than one 2N connection.  If you ran my
benchmark on a 2N connection you might actually see an improvement over
two N kbps connections due to to its inherent load balancing.  In any
case, with a single (or a small number) of users (Ted's benchmark test)
you would definitely see an improvement over two N kbps connections.

Now the question:  is a faster AND cheaper 2N connection a better setup
than two N kbps connections for our fabled Internet Café?


NO.

As I pointed out the MOST COMMON failure mode on DSL is SLOWNESS
not DISCONNECTS.  If you have a 2N connection and one of the DSL
modems starts going gunnysack, you are really going to have to
know your stuff to be able to detect this and fix it.  If the modem
picks 9:35pm at night to do this, or some other inconvenient time,
like seems to be the normal time for failures to happen, I
guarentee your not going to get anyone at the ISP who knows
shit from shinola to help you, and your going to be spinning your
wheels.

For the fabled Internet Cafe, really and truly and honestly, the
crude solution that the previous owner worked out is the best -
it is easy for relatively unsophisticated people (such as the
minimum wage high school student you hired to watch the place
after school) to troubleshoot, it is easy to get assistance from
the ISP on the failed leg, since the configuration is very basic and
standard, and it is dirt cheap.

I realize the temptation to mess with a running setup is strong,
and the temptation to change around something you buy so as to
put your own stamp on it is even stronger.  But it is a great way
to have terrible monsters come storming out of the closet that
the existing config was developed to work around.

I'd personally go with the 2N connection.  Almost all the time it would
be better.  Most large ISPs, for a little more money of course, will
give you a faster response time on repairs.  The ISP might even provide
a bank of modems and you could implement multilink PPP as your backup.


2N is great if you need to ship large data items around and your site
is way far away from the DSLAM.  But it is more complex and so you
need to be using it when the big guns both at the ISP and the
organization
are not in bed - meaning 9-5 - so that if problems happen they are
available to get them solved.  Think office environments for this.

Ted

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RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song)

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:48 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: Michael Vince; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Kris Kennaway
Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM:



-Original Message-
From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: Michael Vince; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Kris Kennaway
Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
Theme Song)


On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



Michael,

 Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists:

it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in


from the network into the ethernet receiver.  This is hardware


dependent and cannot be changed.

It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of
the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also
hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device
driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not)

Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through
a number of code statements.  The more code statements the
longer the information in the packet is sitting around in
the FreeBSD system's memory.

It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information
out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers,

and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the
wire.

Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of
things, not in the ethernet driver code.

polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data
rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within
the TCPIP stack itself.  At low data rates polling is less
efficient than the interrupt method.  And unless the nic driver
is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the
packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent
in the TCP/IP stack.

Ted




Thanks for the explanation.  So would polling be beneficial or
detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card?



Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth through it.



I assume you mean yes it's beneficial?  :)


Yes. :-)

Not sure if 100 mbps is
considered high or low speed.  I'm specifically interested in
NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink cards using the rl driver.




The rl chipset isn't known as a very good chipset. YMMV



Yeah, I've heard that a lot.  It was an old card I had lying around and
it seems to work OK for me.  I'm not using it for anything other that
connecting to a 802.11b wireless bridge.  Very little traffic.


This post is passing through 2 of these cards on my home BSD router.

Fortunately these days since so many mboards are coming with onboard
ethernet, the used market is awash in nice PCI ethernet cards.

Some of the Netgear cards use clone 21143 chipsets which are
extremely inferior to the real thing.  In particular if your
Netgear card is using a PNIC chipset it is pretty bad with serious
performance penalty.  This is documented in Section 4 of the
dc manpage.



This is disapointing.  I was under the impression that NetGear cards
were pretty good.  But now I looked closer at dmesg.boot and see I have
the PNIC chipset you mention.  I'll read the dc man page to see what
penalties I'm suffering.

People seem to have good results with polling on the fxp cards.



Ah, the built in interface on a HP e60 server I have.  It's an old dog
used as a file server.  It has been nothing but reliable and is still
chuggin' along just fine.  I'll enable polling on it and see if there's
any noticeable improvement in transfer rates.  The machine that
typically is used for large file transfers to and from the e60  is a
Windows XP box that has a Nvidia Nforce 4 chipset and whatever
intergrated ethernet port that comes with that chipset.  Are there any
known issues with this setup that would invalidate my test?


Yes.  The old dog may not be able to take packets off the fxp chip
fast enough if your hitting it with 100Mbt of data - which your Nforce
chipset running on a nice new multigigahertz mboard is probably able
to do.  This is a CPU speed thing not an architecture thing, and polling
won't make any difference.  But, OTOH, windows is pretty inefficient
so the network performance of a multigigahertz windows box might
just equal that of a under-a-gigahertz mboard running UNIX.

Ted

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Re: kern.maxdsiz big memory/tuning questions

2005-12-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Michael Dexter wrote:
[ ... ]
 However, I am not clear if:
 
 1. It is permitted to use M and G notation (kern.maxsiz=1G)? -
 some say yes, some say no and I would prefer not risk the system not
 booting.

Using 1G or some number followed by M is working for me in 5.x and 6.0.

 2. Which tunables actually matter beyond kern.maxdsiz? Some say only
 kern.maxdsiz and some suggest all three. 'man tuning' and the handbook
 (~/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html) only goes into maxfiles and
 maxusers. Searches of this list and Google have yeilded what you see above.
 
