Re: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

2007-10-17 Thread williamkow

   Can anybody teach me on how to run Windows XP Professional on top of
   FreeBSD 6.2.
   I mean is, after FreeBSD is installed, KDE is running, and the Windows
   XP prof is running on another separate pop-up windows within KDE.
   Thanks.
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   David Christensen wrote:

williamkow wrote:
  

Please provide me more advices on installing multi operating system
in a computer.


Don't.  Get the VMware free player or server and download the virtual machines.
Or, get two hard drives, put them into mobile docks, and do a power down/ swap/
power up cycle when you want to switch.  Or, get your hands on a 5+ year old
machine, get a KVM switch, and put BSD on that.


HTH,

David

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Re: Amanda failing on sendsize

2007-10-17 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 try the amanda users email group...seems to be someone else having similar
 problems, or is that that you as well??

If that was a couple days ago, it was me, only I went a bit further in
investigation :)

Thanks,

Olivier
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Peter Boosten


 Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl


 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)


 What is sploger?



Sploger:
someone with little or no accuracy with there penis, and a genetic problem
cause then to ejaculate solid sploge like nuggets instead of the norm.

(source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sploger)

Doesn't sound good. What does fstat (or lsof) say?

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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 16 October 2007, Jack Raats said:
 HI

 Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl

 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)

 What is sploger?

 Jack

I believe that's part of qmail.

Beech

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 04:22:58AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 03:47:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  I'm in the middle of a portupgrade -aP, and saw that the newest
  mga driver is installed.
  So I did another X -configure, moved the file to
  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and carefully tried out the new
  xf86-video-mga-1.9.100..  The screen is much brighter at the
  resolution is good, but the brightness is still very dingy
  compared to the vesa driver.  There is nothing wrong with my
  CRT; on the other KVM connections (and/or) with the vesa driver 
  at 800x600, the screen is completely bright.  Is there some other
  ati driver yet to finish?  
 
 The ati driver is for ATI chips like the Radeon.
 
 You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
 running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
 this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.


Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
it to on??

thanks lots,

gary

PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
black.  (*mumble*)


 
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Regarding Flow of sendto (UDP) using IPv6.

2007-10-17 Thread Prasad Dandra
Dear All,

First, I would like to thank you all for the wonderful work of developing
FreeBSD.
I have some doubts regarding the BSD stack flow.
I am very much interested to know the code flow from sendto (UDP case) upto
udp6_output function when used in IPv6 client (simple client) and also how
the local port and destination address are assigned without using bind
when 1st time the sendto is called i.e  where the pcbconnect and pcbbind are
called (particularly in case of ipv6)?

Any information provided about the links, books to be refered for more
details will also be helpful.

Thank and Regards,
Prasad
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Peter Boosten
On Wed, October 17, 2007 08:44, Beech Rintoul wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 October 2007, Jack Raats said:



 What is sploger?


 Jack


 I believe that's part of qmail.



No, that's splogger.

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XScreenSaver

2007-10-17 Thread Bruce Alcock
Hi

My XScreenSaver is configured to come on and then a bit later suspend the
monitors...now this works, but only sometimes actually gets around to
suspending the monitors. I emailed the author a while ago about it and he
suggested I turned on logging...there doesn't seem to be an option in
XScreenSaver for logging, so my question is what logging is he talking about
and how do I use it? (he thought the mouse was moving ever so slightly every
now and then, but this isn't the case since I unplugged my mouse last night
and it still didn't suspend)

Thanks
Bruce Alcock
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Libtool cannot find correct libraries

2007-10-17 Thread Jon Theil Nielsen
System: FreeBSD 8.0 Current (!)
 
Made a classic UNIX mistake and entered rm -R * in the wrong directory.
Stopped it very quickly, but have been in troubles ever since. I have
made a rebuild of the system - both userland and kernel, but still
having the same problems.
The problem seems to be in libtool no longer being able to find the
correct version of the libraries (even after having rebuild libtool
itself without problems).
For example, when I need to install xorg-drivers from the ports, it ends
up with
 
libtool: link: unknown library version type 'freebsd-' (obviously
missing something after the hyphen).
 
When looking af the libtool configuration:
 
libtool --config:
...
# Library versioning type.
version_type=freebsd-
 
I don't know how to manually set the correct versioning type, and I dont
know from which configuration file it tries to determine the type.
 
Regards,
Jon Theil Nielsen
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Re: ntfs-3g problem

2007-10-17 Thread Ivan Georgiev
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:30:41 -0400 (EDT)
Monah Baki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I copied 7 files totaling 280GB. I then rebooted the freebsd box (without
 unmounting the ntfs partition) and then when I tried to mount the
 partition mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/da0s1 /mnt/windows), all files where
 missing. I could not even see them on the windows server. Yet df -h shows
 almost 300GB of diskspace used
 
 
 Thank you

The problem occured because you did not umount the partition.
As far as recovering goes, i have no idea if it is possible
to recover the files from the ntfs partition since only the part
that you see was written to it and nothing else.

Ivan
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Re: WPA

2007-10-17 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:06:35AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:

 having trouble to get the wi0 interface up with WPA. below is the relevant
 information. can somebeody explain what the problem is? thanks...

I think I can.

 device   = 'PRISM 2.5 802.11b 11Mbps Wireless Controller'

Your wireless card probably does not support WPA, maybe you can solve
this with a newer firmware. If not you would have to stick with WEP
encryption or buy a new card.

Uwe

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Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

2007-10-17 Thread Yuri
Hi,

When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem notenotepg 
regsrlimit  status
and in Linux:
cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm  
status

Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process information?

In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.

Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?

Tyanks,
Yuri
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Re: Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

2007-10-17 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:24:49AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
 cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem note
 notepg 
 regsrlimit  status
 and in Linux:
 cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm  
 status
 
 Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process information?
 
 In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.
 
 Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?

Maybe. Why don't you get the Linux guys to change theirs? FreeBSD has
been around longer.
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Re: XScreenSaver

2007-10-17 Thread Kelvin Woods
On Wed, October 17, 2007 08:48, Bruce Alcock wrote:
 Hi

 My XScreenSaver is configured to come on and then a bit later suspend
 the
 monitors...now this works, but only sometimes actually gets around to
 suspending the monitors. I emailed the author a while ago about it and
 he
 suggested I turned on logging...there doesn't seem to be an option in
 XScreenSaver for logging, so my question is what logging is he talking
 about
 and how do I use it? (he thought the mouse was moving ever so slightly
 every
 now and then, but this isn't the case since I unplugged my mouse last
 night
 and it still didn't suspend)

 Thanks
 Bruce Alcock

Bruce,

Read the manpage -verbose option. Logging is sent to stderr, you
might need to pipe it to a file.

This might be a problem with ACPI rather than the XScreenSaver
software itself.

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apache mod_ssl chroot problem

2007-10-17 Thread Muhammad Reza
Dear List.

I have problem running apache in chroot mode with ssl enable.
Apache in chroot mode running fine without ssl enable, but when i try to
start with mod_ssl enable, error occured with this message.

beastie#chroot /chroot/httpd /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.

Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
**Stopped

and with error log

[Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
[Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
[Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
[Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386
error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
[Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib
[Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
[Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
[Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
[Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386b
error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
[Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib

If i escape from chrooted enviroment, apache with mod_ssl work fine 

beastie# /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.

