memory allocation with malloc
Hi All,
I am trying to validate my understanding of how malloc works by means
of the below C program which tries to corrupt essential information
maintained by malloc for free() operation.
The program allocates 4, 12 byte blocks (internally 16 bytes are allocated
for each 12 byte block). Hence the total allocated space was 48 bytes.
As malloc maintains the (length of allocated block + 1), 4 bytes before the
returned pointer (from malloc), I have manipulated this length for the first
block and set it to 49 with the goal that a single free shall release all
these 4 blocks and a subsequent malloc of 15 bytes shall be from the address
of first block.
However, this does not happen. Can someone please correct my understanding
and provide me with a reference to the working of malloc() and free()?
#includestdio.h
int main(void)
{
char * ptr,* ptr1, *ptr2, * ptr3, * ptr4;
int * i;
int n,q,p;
int loop = 0;
ptr1 = (char *)malloc(12);
i = (int *)(ptr1 - 4);
printf(\n ptr1 = %p,%d \n,ptr1,*i);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[-4],ptr1[-3],ptr1[-2],ptr1[-1]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[0],ptr1[1],ptr1[2],ptr1[3]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[4],ptr1[5],ptr1[6],ptr1[7]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[8],ptr1[9],ptr1[10],ptr1[11]);
*i = 49;
ptr2 = (char *)malloc(12);
i = (int *)(ptr2 - 4);
printf(\n ptr2 = %p,%d \n,ptr2,*i);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr2[-4],ptr2[-3],ptr2[-2],ptr2[-1]);
ptr3 = (char *)malloc(12);
i = (int *)(ptr3 - 4);
printf(\n ptr3 = %p,%d \n,ptr3,*i);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr3[-4],ptr3[-3],ptr3[-2],ptr3[-1]);
ptr4 = (char *)malloc(12);
i = (int *)(ptr4 - 4);
printf(\n ptr4 = %p,%d \n,ptr4,*i);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr4[-4],ptr4[-3],ptr4[-2],ptr4[-1]);
free(ptr1);
printf(\n ANALYZE-\n);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[-4],ptr1[-3],ptr1[-2],ptr1[-1]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[0],ptr1[1],ptr1[2],ptr1[3]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[4],ptr1[5],ptr1[6],ptr1[7]);
printf(\n %d:%d:%d:%d\n,ptr1[8],ptr1[9],ptr1[10],ptr1[11]);
ptr = (char *)malloc(15);
i = (int *)(ptr - 4);
printf(\n ptr = %p,%d \n,ptr,*i);
return;
}
Thanks and Regards,
Shyamal
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Re: memory allocation with malloc
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:06 +0530, Shyamal Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am trying to validate my understanding of how malloc works by means of the below C program which tries to corrupt essential information maintained by malloc for free() operation. The program allocates 4, 12 byte blocks (internally 16 bytes are allocated for each 12 byte block). Hence the total allocated space was 48 bytes. As malloc maintains the (length of allocated block + 1), 4 bytes before the returned pointer (from malloc), I have manipulated this length for the first block and set it to 49 with the goal that a single free shall release all these 4 blocks and a subsequent malloc of 15 bytes shall be from the address of first block. However, this does not happen. Can someone please correct my understanding and provide me with a reference to the working of malloc() and free()? That's because the original assumption is false. You wrote that malloc maintains the (length of allocated block + 1), 4 bytes before the returned pointer (from malloc). But that is not really true for all malloc() implementations, and it certainly isn't true for the `jemalloc' implementation that FreeBSD 7.X and 8.0-CURRENT use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: memory allocation with malloc
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:58:40 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:06 +0530, Shyamal Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, this does not happen. Can someone please correct my understanding and provide me with a reference to the working of malloc() and free()? That's because the original assumption is false. [...] I forgot to attach the link to the jemalloc paper, apologies. Here it is: http://people.freebsd.org/~jasone/jemalloc/bsdcan2006/jemalloc.pdf This describes how jemalloc works. This isn't a detailed line by line walk-through of the source, but it should provide a good starting point. Then you can always read the source of BSD malloc() at: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c?view=log HTH, Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: High Availability FreeBSD www cluster
Rudi Kramer - MWEB wrote: Michael Christie: I want to cluster some freeBSD servers, The purpose of this is to learn. I would like to run some basic services like www and mail on a test network. I would like to set up the servers so if one server falls over the other will take over the services automatically, load balanceing would be good as well. I have googled, I could be looking in the wrong place , there seems not to be much in regard to seting up freebsd in a cluster, lots on linux. I have looked at the High Availability Linux project , I see on the front page that it will run on freebsd. So I am a bit lost and i am wanting to learn how to cluster freebsd web and mail servers, I have looked at Beowulf clusters, which seem to give computers more grunt, Can some on on the list please advise me on what clustering softwhere i need to get started and if the High Availability Linux project softwhere will do the job. I also did some research a while ago and found Wackamole. It looks pretty interesting as you don't need a central director server but all servers in the cluster check each other. It's also in the ports tree :-) Site: http://www.backhand.org/wackamole/ Port: /usr/ports/net/wackamole There's clustering and clustering. Neither of the two applications the OP mentioned needs anything like as tight a coupling as what many commercial 'cluster' solutions provide, or that compute-cluster solutions like Beowulf or Grid Engine[!] provide. WWW clustering requires two things: * A means to detect failed / out of service machines and redirect traffic to alternative servers * A means to delocalize user sessions between servers The first requirement can be handled with programs already mentioned such as wackamole/spread