 Could someone please share some wisdom or docs on this matter?

The stuff listed in /etc/defaults/loader.conf is probably the most complete
reference outside of the kernel source code itself, but you might find looking
at the corresponding sysctl -d output for the variables in question.  Note
that the loader and sysctl don't always use the same name.

Other than that, check what limits you're seeing in the shell you run.  And
double-check under /bin/sh too, for cron jobs or stuff started at boot.  :-)

-- 
-Chuck
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Re: you need mirror from israel?

2005-12-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
YairNet LinuxServ wrote:
 Hello 
 we Compay WebHosting (Www.linuxserv.co.il)
 You need to mirror freebsd from israel ,if yes give me help so mirror
 good day.

It's likely that this document will tell you all about mirroring FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.html

Thanks for your interest,
-- 
-Chuck
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doubts

2005-12-13 Thread Anirban Adhikary
Hi guys
This is Anirban. I have a doubts on the following question.

How to write a shell program that will check whether a server is up or down
(on ping) and log the report to a file.

Hope i will receive my answer soon.

With regards
Anirban.
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nfs exporting mounted iso files ?

2005-12-13 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
Hello Family,

I have been trying to export four mounted iso images under /mnt on my
FreeBSD-5.4 box via nfs and I can export everything under /mnt but the
iso's don't show up on the client, only the directories.

First I mounted all the iso's with the following series of
commands.

mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file1.iso -u 1
mount -t cd9660 /dev/md1 /mnt/loop1

mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file1.iso -u 2
mount -t cd9660 /dev/md2 /mnt/loop2

mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file3.iso -u 3
mount -t cd9660 /dev/md3 /mnt/loop3

mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file4.iso -u 4
mount -t cd9660 /dev/md4 /mnt/loop4

#
ere is my /etc/exportfs on the FreeBSD-5.4 server

/mnt-maproot=0  -network 192.168.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0

#

Here are the mounted iso's via the mount command on the server.

/dev/md1 on /mnt/loop1 (cd9660, local, read-only)
/dev/md2 on /mnt/loop2 (cd9660, local, read-only)
/dev/md3 on /mnt/loop3 (cd9660, local, read-only)
/dev/md4 on /mnt/loop4 (cd9660, local, read-only)

#

On the other Unix client box I can mount the exported /mnt and see
all the
/mnt/loop* but no contents.

On the other Unix client box I can also mount /mnt/loop1 and still
not see any contents under /mnt/loop1

On the server the directories are full of contents under

/mnt/loop1
/mnt/loop2
/mnt/loop3
/mnt/loop4

I'm thinking that I can nfs export iso filesystems on other
flavors of Unix like systems but not on FreeBSD.

Am I missing anything obvious or...?

TIA


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Can't connect to local MySQL server

2005-12-13 Thread Jose Borquez
I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group 
Office using

mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors:

mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'

Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists!

I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there.

Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to 
correct this?


Thank you in advance,
Jose

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Re: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went up

2005-12-13 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Chuck Swiger thusly...

 Parv wrote:
...
  Is there a way to find out the amount of traffic (in  out)
  since a network interface has been up (not since the OS has been
  up)?
 
 There are lots of solutions to this problem, it kinda depends on
 what you're trying to do.

Well, actually i want to know the limit(s) (related to amount of
data and number of connections) at which SMC Barricade 7004ABR
router allows only the already established connections and refuses
to allow any new ones.  This is all related to download a large
torrent via rtorrent.  Rebooting the router solves the problem until
i decide to restart the download.


 You might set up an IPFW rule which matches just the traffic you
 care about, and look at ipfw -a l.  You can zero the counters at
 will if you like, too.  From the ipfw manpage:
 
  Per-flow queueing can be useful for a variety of purposes.  A
  very simple one is counting traffic:

Thanks for bringing that to my attention as I mainly use ipf  have
not paid much of a look to ipfw.


  - Parv

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Re: When using make install for php5 it fails

2005-12-13 Thread Björn König

Jose Borquez schrieb:
When attempting to install php5 from ports it attempts to download, but 
I get the following errors:


Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.1.1.tar.bz2: 
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

[...]


Is this the complete output? Have you set MASTER_SITES somewhere, e.g. 
in /etc/make.conf? If so, remove it.


A workaround would be to download the file manually and place it in 
ports/distfiles. After you have done this, use the port again to install it.


Björn
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Re: Can't connect to local MySQL server

2005-12-13 Thread Björn König

Jose Borquez schrieb:
I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group 
Office using

mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors:

mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'

Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists!

I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there.

Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to 
correct this?


I install MySQL this way and the socket is there for me:

# rm -R /var/db/mysql   // removes old databases
# pkg_add -r mysql41-server // install software
# ls -l /tmp/mysql.sock
ls: /tmp/mysql.sock: No such file or directory
# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh forcestart// start server
# ls -l /tmp/mysql.sock
srwxrwxrwx  1 mysql  wheel  0 14 Dez 08:32 /tmp/mysql.sock
# echo 'mysql_enable=YES'  /etc/rc.conf

That's it.

Björn
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Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell...

2005-12-13 Thread Björn König

Hello user,

This worked for me:

  xargs -I% rm %  file


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