Server www.example.com:443 (RSA)
Enter pass phrase:

OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.

Is there something missing here, please enlight me.

regards
Reza
 




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WPA

2007-10-17 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester

kalin wrote:
 having trouble to get the wi0 interface up with WPA.

There is no WPA support in wi according to:

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-wi

HTH,
Jan Henrik
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
Jack Raats wrote:
 HI
 
 Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
 
 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 
 What is sploger?

# locate sploger
# head /path/to/sploger

If the first line states something similar to:

#!/usr/bin/perl

Post a chunk of the code here and someone should be able to tell you
what it is, or at least attempting to do.

Steve
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Re: apache mod_ssl chroot problem

2007-10-17 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:46:01PM +0700, Muhammad Reza wrote:
 Dear List.
 
 I have problem running apache in chroot mode with ssl enable.
 Apache in chroot mode running fine without ssl enable, but when i try to
 start with mod_ssl enable, error occured with this message.
 
 beastie#chroot /chroot/httpd /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
 Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
 Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
 In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
 
 Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
 Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
 **Stopped
 
 and with error log
 
 [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
 [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
 error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
 [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
 error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
 [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386
 error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
 [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
 error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib
 [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
 [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
 error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
 [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
 error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
 [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386b
 error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
 [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
 error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib
 
 If i escape from chrooted enviroment, apache with mod_ssl work fine 
 
 beastie# /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
 Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
 Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
 In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
 
 Server www.example.com:443 (RSA)
 Enter pass phrase:
 
 OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
 
 Is there something missing here, please enlight me.

The first thing that comes to mind - are your keys inside the chroot area
you want to run apache in?

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread J65nko
On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all users,
 After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of 
 imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try 
 accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try 
 again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try 
 loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be 
 the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges 
 at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro 
 grullon

From the section Compatibility problems of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option

TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista
operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP
Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to
malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start
working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in
Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with
primary DNS server.

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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this 
problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with 
vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team 
currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still 
routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon



 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear all users,
  After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of 
  imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try 
  accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try 
  again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try 
  loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be 
  the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few 
  colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. 
  Lisandro grullon
 
 From the section Compatibility problems of
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option
 
 TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista
 operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP
 Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to
 malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start
 working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in
 Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with
 primary DNS server.
 
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be 
helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro

Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.




 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:01:23 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of
  imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try
  accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I
  try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly
  I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What
  seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even
  ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either.
 
 Try disabling IPv6 in either your browser or your operating system,
 or use a proxy that only does IPv4.
 
 Fabian

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Gueven Bay
2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be 
 helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro

 Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.


I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
1) you type about:config into the address line at the top
2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6
3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ...
4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing
5) type true into the value field
6) have fun
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Re: NIS interoperability with Linux, was Re: Following directions doesn't seem to work: Adding users in NIS

2007-10-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've read this the first time I tried and decided not to go with it.
 The manual says:
 If you plan to use a FreeBSD system to serve non-FreeBSD
 clients that have no support for password shadowing (which is
 most of them), you will have to disable the password shadowing
 entirely by uncommenting the UNSECURE=True entry in
  /var/yp/Makefile.

 Linux certainly uses password shadowing, and I can see in my debian
 server maps passwd.byname and shadow.byname files
 If I perform ypcat passwd.byname from a client I get the standard passwd
 file with no passwords (exactly like /etc/passwd)
 The encrypted passwords are in the shadow.byname map.

 Now, if I understand correctly, the above solution would put the
 passwords in the passwd.byname map, thus making the system less secure,
 where in fact I should be able to make FreeBSD export a shadow.byname
 map that would be compatible with Linux.
 Am I missing something here / are my assumptions wrong?

I think you are assuming that Linux uses password shadowing over NIS.
This is not possible, and no system does it.

The FreeBSD security method in question just forces requests for the
password maps to come from privileged ports.  This is a very minor
security method, and other systems don't support it.

Fundamentally, NIS assumes that you trust the machines you are
serving.  Or at least are willing to let them have the encrypted
passwords.  No OS can change this; it's not a Linux/FreeBSD issue.  
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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this 
 problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site 
 with vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is 
 the team currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most 
 networks still routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an 
 answer...Lisandro Grullon

The following is taken from the script of government informational video
#3378:

Commentator: Fear not!

[Cut to scenes of Post WWII networking facilities ravaged by the war.
Half-starving network technicians are trying to repair antiquated
routers and switches.]

Commentator: The FreeBSD team is working feverishly to solve this problem.
Unfortunately, the resolution requires the replacement of billions of
dollars worth of network equipment spread across the world, much of it
owned by private companies who have little or no knowledge of the
problem or the solution.

[Cut to air-drops of new networking equipment being dropped over war-
torn cities.  Crowds of people line the streets and cheer as the
parachutes drop gently to the ground right in front of the local telco.]

Commentator: Luckily, the FreeBSD project has scores of influential
computer technicians all over the world, and they're all working to
solve the problem.  We believe that, in time, this scourge on our
network can be removed!

[Cut to shots of community groups meeting in churches with laptops.]

Commentator: What can you do to help?  Work to track down the exact
cause of your particular network problem and report it to the responsible
party.  Volunteer with your local user's group for whatever needs done!
Help to organize others and spread the news!


  Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
  
  On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Dear all users,
   After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of 
   imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try 
   accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I 
   try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I 
   try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems 
   to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a 
   few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please 
   advise. Lisandro grullon
  
  From the section Compatibility problems of
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option
  
  TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista
  operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP
  Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to
  malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start
  working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in
  Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with
  primary DNS server.
  
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Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all


Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist. 

But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007). 

I've see somewhere it's because 7.0 come with gcc 4.2 and many ports don't
compile. Is this the reason ?

Regards.


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Re: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

2007-10-17 Thread James
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 14:06 +0800, williamkow wrote:

 Can anybody teach me on how to run Windows XP Professional on top of
FreeBSD 6.2.
I mean is, after FreeBSD is installed, KDE is running, and the Windows
XP prof is running on another separate pop-up windows within KDE.
Thanks.
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David Christensen wrote:
 
 williamkow wrote:
   


I'm almost certain you can't do this. There's no Xen kernel for Windows
and the version of VMware in ports is ld. 

What other virtualisation solutions are there that can handle windows,
besides VMware?

James
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FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

2007-10-17 Thread Jeff Royle
I am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and 
not a problem with 6.2 itself.


The system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname 
output.


FreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 
10:40:51 EDT 2007


What I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically 
 UCD-SNMP-MIB.


After reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe 
gensnmptree is the command I need to use.


This is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give 
me any results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of 
gensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.


So I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef 
was referenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.


I found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a 
makefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is 
in the /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.


So I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB 
into the bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem 
with the 6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am 
suppose to be using?


Any assistance would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jeff Royle
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Re: Regarding Flow of sendto (UDP) using IPv6.

2007-10-17 Thread James
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:16 +0530, Prasad Dandra wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 First, I would like to thank you all for the wonderful work of developing
 FreeBSD.
 I have some doubts regarding the BSD stack flow.
 I am very much interested to know the code flow from sendto (UDP case) upto
 udp6_output function when used in IPv6 client (simple client) and also how
 the local port and destination address are assigned without using bind
 when 1st time the sendto is called i.e  where the pcbconnect and pcbbind are
 called (particularly in case of ipv6)?
 