or hacluster -- or another alternative is hoststated(8)[*] on OpenBSD. You can use mod_proxy_balancer[+] on recent Apache 2.2.x to good effect. Certain web technologies provide this sort of capability directly: eg. mod_jk or the newer mod_proxy_ajp13 modules for apache can balance traffic across a number of back-end tomcat workers: of course this only applies to sites written in Java. If you're dealing with high traffic levels and have plenty of money to spend, then a hardware load balancer (Cisco Arrowpoint, Alteon Acedirector, Foundry ServerIron etc.) is a pretty standard choice. The second requirement is more subtle. Any reasonably complicated web application nowadays is unlikely to completely stateless. Either you have to recognise each session and direct the traffic back to the same server each time, or you have to store the session state in a way that is accessible to all servers -- typically in a back-end database. Implementing 'sticky sessions' is generally slightly easier in terms of application programming, but less resilient to machine failure. There are other alternatives: Java Servlet based applications running under Apache Tomcat can cluster about 4 machines together so that session state is replicated to all of them. This solution is however not at all scalable beyond 4 machines, as they'll quickly spend more time passing state information between themselves than they do actually serving incoming web queries. Mail clustering is an entirely different beast. In fact, it's two different beasts with entirely different characteristics. The easy part with mail is the MTA -- SMTP has built in intrinsic concepts of fail-over and retrying with alternate servers. Just set up appropriate MX records in the DNS pointing at a selection of servers and it all should work pretty much straight away. You may need to share certain data between your SMTP servers (like greylisting status, Bayesian spam filtering, authentication databases) but the software is generally written with this capability built in. The hard part with mail clustering is the mail store which provides the IMAP or POP3 or WebMail interface to allow users to actually read their mail. To my knowledge there is no freely available opensource solution that provides an entirely resilient IMAP/POP3 solution. Cyrus Murder comes close, in that it provides multiple back-end mail stores, easy migration of mailboxes between stores and resilient front ends. The typical approach here is to use a high-spec server with RAIDed disk systems, multiple PSUs etc. and to keep very good backups. Cheers, Matthew [!] http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ [*] hoststated(8) integrates with the traffic redirection capabilities of pf(4) to provide pretty much the same sort of functionality as a hardware loadbalancer via a firewall machine, but a lot cheaper. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=hoststatedsektion=8format=html [+] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy_balancer.html -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP:
Re: High Availability FreeBSD www cluster
Is sgcluster in the ports , how would i find out if this is an active project ? Michael Paul Procacci wrote: Michael Christie wrote: Hi all , I want to cluster some freeBSD servers, The purpose of this is to learn. I would like to run some basic services like www and mail on a test network. I would like to set up the servers so if one server falls over the other will take over the services automatically, load balanceing would be good as well. I have googled, I could be looking in the wrong place , there seems not to be much in regard to seting up freebsd in a cluster, lots on linux. I have looked at the High Availability Linux project , I see on the front page that it will run on freebsd. So I am a bit lost and i am wanting to learn how to cluster freebsd web and mail servers, I have looked at Beowulf clusters, which seem to give computers more grunt, Can some on on the list please advise me on what clustering softwhere i need to get started and if the High Availability Linux project softwhere will do the job. web links any thing to help me get started would be good. No I do not want to change over to linux. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've used freevrrpd (/usr/ports/net/freevrrpd) for some clients with success. Additionally doing some googling revealed SG Cluster (http://www.freebsd.org.hk/html/sgcluster/) though I'm not sure how active this is and/or really if it's what your looking for. ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: High Availability FreeBSD www cluster
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RE: High Availability FreeBSD www cluster
Michael Christie: I want to cluster some freeBSD servers, The purpose of this is to learn. I would like to run some basic services like www and mail on a test network. I would like to set up the servers so if one server falls over the other will take over the services automatically, load balanceing would be good as well. I have googled, I could be looking in the wrong place , there seems not to be much in regard to seting up freebsd in a cluster, lots on linux. I have looked at the High Availability Linux project , I see on the front page that it will run on freebsd. So I am a bit lost and i am wanting to learn how to cluster freebsd web and mail servers, I have looked at Beowulf clusters, which seem to give computers more grunt, Can some on on the list please advise me on what clustering softwhere i need to get started and if the High Availability Linux project softwhere will do the job. I also did some research a while ago and found Wackamole. It looks pretty interesting as you don't need a central director server but all servers in the cluster check each other. It's also in the ports tree :-) Site: http://www.backhand.org/wackamole/ Port: /usr/ports/net/wackamole ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Warren Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im trying to setup//configure my Belkin Wireless Card, but since i have had it for a while in a windows machine, im no clue about using a wireless card in FreeBSD an not as yet able to find to many sources//articles that can give me a head start on where to go to begin finding the cards chipset etc etc .. Any assistance would be appreciated. Run ifconfig; if your card's driver is built into the GENERIC kernel (it likely is), then iconfig should list it. Alternatively, you can run pciconf -lv. If you can't find your card in either of these, please copy the output of those two to the list. (Hint: a goodway to save the output of a command to a file is: command | tee file). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qt4-moc-4.4.1 not compiling (compiler/system not supported)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 04:51:17AM -0700, Jakub Lach wrote: This is the Qt/X11 Open Source Edition. The specified system/compiler is not supported: /usr/ports/devel/qt4-moc/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ Please see the README file for a complete list. === Script configure failed unexpectedly. please force update qmake4 and qt4-corelib ports: # portmaster devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib # portupgrade -f devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib - - Martin In README there is no FreeBSD whatsoever. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/qt4-moc-4.4.1-not-compiling-%28compiler-system-not-supported%29-tp18829459p18829459.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- +---+---+ | PGP: 0x05682353 | Jabber : miwi(at)BSDCrew.de | | ICQ: 169139903 | Mail : miwi(at)FreeBSD.org | +---+---+ | Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest! | +---+---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiYQhwACgkQFwpycAVoI1P+PwCfT6M7GZMGrWYdeNnS23LLkY/n IrcAnA/fXHJmFGyEd1oiT4al0yiMq4P9 =iVp2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorry - plaintext this time - Disk geometry and two OSes.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Slick Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen a few people on this mailing list say that disk geometry really doesn't matter that much, and the OS usually works fine despite apparent errors. But I'd prefer to be able to keep my windows installation. If I let sysinstall change the disk geometry, will it create problems for the files on 0 and the WinXP installation? If so, do you know of an alternate way to find the disk geometry, and should I directly give these results to sysinstall? Will that fix my problem? This is something I've wondered about, but blithely ignored. What does the warning really mean? Why doesn't it matter? -- Ned Ruggeri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
accounting
hi together, we're trying to setup system accounting with sa to get detailed information which user takes how much cpu. for any reason we'd like to have separate files like sa_20080805_14 for each hour we run process accounting and keep them as well. but of course when issuing an accton file command, we always get these kernel messages: Accounting disabled Accounting enabled now my question: is there any way to prevent the messages from being dmesg'd except hacking the accounting sources? it's pretty sensless to have hundreds of these messages... cheers ps: just reply to the list, i'll it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qt4-moc-4.4.1 not compiling (compiler/system not supported)
Bugzilla from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please force update qmake4 and qt4-corelib ports: # portmaster devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib # portupgrade -f devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib - - Martin I have already tried upgrading corelib (=== qt4-corelib-4.4.1 depends on package: qt4-moc=4.4.1 - not found === Found qt4-moc-4.3.4, but you need to upgrade to qt4-moc=4.4.1) now (re)building qmake4, fingers crossed. Thanks for fast help. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/qt4-moc-4.4.1-not-compiling-%28compiler-system-not-supported%29-tp18829459p18831048.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qt4-moc-4.4.1 not compiling (compiler/system not supported)
Bugzilla from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please force update qmake4 and qt4-corelib ports: # portmaster devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib # portupgrade -f devel/qmake4 devel/qt4-corelib Still cannot upgrade qt4-corelib without qt4-moc=4.4.1. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/qt4-moc-4.4.1-not-compiling-%28compiler-system-not-supported%29-tp18829459p18831591.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jails, IPs and identd
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Redd Vinylene wrote: Hello! I have a jail with multiple IPs. It runs identd, however it only works from the jail's main IP: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 How do I make it work from absolutely all IPs? Perhaps: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 -a insert hundreds of ips here? Thank you all! # man identd -a Specify one specific IP address to bind to. Alternatively, a hostname can be specified, in which case the IPv4 or IPv6 address which corresponds to that hostname is used. Usually a hostname is specified when inetd is run inside a jail(8), in which case the hostname corresponds to that of the jail(8) environment. When the hostname specification is used and both IPv4 and IPv6 bindings are desired, one entry with the appropriate protocol type for each binding is required for each service in /etc/inetd.conf. For example, a TCP-based service would need two entries, one using ``tcp4'' for the protocol and the other using ``tcp6''. See the explanation of the /etc/inetd.conf protocol field below. It is my understanding you get one IP/jail and that multiple IPs are a work in progress. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-intro.html A jail is characterized by four elements: : * An IP address -- this will be assigned to the jail and cannot be changed in any way during the jail's life span. The IP address of a jail is usually an alias address for an existing network interface, but this is not strictly necessary. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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carp interface and running manual scripts
Hi, Is it possible to run a script after carp interface becomes MASTER? Ie external script that runs the required services.. -- Best regards, Omer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
syslogd stopped