 Any information provided about the links, books to be refered for more
 details will also be helpful.
 
 Thank and Regards,
 Prasad
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If it's in the base system, csup your sources - it's in the handbook.

If it's a port, cd /usr/ports/distfiles and untar the source code.


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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Albert Shih wrote:

Hi all


Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist. 

But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007). 


while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
holders happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are 
convinced that their work is good enough for the public.


Erich
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Andy Harrison
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On 10/17/07, Jack Raats  wrote:

 What is sploger?


IIRC, you can also do something like:

# pkg_info -p `which sploger`

That'll tell you what port owns that file at least.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 17/10/2007 à 22:25:33+0800, Erich Dollansky a écrit
 Hi,
 
 Albert Shih wrote:
 Hi all
 Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
 date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist. 
 But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007). 
 
 while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
 holders happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are 
 convinced that their work is good enough for the public.

Yes this thing I known (I'm working with FreeBSD since 4.1).

My question is not very clear, what I'm asking is where, in what part of
the code of 7.x, are the problems. In the ULE ? in compatibility between ports 
and
gcc 4.2, ZFS, etc...

Regards.

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Re: Regarding Flow of sendto (UDP) using IPv6.

2007-10-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Prasad Dandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have some doubts regarding the BSD stack flow.
 I am very much interested to know the code flow from sendto (UDP case) upto
 udp6_output function when used in IPv6 client (simple client) and also how
 the local port and destination address are assigned without using bind
 when 1st time the sendto is called i.e  where the pcbconnect and pcbbind are
 called (particularly in case of ipv6)?

 Any information provided about the links, books to be refered for more
 details will also be helpful.

Bear in mind that the IPv6 implementation in FreeBSD has recently been
exchanged for a different one, but I don't think the basic concepts
are much changed.  For that matter, the IPv4 model (which has plenty
of book documentation covering it) isn't very different.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist.


late for whom?
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar


while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share holders


not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.

happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that 
their work is good enough for the public.


Erich
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Re: apache mod_ssl chroot problem

2007-10-17 Thread James


 Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
 Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
 **Stopped


Isn't the private key the one on the local machine? If so, is the
private key visible with the chroot environment?
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Re: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

2007-10-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:49:57AM +0800, williamkow wrote:

 Please provide me more advices on installing multi operating system in a 
 computer. Which one to install first? use which boot loader ? tips and 
 guidelines, and things to causion. Thank you.

Have you read the FreeBSD Handbook?   It and some of the online 
documentation take you step by step through this.   Go to the FreeBSD
web site   (http://www.freebsd.org/)  click on documentation and
chose some of the items in the list, especially the handbook.

One specific item:   Install Winxxx first.  It does not play nicely 
with any other installation if you install it second.   At least in
the beginning, install and use the FreeBSD MBR (boot loader).   You
will be given three options in the FreeBSD install.   Choose that one.
It is a little plain and, if the other OS (Winxxx) is not one of the
few it has display codes for, will just put out '???'.  But, it will
still boot it just fine.

Later, if you feel you need a prettier selection menu while booting,
then you can install something like grub or gag or write your own.
But, the standard FreeBSD MBR works just fine.

So, do some reading.  Then do some experimenting.  Use it for a
while to get comfortable with it.   Then change some things if
you want and reinstall.

jerry

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xmh port in 6.2

2007-10-17 Thread Pollywog
I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no longer 
part of the Ports collection, but when I saw yes to remove it, portmanager 
complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the problem here, 
anyone know?
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Re: NIS interoperability with Linux, was Re: Following directions doesn't seem to work: Adding users in NIS

2007-10-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 I've read this the first time I tried and decided not to go with it.
 The manual says:
 If you plan to use a FreeBSD system to serve non-FreeBSD
 clients that have no support for password shadowing (which is
 most of them), you will have to disable the password shadowing
 entirely by uncommenting the UNSECURE=True entry in
  /var/yp/Makefile.

 Linux certainly uses password shadowing, and I can see in my debian
 server maps passwd.byname and shadow.byname files
 If I perform ypcat passwd.byname from a client I get the standard passwd
 file with no passwords (exactly like /etc/passwd)
 The encrypted passwords are in the shadow.byname map.

 Now, if I understand correctly, the above solution would put the
 passwords in the passwd.byname map, thus making the system less secure,
 where in fact I should be able to make FreeBSD export a shadow.byname
 map that would be compatible with Linux.
 Am I missing something here / are my assumptions wrong?
 

 I think you are assuming that Linux uses password shadowing over NIS.
 This is not possible, and no system does it.

 The FreeBSD security method in question just forces requests for the
 password maps to come from privileged ports.  This is a very minor
 security method, and other systems don't support it.

 Fundamentally, NIS assumes that you trust the machines you are
 serving.  Or at least are willing to let them have the encrypted
 passwords.  No OS can change this; it's not a Linux/FreeBSD issue.  


   
I have experimented a bit further with my debian NIS server, and this is
what I found:

From a NIS client, I can do with my standard user account:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat passwd.byname
user1:x:1010:1010:Joe User,,,:/home/user1:/bin/bash

and I get the standard, world-readable password file (the one without
the passwords)
However, the standard user cannot run:

This is the answer:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat shadow.byname
No such map shadow.byname. Reason: No such map in server's domain

As root, however:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ypcat shadow.byname
user1:$1$1233245435435345543545345sfsdfsfdf:13577:0:9:7:::
...

This seems to be consistent with the FreeBSD NIS Server behaviour
described in nis(8) manual page:

 To help prevent this, FreeBSD's NIS server handles the shadow password
 maps (master.passwd.byname and master.passwd.byuid) in a special
way: the
 server will only provide access to these maps in response to requests
 that originate on privileged ports.  Since only the super-user is
allowed
 to bind to a privileged port, the server assumes that all such requests
 come from privileged users.  All other requests are denied:
requests from
 non-privileged ports will receive only an error code from the server.

So, it seems linux handles this the same way. Difference is linux has a
shadow.byname map while FreeBSD has a master.passwd.byname map
(possibly  also internal differences in the files)

Now, if I understand correctly, If I where to add the UNSECURE feature
in the FreeBSD server, I expect the shadow passwords would be inserted
in the passwd.byname map which is world readable and hence a security
issue. (Perhaps I will do this experiment next and let you know of the
outcome)
This is hardly important for my home server scenario, but it would be, 
should I decide to implement a FreeBSD NIS server somewhere else.
Hence,  the best possible solution would be to get a Makefile for the
FreeBSD NIS server that would produce completely Linux compatible maps.



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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:14:07AM +0200, Jack Raats wrote:

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 HI
 
 Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
 
 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 
 What is sploger?

Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.

jerry

 
 Jack
 
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Re: xmh port in 6.2

2007-10-17 Thread Pollywog
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 15:16:53 Pollywog wrote:
 I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no
 longer part of the Ports collection, but when I saw yes to remove it,
 portmanager complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the
 problem here, anyone know?

That came out wrong.

When I say yes to the removal of xmh, portmanager complains it is required 
by those other ports.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

2007-10-17 Thread Hartmut Brandt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Jeff Royle wrote:

JRI am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and not a
JRproblem with 6.2 itself.
JR
JRThe system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname
JRoutput.
JR
JRFreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 10:40:51
JREDT 2007
JR
JRWhat I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically
JRUCD-SNMP-MIB.
JR
JRAfter reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe gensnmptree is
JRthe command I need to use.
JR
JRThis is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give me
JRany results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of
JRgensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.
JR
JRSo I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef was
JRreferenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.
JR
JRI found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a
JRmakefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is in
JRthe /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.
JR
JRSo I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB into
JRthe bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem with the
JR6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am suppose to be
JRusing?
JR
JRAny assistance would be appreciated.

Well, yes that would be the tool, but things are more complicated. BSNMP 
uses a special file format (the .def files) to automatically create some 
tables and #defines when you implement a MIB. If you invent your own MIB, 
you normally write the .def file from scratch. It basically contains the 
same info as the MIB file, but in a less baroque and more machine-parsable 
format. If you're going to implement a MIB for which you already have a 
MIB file you can shorten the time to write the .def file by feeding the 
MIB file into gensnmpdef. It will create you an initial .def file, which, 
in most cases, you have to edit, though.

But having the .def file is only the start of implementing. Because then 
you must write the action routines that actually implement the MIB 
behaviour. You might look under /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/snmp_mibII. Here 
you find an example .def file the contents of which you might find 
familiar. The .c files there implement the semantic of the standard MIB-2.

gensnmpdef is not built automatically, because it requires libsmi which 
you need to install from ports.

harti
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon

I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and 
restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.


 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would 
  be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
 
  Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
 
 
 I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top
 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6
 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ...
 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Lisandro:

You can try this from a command prompt.

netsh interface teredo set state disabled

That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can just disable 
it for the browser.

Regards,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 
 I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
 close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
 
 
  Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
  2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that
 it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
  
   Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
  
 
  I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
  1) you type about:config into the address line at the top
  2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6
  3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ...
  4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing
  5) type true into the value field
  6) have fun
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Gueven Bay
2007/10/17, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
  holders

 not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.

  happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that
  their work is good enough for the public.
 
  Erich

Please,

stop mentioning this company in every discussion that seems to
attack *BSD in some way.

Discussing M. - especially their development processes or business
tactics - does not accomplish anything for us.

First acknowledge that FBSD 7 is late. The estimate was for 5 months
ago. And if I say to someone I want to meet him at 8 o'clock but
arrive 78 hours later, then I am late. Period.

But as several community members already said: No one is really
waiting for 7 so that the developers can take their time to make it as
perfect as possible.

So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
The original question was not (I repeat NOT): Which  international
conspiracy is holding up the developers of FreeBSD 7 from releasing?
Without discussing M. or the Illuminati and U.F.O.s and with that
guaranteeing that the original question will never be answered you can
concentrate on answering OR you can take your finger from the reply
button/menue point/whatever and wait that maybe a developer will read
the original posters mail and answer it.



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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2007/10/17, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
   holders
 
  not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.
 
   happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that
   their work is good enough for the public.
  
   Erich
 
 Please,
 
 stop mentioning this company in every discussion that seems to
 attack *BSD in some way.
 
 Discussing M. - especially their development processes or business
 tactics - does not accomplish anything for us.
 
 First acknowledge that FBSD 7 is late. The estimate was for 5 months
 ago. And if I say to someone I want to meet him at 8 o'clock but
 arrive 78 hours later, then I am late. Period.
 
 But as several community members already said: No one is really
 waiting for 7 so that the developers can take their time to make it as
 perfect as possible.
 
 So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
 moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
 The original question was not (I repeat NOT): Which  international
 conspiracy is holding up the developers of FreeBSD 7 from releasing?
 Without discussing M. or the Illuminati and U.F.O.s

AHA!  I knew that the Illuminati were using UFOs to hold up this
releast! I knew it!

[Wrapping the tinfoil around my head]  Who's paranoid now? huh?  You
all laughed at me before, but now you see I was right all along!

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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Hi Michael,
Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable 
to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the 
US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find 
logic here.



 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 CC: 
 Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 Hello Lisandro:
 
 You can try this from a command prompt.
 
 netsh interface teredo set state disabled
 
 That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can just 
 disable it for the browser.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
  
  
  I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
  close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
  
  
   Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
  
   2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that
  it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
   
Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
   
  
   I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
   1) you type about:config into the address line at the top
   2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6
   3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ...
   4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing
   5) type true into the value field
   6) have fun
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Lisandro:

Sure, here's the output from a Vista laptop and ping.

C:\ping www.freebsd.org

Pinging www.freebsd.org [2001:4f8:fff6::21] from 2001:468:1420:f:5872:c1f6:31bd:
2608 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=144ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=142ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms

Ping statistics for 2001:4f8:fff6::21:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 142ms, Maximum = 144ms, Average = 143ms

C:\ ping www.uk.freebsd.org

Pinging web008.pavilion.net [212.74.4.8] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=139ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=137ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43

Ping statistics for 212.74.4.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 137ms, Maximum = 139ms, Average = 138ms

So, even though I didn't tell Vista to use IPv6 for www.freebsd.org, that's 
what it found first.  Thankfully, I'm IPv6 enabled on my laptop so I can reach 
the site.  It appears that the UK site is not advertising IPv6 yet so you can 
still reach it.

Here is another link directly from Microsoft that might have more options for 
disabling IPv6 in your Vista machine.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ipv6/ipv6faq.mspx

Regards,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:21 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 Hi Michael,
 Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I
 still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load
 www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with
 the US website? I can't seem to find logic here.
 
 
 
  Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  CC:
  Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
  Hello Lisandro:
 
  You can try this from a command prompt.
 
  netsh interface teredo set state disabled
 
  That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can
 just disable it for the browser.
 
  Regards,
 
  Mike
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
  
  
   I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
   close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
  
  
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
   
2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on
 that
   it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro

 Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.

   
I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
1) you type about:config into the address line at the top
2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6
3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ...
4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing
5) type true into the value field
6) have fun
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Re: syslog marking sendmail output as kernel:

2007-10-17 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Matt Emmerton wrote:
There must be somewhere in the kernel where we're writing to the  
syslog with an empty error string.  The syslog routines expect a  
newline-terminated character string, so the lack of a newline  
causes the next entry to be on the same line as the (non-existant)  
kernel message.


Actually, syslog should be just fine without getting a trailing  
newline; from the manpage:


The message is identical to a printf(3) format string, except  
that `%m'
 is replaced by the current error message.  (As denoted by the  
global
 variable errno; see strerror(3).)  A trailing newline is added  
if none is

 present.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Ivan Voras
Gueven Bay wrote:

 So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
 moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?

I can think of several issues of the top of my head:

- rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain
circumnstances (my favorite)
- ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load
- Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one
hasn't bit me yet)

Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to
solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch
around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet.

There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP
stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details.

The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a
production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved.

Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still
unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that
(IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that
has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD.



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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Bob Johnson
On 10/17/07, Albert Shih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all


 Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
 date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist.

 But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007).

 I've see somewhere it's because 7.0 come with gcc 4.2 and many ports don't
 compile. Is this the reason ?