I found some OLD reports of this happening (back in 2001 or so), but I haven't seen anyone mention it. On August 1st, my /var/log/maillog files started rolling over empty files, nightly, with only the logfile turned over [date] message in them. Turns out, syslogd stopped running. As soon as I restarted it, and grepped for it: # ps -ax | grep syslog 48049 ?? Ss 0:00.02 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s It began running and my /var/log/maillog file has entries once again. I'm a little baffled; does anyone have any idea what might be going on or could maybe point me to a resource I might have missed that discusses it? Thanks Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reminder email notification utility
Is there a utility available which can take a database of dates events and email out a reminder? I know that I could create something using at, but seems to me that I saw a utility already designed for this. I have missed one too many birthdays -- Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jails, IPs and identd
Yeah but I'm using Bjoern Zeeb's multiple IP patch... On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:43 PM, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Redd Vinylene wrote: Hello! I have a jail with multiple IPs. It runs identd, however it only works from the jail's main IP: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 How do I make it work from absolutely all IPs? Perhaps: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 -a insert hundreds of ips here? Thank you all! # man identd -a Specify one specific IP address to bind to. Alternatively, a hostname can be specified, in which case the IPv4 or IPv6 address which corresponds to that hostname is used. Usually a hostname is specified when inetd is run inside a jail(8), in which case the hostname corresponds to that of the jail(8) environment. When the hostname specification is used and both IPv4 and IPv6 bindings are desired, one entry with the appropriate protocol type for each binding is required for each service in /etc/inetd.conf. For example, a TCP-based service would need two entries, one using ``tcp4'' for the protocol and the other using ``tcp6''. See the explanation of the /etc/inetd.conf protocol field below. It is my understanding you get one IP/jail and that multiple IPs are a work in progress. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-intro.html A jail is characterized by four elements: : * An IP address -- this will be assigned to the jail and cannot be changed in any way during the jail's life span. The IP address of a jail is usually an alias address for an existing network interface, but this is not strictly necessary. -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslogd stopped
I hit send too soon, the machine is: FreeBSD www 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:18:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Tim Kellers wrote: I found some OLD reports of this happening (back in 2001 or so), but I haven't seen anyone mention it. On August 1st, my /var/log/maillog files started rolling over empty files, nightly, with only the logfile turned over [date] message in them. Turns out, syslogd stopped running. As soon as I restarted it, and grepped for it: # ps -ax | grep syslog 48049 ?? Ss 0:00.02 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s It began running and my /var/log/maillog file has entries once again. I'm a little baffled; does anyone have any idea what might be going on or could maybe point me to a resource I might have missed that discusses it? Thanks Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reminder email notification utility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Pazarena wrote: | Is there a utility available which can take a database of dates events | and email | out a reminder? | | I know that I could create something using at, but seems to me that I | saw a utility | already designed for this. | | I have missed one too many birthdays Hi Jim, Here are a couple from the ports collection: http://www.freshports.org/search.php?query=birthdaysearch=gonum=10stype=namemethod=matchdeleted=excludedeletedstart=1casesensitivity=caseinsensitive Neither one specifically says it uses email to deliver reminders, but perhaps some quick shell scripting will solve that problem. HTH, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFImHZq0sRouByUApARAi/9AJ9QtVLfPb7qhy0gTY176ovdDwOapgCgveJd zOajK5FqczaRSF3xzLwt7Oc= =kXkH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: High Availability FreeBSD www cluster
Michael Christie wrote: Hi all , I want to cluster some freeBSD servers, The purpose of this is to learn. I would like to run some basic services like www and mail on a test network. I would like to set up the servers so if one server falls over the other will take over the services automatically, load balanceing would be good as well. web links any thing to help me get started would be good. No I do not want to change over to linux. High Availability means that your cluster should work even some system components fail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-availability_cluster For building HA cluster you should have at last two machines, first will run in master mode, second in slave( standby )mode. In every time only one machine works and provide some services (www, db, etc) Very good idea is to use NAS(SAN) - Network Access Storage ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage ) with shared disk. Both nodes of HA cluster will use this shared disk (but only one in certain time). If one node fails, second node (standby node) will become a master of cluster and will start some services, that cluster provided. But NAS systems is not cheap!! Another way is to use software systems such us DRBD, NFS, chironfs, rsync etc. Most of this high-availability software solution works by replicating a disk partition in a master/slave mode. Heartbeat + DRBD is one of most popular redundant solutions. DRBD mirrors a partition between two machines allowing only one of them to mount it at a time. Heartbeat then monitors the machines, and if it detects that one of the machines has died, it takes control by mounting the mirrored disk and starting all the services the other machine is running. Unfortunately DRBD runs only on linux but I recommend you to see how it works for understanding this technology. http://www.rhic.bnl.gov/hepix/talks/041020am/miers.pdf http://www.linux-ha.org http://www.linux-ha.org/DRBD/GettingStarted http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9074 For freebsd to mirror content on bouth nodes you can use rsync as in this howto: http://www.taygeta.com/ha-postgresql.html Another way like as DRBD is to use chironfs + nfs (sysutils/fusefs-chironfs/) http://www.furquim.org/chironfs Also look at CARP (Common Address Redundancy Protocol) man carp http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/carp.html http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/high-availability.html (for databases) ps. sorry for my eng -- Best Wishes, PAIX-UANIC | SK3929-RIPE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reminder email notification utility