According to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/todo.html there is a
very short list of things left to fix. The most important issue is
some sort of TCP problem (TCP timers are listed as requiring more
testing).

Unless someone in release engineering answers your question, that's
the best official information I'm aware of.

- Bob
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Re: xmh port in 6.2

2007-10-17 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Pollywog wrote:
 I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no longer 
 part of the Ports collection, but when I saw yes to remove it, portmanager 
 complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the problem here, 
 anyone know?

The new origin is x11/xmh.
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Moretti Filippo
Wojciech Puchar scrive: 



Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly 
the

date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html


If you read carefully it says start releasing process,it is not the same as 
to say this is a releasing date.

sincerely
Filippo
PS you can now upgrade to Releng_7 if you need to try it out 











is alway very optimist.


late for whom?
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Re: [OT] proper editor

2007-10-17 Thread cpghost
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900
Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
   Hi there, I'm beginner.
  
   Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
   I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
  
   vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
 
 To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor
 like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional
 opinion;; 

As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which
editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at
the moment.

Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs,
and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from
within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs
shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier
to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough
for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :)

-cpghost.

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Re: Is the bison port moving in reverse?

2007-10-17 Thread Kris Kennaway

Chad Perrin wrote:

I get this:

  # portversion -v | grep -v =
  bison-1.75_2,1succeeds port (port has 2.3_3)

Any idea why?  Judging by the numbers, I'd think that  should be 
instead.  Nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING seems to apply here.



Looks like PORTEPOCH was incorrectly removed.  Talk to maintainer.

Kris
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Re: how to make a patch

2007-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-16 15:10, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found and fixed a bug in one of the ports how do I make a patch file
 (I only changed one line in one file) and who do I send it to?

If you know precisely the file, you can use diff(1) to generate the
patch file.

Note that patch files for ports have to be constructed in a special
way, so that the make patch target can find them and apply them
correctly.

  1. Keep a copy of the patched file around, i.e. at `/tmp/foo.c'

  2. Clean-up the work subdirectory of the port, and extract a clean
 version of the port's patched source:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # rm -fr work
 # make patch

  3. Enter the work/foobar-1.0 build directory of the port, and save the
 original, unpatched file you want to modify at port-build-time:

 # cd work/foobar-1.0
 # cp src/foo.c src/foo.c.orig

  4. Now overwrite the build-tree copy of `foo.c' with the saved copy
 from step 1.

 # cp /tmp/foo.c src/foo.c

  5. Use the diff utility from within the `work/foobar-1.0' tree to
 generate a ports-based patch:

 # pwd
 /usr/ports/editors/foobar/work/foobar-1.0
 # diff -u src/foo.c.orig src/foo.c  /tmp/patch-src-foo.c

  6. Now that you have the 'fix' as a patch in /tmp/patch-src-foo.c, you
 can remove the temporary `work' directory of the port, and install
 the patch in `files' as a normal ports-based-patch:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # rm -fr work
 # cp -i /tmp/patch-src-foo.c files/

 If there's already an existing `patch-src-foo.c' file in `files',
 the last command will prompt you for overwriting the old patch.
 Don't do it.  Just pick a non-conflicting name for the second patch
 which applies on top of `src/foo.c', i.e.:

 # cp -i /tmp/patch-src-foo.c files/patch-src-foo.c-bugfixname

 where `bugfixname' is a tag which can help the port maintainers
 understand why this patchfile is needed.

After you have installed `patch-src-foo.c' in the `files' subdirectory
of the port, you should be able to run:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # make patch

and your patchfile should be applied automatically.

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
  running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
  this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
 
 
   Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
   think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
   I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
   What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
   it to on??

The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.

   PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
   still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
   black.  (*mumble*)

It looks like it is still in development; 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/

BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
settings of the monitor?

Roland
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CDROM Sony CDU55E not detected

2007-10-17 Thread Reinhard Haller

Hi,

I recently installed freebsd 6.2 from cd. After the reboot the cdrom drive
wan't discovered.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Reinhard

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread NetOpsCenter

Bill Moran wrote:

In response to Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  

This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this 
problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with 
vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team 
currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still 
routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon



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[Cut to scenes of Post WWII networking facilities ravaged by the war.
Half-starving network technicians are trying to repair antiquated
routers and switches.]

Commentator: The FreeBSD team is working feverishly to solve this problem.
Unfortunately, the resolution requires the replacement of billions of
dollars worth of network equipment spread across the world, much of it
owned by private companies who have little or no knowledge of the
problem or the solution.

[Cut to air-drops of new networking equipment being dropped over war-
torn cities.  Crowds of people line the streets and cheer as the
parachutes drop gently to the ground right in front of the local telco.]

Commentator: Luckily, the FreeBSD project has scores of influential
computer technicians all over the world, and they're all working to
solve the problem.  We believe that, in time, this scourge on our
network can be removed!

[Cut to shots of community groups meeting in churches with laptops.]

Commentator: What can you do to help?  Work to track down the exact
cause of your particular network problem and report it to the responsible
party.  Volunteer with your local user's group for whatever needs done!
Help to organize others and spread the news!


  

Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Dear all users,
After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of 
imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try 
accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try 
again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try 
loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the 
problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at 
work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon


From the section Compatibility problems of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option

TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista
operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP
Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to
malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start
working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in
Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with
primary DNS server.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:

 Gueven Bay wrote:
 
  So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
  moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
 
 I can think of several issues of the top of my head:
 
 - rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain
 circumnstances (my favorite)
 - ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load
 - Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one
 hasn't bit me yet)
 
 Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to
 solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch
 around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet.
 
 There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP
 stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details.

Thanks.   That is useful information.

 
 The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a
 production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved.
 
 Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still
 unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that
 (IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that
 has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD.

No one is arguing against that.  All are in favor of waiting until
it is ready.   

There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information 
on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional 
guess update.

jerry

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Is the bison port moving in reverse?

2007-10-17 Thread Chad Perrin
I get this:

  # portversion -v | grep -v =
  bison-1.75_2,1succeeds port (port has 2.3_3)

Any idea why?  Judging by the numbers, I'd think that  should be 
instead.  Nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING seems to apply here.

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FreeBSD support for Jetway J7F4

2007-10-17 Thread Erik Norgaard

Hi:

I have searched around to verify that everything works fine for this 
motherboard with integrated CPU: Jetway J7F4. I understand it has a 
CN700 north bridge and a VT8237R or VT8237RP south bridge, and Realtek 
RLT8110SC dual LAN.


I have found reports that FreeBSD hangs when doing ifconfig re1 up, has 
this been solved? Does it work if only one NIC is used?


I understand from wikipedia that autonegotiate of SATA speed with 
VT8237R fails, but what about VT8237RP? Not a huge problem though, I 
plan to get a disk that accepts speed setting by a jumper.


Does RAID work with this south bridge?

Thanks, Erik

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:18:53PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
   running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
   this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
  
  
  Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
  think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
  I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
  What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
  it to on??
 
 The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
... very slowly  :-|

 
 Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
 'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
 VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
 DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.


Good to know. So far, none of the flags are set.

 
  PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
  still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
  black.  (*mumble*)
 
 It looks like it is still in development; 
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/
 
 BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
 settings of the monitor?


Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness 
contrast) does the screen approach dingy grey. Otherwise, it's
something like light mud ... and I'm not trying to be funny.
At least the hackers are still developing this driver.  I booted 
my DOS partition and it recognized problems  and finally
displayed a 1024x768 display.  

have a good one,

gary


 
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Ivan Voras
On 17/10/2007, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information
 on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional
 guess update.

You can get all that information by monitoring the developer mailing
lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a nice one to start.
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Re: [OT] proper editor

2007-10-17 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:00 +0200, cpghost wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900
 Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
   Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Hi there, I'm beginner.
   
Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
   
vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
  
  To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor
  like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional
  opinion;; 
 
 As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which
 editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at
 the moment.
 
 Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs,
 and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from
 within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs
 shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier
 to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough
 for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :)

I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;;

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

2007-10-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:39:44PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:

 On 17/10/2007, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information
  on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional
  guess update.
 
 You can get all that information by monitoring the developer mailing
 lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a nice one to start.

That can be more than we really need to know and less clue on
the prognosis that is hoped for.

jerry
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Re: [OT] proper editor

2007-10-17 Thread James


 I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;;
 


PAH! Entirely wrong! Vi forever!


(kidding, kidding)

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postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Chad Perrin
I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a little
confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
initdb command.

  # locate initdb
  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?

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Re: [OT] proper editor

2007-10-17 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

  Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  
  Hi there, I'm beginner.
 
  Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
  I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
 
  vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
 
  If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ...
 
  So which one is best editor? ...
 


  There is no such thing as a best editor. Which one you know better NOW?
  If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go
  along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a  GUI,
  go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not advanced, but neither
  are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate
  execution of commands to try out things).
  Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly
  pay up in the long run though.
  
 
  Nope. I don't care what it costs. I don't care even if I have to learn a
  complex editor for long time ...
 
  To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor like
  Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional opinion;; 
 

 :) :) This is not a professional opinion, it is just a way of thinking
 that may or may not apply to you in this case (or generally).
 You are welcome to start learning both Python and Emacs at the same
 time, and delve deep at both. In fact, there are so many editors and
 programming languages available in FreeBSD you can spend an entire
 lifetime learning. It *is* my exact defintion of *having fun* !

Thanks for the guidance, you've helped me. Indeed ;;

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Re: postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
little

confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
initdb command.

  # locate initdb
  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
initdb-Makefile

  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?


This:

% head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
bin/initdb
bin/initlocation
bin/ipcclean
bin/pg_controldata
bin/pg_ctl
bin/pg_id
bin/pg_resetxlog
bin/postgres
bin/postmaster
etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql

...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
{LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

2007-10-17 Thread Jeff Royle

Hartmut Brandt wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Jeff Royle wrote:

JRI am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and not a
JRproblem with 6.2 itself.
JR
JRThe system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname
JRoutput.
JR
JRFreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 10:40:51
JREDT 2007
JR
JRWhat I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically
JRUCD-SNMP-MIB.
JR
JRAfter reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe gensnmptree is
JRthe command I need to use.
JR
JRThis is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give me
JRany results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of
JRgensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.
JR
JRSo I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef was
JRreferenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.
JR
JRI found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a
JRmakefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is in
JRthe /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.
JR
JRSo I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB into
JRthe bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem with the
JR6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am suppose to be
JRusing?
JR
JRAny assistance would be appreciated.

Well, yes that would be the tool, but things are more complicated. BSNMP 
uses a special file format (the .def files) to automatically create some 
tables and #defines when you implement a MIB. If you invent your own MIB, 
you normally write the .def file from scratch. It basically contains the 
same info as the MIB file, but in a less baroque and more machine-parsable 
format. If you're going to implement a MIB for which you already have a 
MIB file you can shorten the time to write the .def file by feeding the 
MIB file into gensnmpdef. It will create you an initial .def file, which, 
in most cases, you have to edit, though.
But having the .def file is only the start of implementing. Because then 
you must write the action routines that actually implement the MIB 
behaviour. You might look under /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/snmp_mibII. Here 
you find an example .def file the contents of which you might find 
familiar. The .c files there implement the semantic of the standard MIB-2.


gensnmpdef is not built automatically, because it requires libsmi which 
you need to install from ports.




This explains much about what I was confused with.  Thank you for the 
quick response.


It was fairly simple to get the port installed and get 
/usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef compiled and installed.


From there I went and built my ucd_tree.def file using gensnmpdef which 
I had to edit as you said.


I see after doing this and looking into the examples you suggested this 
would be a bit more involved then I initially thought.   I was able to 
generate some .c/.h files using gensnmptree but from there the legwork 
goes beyond me a bit.  Looks like I have to look into this deeper.


I do have one remaining question.   How is the gensnmptree -l command 
used exactly?  Something like cat ucd_tree.c | gensnmptree -l ?




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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Jack Raats

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HI

Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl

21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)

What is sploger?


Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.


The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

Jack

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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Josh Carroll
 The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
 reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

So you have done a:

find / -name sploger -type f

And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
rootkits, etc.

Josh
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread James
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 22:05 +0200, Jack Raats wrote:

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  HI
 
  Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
 
  21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
  29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
  29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
  30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 
  What is sploger?
 
  Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
  That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.
 
 The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
 reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
 
 Jack
 
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...at this point, I'd probably perform a security audit, just to be
sure. Check your access logs etc.

James
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Re: FreeBSD support for Jetway J7F4

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:14:29PM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I have searched around to verify that everything works fine for this 
 motherboard with integrated CPU: Jetway J7F4. I understand it has a CN700 
 north bridge and a VT8237R or VT8237RP south bridge, and Realtek RLT8110SC 
 dual LAN.
 
 I have found reports that FreeBSD hangs when doing ifconfig re1 up, has 
 this been solved? Does it work if only one NIC is used?

No experience with the RLT8110S, but the two Realtek RT8139 in my
machine work OK.

 I understand from wikipedia that autonegotiate of SATA speed with VT8237R 
 fails, but what about VT8237RP? Not a huge problem though, I plan to get a 
 disk that accepts speed setting by a jumper.
 
 Does RAID work with this south bridge?

I've got RAID1 working with this chip:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:15:0:  class=0x010400 card=0x80ed1043 chip=0x31491106 
rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device = 'VT8237  VT6410 SATA RAID Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID

HTH,
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread DAve
Jack Raats wrote:
 HI

 Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl

 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)

 What is sploger?
 
 Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
 That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.
 
 The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
 reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
 
 Jack
 

Do you have any services available to the outside from the machine? FTP,
telnet, ssh, mysql, apache?

DAve

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:36:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).
 
   I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
   data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
   man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
   ... very slowly  :-|

The good news is that the autodetection of Xorg has improved a lot. In a
lot of cases you can run 7.3 without xorg.conf.

   Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness 
   contrast) does the screen approach dingy grey. Otherwise, it's
   something like light mud ... and I'm not trying to be funny.

You should make sure that this is not a hardware problem. Try using
another monitor or another VGA cable. If you can get your hands on
another graphics card (maybe built-in graphics on the mobo?) try that as
well.


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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Rob

Lisandro Grullon wrote:

Hi Michael,
Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable 
to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the 
US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find 
logic here.


Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser.

Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?

Take it up with billy gates and his minions.

  -Rob

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Re: SCHED_4BSD in RELENG_7 disturbs workflow

2007-10-17 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:14:15 +0200,
[LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Quite the contrary on RELENG_7. During a portupgrade or even worse
 'pkgdb -L' (recovering lost dependencies) audio players (both
 graphical and mplayer) scatter, either because they don't get the
 hard-disk or CPU-cycles (which one, I don't know) and the focused
 application also often hangs. It just looks like occasionally (under
 load) everything freezes for a second and then goes on relatively
 normal.

I've got the same problem on 7.0-PRERELEASE/i386. Audio players
scatter when the machine is loaded. On 6.2 it worked fine (with Xorg
7.3 too). With SCHED_ULE it is a lot better.

I put a full dmesg here :
http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/dmesg.txt

Regards.
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Re: Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

2007-10-17 Thread Josh Paetzel
Jonathan Chen wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:24:49AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
  Hi,
  
  When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
  cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem note
  notepg 
  regsrlimit  status
  and in Linux:
  cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm  
  status
  
  Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process 
  information?
  
  In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.
  
  Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?
 
 Maybe. Why don't you get the Linux guys to change theirs? FreeBSD has
 been around longer.

Well, technically no.  BSD predates linux, but linux predates FreeBSD
by a few years.  In general though, linux is a reimplimentation and
they've had a habit of changing things in the process, but for any
given interface it's not generally accurate to say linux is the
reimplimentationsometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.

-- 
Thanks,

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Re: syslog marking sendmail output as kernel:

2007-10-17 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 
 On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Matt Emmerton wrote:
  There must be somewhere in the kernel where we're writing to the  
  syslog with an empty error string.  The syslog routines expect a  
  newline-terminated character string, so the lack of a newline  
  causes the next entry to be on the same line as the (non-existant)  
  kernel message.
 
 Actually, syslog should be just fine without getting a trailing  
 newline; from the manpage:
 
 The message is identical to a printf(3) format string, except  
 that `%m'
   is replaced by the current error message.  (As denoted by the  
 global
   variable errno; see strerror(3).)  A trailing newline is added  
 if none is
   present.
 
Hi Chuck,

I'm still not convinced thats the issue. I did a -d on syslog
and came up with. With a syslog.conf of :

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
*.emerg *
*.debug /var/log/spool


the syslog is seeing :

logmsg: pri 22, flags 0, from valhalla, msg Oct 16 21:29:00 sm-mta[31804]: 
l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection from 
[61.177.142.218], from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]^M
Logging to CONSOLE /dev/console^M
Logging to FILE /var/log/spool^M
logmsg: pri 166, flags 17, from valhalla, msg Oct 16 21:29:00 valhalla 
sm-mta[31804]: l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection 
from [61.177.142.218], from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]^M
Logging to FILE /var/log/spool^M


So something IS sending it twice, once at pri 22, no flags, then once
at 166 flags 17. (Unless by some configuration flukeyness its reprocessing
the line). So IMHO its not getting something improperly terminated. Its
getting the line twice at different pri/flags causing it to prepend the
Oct 16 00:00:25 valhalla kernel: to the already formatted 
Oct 16 21:29:00 valhalla sm-mta[31804]: l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: 
I/O error on connection from [61.177.142.218], from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The question is is it because of some weird syslog config, or
is it sendmail (8.13.1)?

Thanks, Tuc
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Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

2007-10-17 Thread allen paul
Hi,

I working on compiling Linux kernel and related issues, I was interested in
using the some documentation on FreeBSD site.
I needed permission if I could post some of the documentation on my website.


Regards,

Allen Paul
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 16:15:27 -0400 Josh Carroll 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.


So you have done a:

find / -name sploger -type f

And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
rootkits, etc.

If you google for sploger+perl, all you get is stuff that looks like 
hacked websites being run as spam operations.


Look in /tmp for anything unusual, like directories named .   or ..   
or similar.  Look for oddly named files in /tmp, such as dp, xz, etc.


Look at your website logs carefully.  I suspect a malicious script has been 
run through some exploit such as php or perl or an apache weakness.


Is all your software completely patched up to date?

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The University of Texas at Dallas
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you 
 told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I 
 able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is 
 there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to 
 find logic here.
[...snip...]

Try Firefox ;;

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Strange errors compiling evolution-database-server.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Dear all,
it appear that many of the port/packages are linked somewhat to evolution, I 
have been trying to upgrade it using portupgrade without any success, I even 
try uninstall it and installing from the port tree the traditional way using 
make, still not sucess, can any of you tell me what is happening to this output.

===  Building for evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1
gmake  all-recursive
gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1'
Making all in win32
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/win32'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/win32'
Making all in libedataserver
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/libedataserver'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/libedataserver'
Making all in servers
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
Making all in groupwise
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake  all-am
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
Making all in exchange
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
Making all in xntlm
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/xntlm'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/xntlm'
Making all in lib
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake  all-am
gmake[5]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
Making all in storage
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake  all-am
gmake[5]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
Making all in camel
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
Making all in providers
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel/providers'
Making all in pop3
gmake[4]: Entering 

Re: Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

2007-10-17 Thread James
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:29 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:

 Jonathan Chen wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:24:49AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
   Hi,
   
   When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
   cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem note
   notepg 
   regsrlimit  status
   and in Linux:
   cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm 
status
   
   Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process 
   information?
   
   In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.
   
   Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?
  
  Maybe. Why don't you get the Linux guys to change theirs? FreeBSD has
  been around longer.
 
 Well, technically no.  BSD predates linux, but linux predates FreeBSD
 by a few years.  In general though, linux is a reimplimentation and
 they've had a habit of changing things in the process, but for any
 given interface it's not generally accurate to say linux is the
 reimplimentationsometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.
 



procfs was an innovation of plan9, so I suppose the thing to do would be
to refer to *their* procfs.

However, either way. I have 1 linux box, something like 15 FreeBSD
boxen, and I have to say that on procfs, linux generally does a job that
I prefer to see. On FreeBSD, it feels more tacked on, while on linux it
feels like there's a lot of rich information there.

James
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Dear Rob,
Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level 
intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. 

Lisandro Grullon



 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 CC: 
 Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
 
 Lisandro Grullon wrote:
  Hi Michael,
  Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still 
  unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org 
  and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I 
  can't seem to find logic here.
 
 Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser.
 
 Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?
 
 Take it up with billy gates and his minions.
 
-Rob
 
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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

2007-10-17 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
You would need to look at the specific licenses on each document but in
general since FreeBSD is under a modified BSD license you can do what
ever you want with it as long you give proper credit.
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sendmail problems

2007-10-17 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
[69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4

I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
account) were not showing up.
So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
account, and many others who post to my lists.

I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

-DW

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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

2007-10-17 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
allen paul wrote:
 Hi,

 Thank you, That was the peice of information I was looking for.
 Sure, I will respect proper credits, and skip copyrighted information.
 I might have been mistaken if I mistook BSD documentation as freely
 distributed information under GNU license. But, as long as I can post
 a few Kernel related excerpts, I think I am good. 