Jim Pazarena wrote: Is there a utility available which can take a database of dates events and email out a reminder? I know that I could create something using at, but seems to me that I saw a utility already designed for this. I have missed one too many birthdays calendar and cron ? a cron entry like @weekly/usr/bin/calendar -A 7 | mail -s weekly calendar [EMAIL PROTECTED] and man calendar (its in the base system) very simple text file format Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird
anyone? On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have something really weird going on... all of the sudden my box went away and came back later on i have daily log rotating, yet my last log shows following: Aug 2 17:15:28 j nrpe[75619]: Handling the connection... Aug 4 09:49:52 j named[63163]: zone gmsworld.com/IN: expired look at the timestamp and never mind what the actual message says.. can anyone explain me what the hell happened? -- http://alexus.org/ -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reminder email notification utility
Jim Pazarena wrote: Is there a utility available which can take a database of dates events and email out a reminder? I know that I could create something using at, but seems to me that I saw a utility already designed for this. I have missed one too many birthdays /misc/birthday in the ports collection. I run it from crontab daily to see the upcoming events for the next seven days. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error with python gconf.so (gtk-2.0)
I just got a clean portupgrade -a, so I hope my problem is not a version issue, because I don't have any newer versions to install. I get the following when I try to run meld: Thanks, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/steve]$ meld Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/meld, line 93, in module import meldapp File /usr/local/lib/meld/meldapp.py, line 28, in module import prefs File /usr/local/lib/meld/prefs.py, line 52, in module import gconf ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gconf.so: Undefined symbol g_assertion_message_expr [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/steve]$ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jails, IPs and identd
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah - above my pay grade. On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Redd Vinylene wrote: Yeah but I'm using Bjoern Zeeb's multiple IP patch... On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:43 PM, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Redd Vinylene wrote: Hello! I have a jail with multiple IPs. It runs identd, however it only works from the jail's main IP: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 How do I make it work from absolutely all IPs? Perhaps: auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30 -a insert hundreds of ips here? Thank you all! # man identd -a Specify one specific IP address to bind to. Alternatively, a hostname can be specified, in which case the IPv4 or IPv6 address which corresponds to that hostname is used. Usually a hostname is specified when inetd is run inside a jail(8), in which case the hostname corresponds to that of the jail(8) environment. When the hostname specification is used and both IPv4 and IPv6 bindings are desired, one entry with the appropriate protocol type for each binding is required for each service in /etc/inetd.conf. For example, a TCP-based service would need two entries, one using ``tcp4'' for the protocol and the other using ``tcp6''. See the explanation of the /etc/inetd.conf protocol field below. It is my understanding you get one IP/jail and that multiple IPs are a work in progress. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-intro.html A jail is characterized by four elements: : * An IP address -- this will be assigned to the jail and cannot be changed in any way during the jail's life span. The IP address of a jail is usually an alias address for an existing network interface, but this is not strictly necessary. -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 heheh.. no worries. i think im better off asking this on the freebsd-jails mailinglist anyhow. have a great day! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
Folks, Actually, I have two 'general-computer' type questions, but it might be better to ask them in separate posts. First about FBSD (6.x or 7.x) and newer vs older computers. First, 7.0 seems as stable or more so than its predecessor. It may even be faster and more efficient. How much more green this is isn't a main question. But let's take my 1998 Computer each maxed out with a Gig or close to and having been upgraded to small 2005 drives. Would it make more sense from a environmental vp to buy a newer, faster servers with probably more efficient drives, or just buy new drives and stay at the current 400MHz speed? I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above 0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now, but I would like to know what drink the most juice: disk,RAM, processor, OpSys? Number of hit/hours? I want my upgrades to be as cost-effective as possible, in other words. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above
0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is
better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now,
but I would like to know what drink the most juice: disk,RAM,
processor, OpSys? Number of hit/hours? I want my upgrades to
be as cost-effective as possible, in other words.