In general your going to find BSD a more permissive license then GPL
(for sure less viral).  Contact me privately if you need a good
background references this as well other possible licensing options you
may have.
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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Peo Nilsson
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:07 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 16:15:27 -0400 Josh Carroll 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
  reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
 
  So you have done a:
 
  find / -name sploger -type f
 
  And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
  script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
  Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
  rootkits, etc.
 
 If you google for sploger+perl, all you get is stuff that looks like 
 hacked websites being run as spam operations.
 
 Look in /tmp for anything unusual, like directories named .   or ..   
 or similar.  Look for oddly named files in /tmp, such as dp, xz, etc.
 
 Look at your website logs carefully.  I suspect a malicious script has been 
 run through some exploit such as php or perl or an apache weakness.
 
 Is all your software completely patched up to date?
 

Dear list members.

I scanned my FreeBSD 6.2-Release (ports up to date) with
Avira Antivir personal ed, some days ago. The scanner returned
this:

...snap
checking drive/path (cwd): /
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist
 Date: 11.10.2007  Time: 16:04:06  Size: 9975
 ALERT:
[HTML/MHT.Gen] /usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist  
Contains detection pattern of the HTML script virus HTML/MHT.Gen
snap...

The information Avira has one can read here:
http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/details/id_vir/3679/html_mht.gen.html

I posted a question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They proposed that the scanner probably was to nervous for using with
Unix. (I can't tell myself)

Don't know if this says anything, but I though I would mention it
when I saw your posts.

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Re: sendmail problems

2007-10-17 Thread Derek Ragona

At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:

Hello,

I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
[69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4

I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
account) were not showing up.
So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
account, and many others who post to my lists.

I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

-DW


Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

-Derek

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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

2007-10-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:04:59AM +0530, allen paul wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I working on compiling Linux kernel and related issues, I was interested in
 using the some documentation on FreeBSD site.
 I needed permission if I could post some of the documentation on my website.

Which FreeBSD documentation?  Different documentation may be licensed
differently.

For specifics, you'll probably get better answers from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
than here.

This may also be helpful, though of course it depends to some extent on
which documentation you're asking about:
  http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/

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Re: postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:

...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $
{LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)


It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much,  
and
`cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply  
ls and

searching through it by eye).

Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.

Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
probably won't work.


Odd-- that sounds like the port wasn't installed properly.  What does:

  pkg_info | grep postgres

...show?  And pkg_info -Lx postgres...?

--
-Chuck

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Re: postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Erik Cederstrand

Chad Perrin wrote:

I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a
little confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence
of an initdb command.

# locate initdb /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?


Use the rc.d script:

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/postgres initdb

(At least for postgres 8.2)

Erik


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Re: postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Josh Paetzel
Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:11:24PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
  On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
  I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
  little
  confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
  initdb command.
  
# locate initdb
/usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
  initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
  initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb
  
  Any hints?
  
  This:
  
  % head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
  bin/initdb
  bin/initlocation
  bin/ipcclean
  bin/pg_controldata
  bin/pg_ctl
  bin/pg_id
  bin/pg_resetxlog
  bin/postgres
  bin/postmaster
  etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql
  
  ...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
  {LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)
 
 It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much, and
 `cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply ls and
 searching through it by eye).
 
 Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
 pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.
 
 Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
 probably won't work.
 

What port did you install exactly?  Installing one of the
postgresql[XX]-client ports will end you up with all of the manpages,
but none of the commands that you would only need if there was a
server installed, such as initdb, postgres, postmaster and so on and
so forth.

My guess is you need to install the corrosponding
postgresql[XX]-server to match the client you already have installed.

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel


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Re: Strange perl script

2007-10-17 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 23:51:39 +0200 Peo Nilsson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I scanned my FreeBSD 6.2-Release (ports up to date) with
Avira Antivir personal ed, some days ago. The scanner returned
this:

...snap
checking drive/path (cwd): /
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist
 Date: 11.10.2007  Time: 16:04:06  Size: 9975
 ALERT:
[HTML/MHT.Gen]
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist  Contains
detection pattern of the HTML script virus HTML/MHT.Gen snap...

The information Avira has one can read here:
http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/details/id_vir/3679/html_mht.gen.
html

I posted a question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They proposed that the scanner probably was to nervous for using with
Unix. (I can't tell myself)

Don't know if this says anything, but I though I would mention it
when I saw your posts.


I've never heard of a nervous anti-virus scanner, but that detection is 
clearly a false positive.  The pkg-plist file is a list of the files and 
directories installed by the port, so that they can be removed when you run 
make deinstall.  Avira probably saw one of the strings in the file as a 
possible match to a known malicious script.


In fact, their description says it's a generic detection routine designed 
to detect common family characteristics shared in several variants

http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/fulldetails/id_vir/3679/html_mht.gen.html

If you're so inclined, you could report it to Avira so they can tweak their 
detection accordingly.


--
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Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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Re: postgresql and initdb

2007-10-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:11:24PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
 I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
 little
 confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
 initdb command.
 
   # locate initdb
   /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
   /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
 initdb-Makefile
   /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
 initdb-Makefile
   /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb
 
 Any hints?
 
 This:
 
 % head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
 bin/initdb
 bin/initlocation
 bin/ipcclean
 bin/pg_controldata
 bin/pg_ctl
 bin/pg_id
 bin/pg_resetxlog
 bin/postgres
 bin/postmaster
 etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql
 
 ...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
 {LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)

It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much, and
`cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply ls and
searching through it by eye).

Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.

Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
probably won't work.

-- 
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
Dr. Ron Paul: Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when
terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons.
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RE: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

2007-10-17 Thread David Christensen
williamkow wrote off-list:

 May I know what is mobile docks ? how does it look, where can I
 find more information on it ?

Be sure to hit Reply to All, as Reply will reply to the poster, not the 
list.

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


Regarding mobile docks, I use these:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B9XSXE/103-6290448-9667056

 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BE2Y8P/ref=sr_11_1/103-1902779-1454204?%5Fen
coding=UTF8


HTH,

David

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Chris
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:52:49 -0400
Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... formatted to show proper flow (removed top posting)


  Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  CC: 
  Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
  
  Lisandro Grullon wrote:
   Hi Michael,
   Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me
   I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load
   www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something
   wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here.
  
  Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's
  browser.
  
  Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?
  
  Take it up with billy gates and his minions.
  
 -Rob
  
 Dear Rob,
 Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level
 intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. 
 
 Lisandro Grullon
 
 

Lisandro - 

What Rob really meant to say is simply this - while the Op has
an issue with IE7 and the FreeBSD website, the Op's issues are beyond
the scope of this list.

The Op's IE7 issues don't belong here, within a FreeBSD list.
Perhaps what Rob also meant was, that perhaps the Op should seen help
on Microsoft driven lists and more to the point, Internet Explorer.

What you could have done (as mentioned by your words of
adding value-added replies) was to reinforce to the Op that indeed the
FreeBSD site (US) was and is indeed up and working.

-- 
Best regards,
Chris
Registerd Linux user number 448639
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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

2007-10-17 Thread Benjamin A'Lee
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:22:05AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
  Hi Michael,
  Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you 
  told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I 
  able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is 
  there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to 
  find logic here.
 [...snip...]
 
 Try Firefox ;;

Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g.
corporate networks.

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http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/
I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and
photographers. - Mahatma Gandhi


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