There isn't a good generic answer to your question. It all depends on
exactly what hardware you have. A good rule of thumb is 10W for each
disk drive, but some were much higher. Pull the data sheets for your
drives.
A Kill-A-Watt on the power cord is the best way to answer the total
question. My old ancient Dell Optiplex running 5.5 draws about 60 watts
including the APS 350CS UPS. Am not about to unplug it without good
reason:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {1004} uptime
1:30PM up 670 days, 21:08, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice
upgrade for the 4G drive in the above.
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Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:33:20PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above
0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is
better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now,
but I would like to know what drink the most juice: disk,RAM,
processor, OpSys? Number of hit/hours? I want my upgrades to
be as cost-effective as possible, in other words.
There isn't a good generic answer to your question. It all depends on
exactly what hardware you have. A good rule of thumb is 10W for each
disk drive, but some were much higher. Pull the data sheets for your
drives.
A Kill-A-Watt on the power cord is the best way to answer the total
question. My old ancient Dell Optiplex running 5.5 draws about 60 watts
including the APS 350CS UPS. Am not about to unplug it without good
reason:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {1004} uptime
1:30PM up 670 days, 21:08, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice
upgrade for the 4G drive in the above.
the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. but what is your
best guuess about my old 1998 HP's (400MHz) compared to a newer,
generic 1.8GHz processor? IIRC, my AMD 2.8GHz uproc sucks up
around 75watts; the Intel was maybe 35w.
--
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IBM eServer x225 - LSI 1030 SCSI - BTX Halted / infinite loop
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 on my new server, an IBM eServer x225 (8647-5CG) The server/drives runs fine under windows 2003 and ubuntu server but the FreeBSD installation just halts. So far i've tried: CD: disk1 from 6.2, 7.0, CD: bootonly from 7.0 Floppys: 7.0 They all end the same, cds with an infinite loop of numbers, floppys with BTX Halted and a lot of numbers. int=000derr=efl=00010006eip=000219b2 eax=000219acebx=ecx=c080edx=000587d8 esi=0003e007edi=ebp=0008fcbcesp=00099c88 cs=0008 ds=0010 es=0010 fs=0010 gs=0010 ss=0010 cs:eip=0f 32 0d 00 01 00 00 0f-30 0f 20 e0 83 c8 30 0f 22 e0 b8 00 c0 03 00 0f-22 d8 0f 20 c0 0d 00 00 ss:esp=90 95 00 00 00 80 fc 00-00 90 fc 00 07 e0 03 00 00 00 00 00 07 d0 03 00-00 00 00 00 cc 87 05 00 BTX halted The only difference is when i boot from 7.0-STABLE-200804-i386-bootonly.iso, then i see BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive A: is disk0 Then it stops. If i remove both the harddrives i can boot into the freebsd installer, but as there are no drives, there is nowhere to install. Atleast when i started with the floppys it detected drive1 and 2 before BTX halted.. I dont know what to do anymore, there is just no way to get freebsd to install on this thing. Is it the LSI controller, it should still be initiated when there are no drives in it, and the installation starts fine then. Is it the Motherboard, the bios, the cpu, the ram? what? The disks, having just one in doesn't work, switching positions doesn't work? Does anyone have any idea on how i can proceed once i'm in the installation, can i mount the drives and install somehow? The hardware is: 1x Xeon 2.8GHz(512KB), 2x 2048MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (ecc), 2x 74GB 10K rpm U320 HDD, Ultra320 SCSI, 48x CD-ROM, Broadcom NetXtreme 10/100/1000 Integrated Ethernet, ATI Rage XL ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets are available online. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:33:20PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above
0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is
better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now,
but I would like to know what drink the most juice: disk,RAM,
processor, OpSys? Number of hit/hours? I want my upgrades to
be as cost-effective as possible, in other words.
There isn't a good generic answer to your question. It all depends on
exactly what hardware you have. A good rule of thumb is 10W for each
disk drive, but some were much higher. Pull the data sheets for your
drives.
A Kill-A-Watt on the power cord is the best way to answer the total
question. My old ancient Dell Optiplex running 5.5 draws about 60 watts
including the APS 350CS UPS. Am not about to unplug it without good
reason:
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I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice
upgrade for the 4G drive in the above.
the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. but what is your
best guuess about my old 1998 HP's (400MHz) compared to a newer,
generic 1.8GHz processor? IIRC, my AMD 2.8GHz uproc sucks up
around 75watts; the Intel was maybe 35w.
If your serious about power but need newer capacities, I'd look at
something like http://www.wdc.com/en/products/greenpower/index.asp and
maybe an intel atom (or after reading the reviews/benchmarks the via
nano when its available.)
With dual opterons at the moment my load average (except for when
compiling) is 0 - 0.1 but my electricity bill is significant so i'll be
looking into something atom/nano based in the near future, especially
when i can get a motherboard with CPU for less than 60 uk pounds.
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Re: IBM eServer x225 - LSI 1030 SCSI - BTX Halted / infinite loop
At 01:42 PM 8/5/2008, underligast wrote: I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 on my new server, an IBM eServer x225 (8647-5CG) The server/drives runs fine under windows 2003 and ubuntu server but the FreeBSD installation just halts. So far i've tried: CD: disk1 from 6.2, 7.0, CD: bootonly from 7.0 Floppys: 7.0 They all end the same, cds with an infinite loop of numbers, floppys with BTX Halted and a lot of numbers. int=000derr=efl=00010006eip=000219b2 eax=000219acebx=ecx=c080edx=000587d8 esi=0003e007edi=ebp=0008fcbcesp=00099c88 cs=0008 ds=0010 es=0010 fs=0010 gs=0010 ss=0010 cs:eip=0f 32 0d 00 01 00 00 0f-30 0f 20 e0 83 c8 30 0f 22 e0 b8 00 c0 03 00 0f-22 d8 0f 20 c0 0d 00 00 ss:esp=90 95 00 00 00 80 fc 00-00 90 fc 00 07 e0 03 00 00 00 00 00 07 d0 03 00-00 00 00 00 cc 87 05 00 BTX halted The only difference is when i boot from 7.0-STABLE-200804-i386-bootonly.iso, then i see BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive A: is disk0 Then it stops. If i remove both the harddrives i can boot into the freebsd installer, but as there are no drives, there is nowhere to install. Atleast when i started with the floppys it detected drive1 and 2 before BTX halted.. I dont know what to do anymore, there is just no way to get freebsd to install on this thing. Is it the LSI controller, it should still be initiated when there are no drives in it, and the installation starts fine then. Is it the Motherboard, the bios, the cpu, the ram? what? The disks, having just one in doesn't work, switching positions doesn't work? Does anyone have any idea on how i can proceed once i'm in the installation, can i mount the drives and install somehow? The hardware is: 1x Xeon 2.8GHz(512KB), 2x 2048MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (ecc), 2x 74GB 10K rpm U320 HDD, Ultra320 SCSI, 48x CD-ROM, Broadcom NetXtreme 10/100/1000 Integrated Ethernet, ATI Rage XL Obviously it is the SCSI card or drives. Have you tried changing the BIOS settings on the SCSI? You might want to try changing the SCSI BUS speed. You may also want to try turning off hyperthreading. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up Wireless net Card
Run ifconfig; if your card's driver is built into the GENERIC kernel (it likely is), then iconfig should list it. Alternatively, you can run pciconf -lv. If you can't find your card in either of these, please copy the output of those two to the list. (Hint: a goodway to save the output of a command to a file is: command | tee file). The below would be the wireless card, being belkin, but i dont believe that it is listed as part of the drivers with a generic kernel which im running. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5:0: class=0x02 card=0x700f1799 chip=0x700f1799 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Belkin Research and Development Labs' class = network subclass = ethernet re0: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING inet 192.168.1.65 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether edited media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP full-duplex status: active fwe0: flags=108802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether edited ch 1 dma -1 plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets are available online. sure they're online,but i don't remember whether they were Seagate or something else. and putting then in was a nightmare.[[ for some reason, these hp kayaks have baffles and partitions and more things you gotta unscrew.]] it took a REAL (hardware) EE close to an hour. --this brings me to another question butnotnow! -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up Wireless net Card
I believe that card uses the Realtek 8185L chipset. You may be able to get ndis driver to work with it. Download the winxp driver from http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PNid=24PFid=1Level=6Conn=5DownTypeID=3GetDown=falseDownloads=true I don't know if there is native support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
and stay at the current 400MHz speed? older computers usually take less power, but usually not always - check it. and are less expensive - always. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
exactly what hardware you have. A good rule of thumb is 10W for each
disk drive, but some were much higher. Pull the data sheets for your
drives.
A Kill-A-Watt on the power cord is the best way to answer the total
question. My old ancient Dell Optiplex running 5.5 draws about 60 watts
including the APS 350CS UPS. Am not about to unplug it without good
reason:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {1004} uptime
1:30PM up 670 days, 21:08, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice
upgrade for the 4G drive in the above.
or add it, and use atacontrol detach/attach
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Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:45:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets are available online. sure they're online,but i don't remember whether they were Seagate or something else. and putting then in was a nightmare. The command dmesg|grep '^da' should tell you the make and model of the disks. If you have SCSI, use '^ad' instead of '^da'. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpV9WfYcHDI4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost.
Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the
datasheets are available online.
sure they're online,but i don't remember whether they were Seagate or
something else. and putting then in was a nightmare.[[ for some
reason, these hp kayaks have baffles and partitions and more things you
gotta unscrew.]] it took a REAL (hardware) EE close to an hour.
you can often (always for me so far) find your drive model info from
smartctl -a /dev/{devnode}
(from the port sysutils/smartmontools)
example output
---
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family
Device Model: Maxtor 6E040L0
Serial Number:E1PAM22E
Firmware Version: NAR61EA0
User Capacity:41,110,142,976 bytes
-snip--
Vince
--this brings me to another question butnotnow!
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Re: Controlling read access
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Catalin Miclaus wrote: Hello John, If you are providing only FTP services for those users, perhaps you want to go for an FTP server that handles virtual users. I'm using pure-ftpd and it works great. Google will help you find some nice howto's for same. Hi Catalin... I installed pure--ftpd with TLS/SSL support and am having some problems with it... 1. VERY slow to list files the first time. I thought this was a DNS problem, so tried the -H flag, but no joy. Still slow. 2. When I try to connect with TLS/SSL, I get a connection, but the file list takes so long that the connection times out. Any ideas? I Googled for this problem, but the only hint I came up with was the -H flag... Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solved] Re: Periodic scripts running twice
CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: RW wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:21:36 -0500 CyberLeo Kitsana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! For a while, I've noticed odd behavior with periodic scripts installed by certain ports (portaudit) as well as ones I've penned myself (corescan), in that they appear to be run twice in succession every time. Base system scripts, and some add-on scripts (freshclam) are run only once, even in the same periodic batch. Is there some end state the script is expected to be in to signal periodic of a successful run? (Incl: Sample email, weekly.txt) Thanks! Is this a long-standing problem? It sounds like you didn't fully complete the UPDATING instruction for the 20070519 xorg update, and /usr/local/etc/periodic is being access both directly and via the /usr/X11R6 symlink. Try adding local_periodic=/usr/local/etc/periodic to /etc/periodic.conf The box in question doesn't even have X, as it's a headless server in a colo someplace. It's been this way since I installed the periodic scripts. I have no idea what that symlink is even doing there, unless 'make distdirs distribution' creates it now. Either way, I've added the local_periodic directive to /etc/periodic.conf. We'll see what happens when periodic runs tonight. Thanks! Looks like that took care of the problem. Thanks for the insight! Although, that does cause me to wonder why only some of the local periodic scripts would run twice, while others would run only once. Either way, problem solved. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:08:52PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:45:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets are available online. sure they're online,but i don't remember whether they were Seagate or something else. and putting then in was a nightmare. The command dmesg|grep '^da' should tell you the make and model of the disks. If you have SCSI, use '^ad' instead of '^da'. Well, well. i found my high-end SCSI adaptor. couldn't remember where it got stashed, :-) Anyway, yup, found the drive. i's a WD400BB. I just hope this puppy lasts another several months. Oh, but then i need help to swap it out. This brings me to my next question which is:: It it better to buy a proprietary make like Dell or HP or stick to something more generic? Let's assume that i could handle the hardware end myself. what would you suggest? gary PS; I'Ll post this separately, but just wondering Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
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I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice
upgrade for the 4G drive in the above.
or add it, and use atacontrol detach/attach
You think I could replace the system drive that way? :-)
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Re: IBM eServer x225 - LSI 1030 SCSI - BTX Halted / infinite loop
underligast wrote: I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 on my new server, an IBM eServer x225 (8647-5CG) The server/drives runs fine under windows 2003 and ubuntu server but the FreeBSD installation just halts. So far i've tried: CD: disk1 from 6.2, 7.0, CD: bootonly from 7.0 Floppys: 7.0 They all end the same, cds with an infinite loop of numbers, floppys with BTX Halted and a lot of numbers. Just to be sure, try bootonly 8-CURRENT. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Off Topic] Clients still not connecting to the FreeBSD mail server
Hi, Thanks again everyone for the pointers with Outlook and my fellow church parishoners. I'm hoping for some more pointers. Using tcpdump I'm fairly certain that the initial SYN packets from the clients are never reaching the server. I'll need to test one more time to be sure (I wasn't 100% positive of the public IP address on the Internet side of the cable modem installed). Never the less, from home here I've verified what I should see if the initial SYN packets are received at the server and now know what to look for. (Who knows, maybe the wireless router knows it's in a church and has decided no SYN's allowed. Ok, that was bad.) What I'm hoping to glean from the experts here is about wireless routers. I've never used them before, but one of the pastors was reasonably certain that the problems commenced for the one person who never had problems, the secretary, when she was switched from wired to wireless operations. Sunday I was briefly able to see the administration pages of the wireless access point, however nothing seemed to jump off the page at me that, Yeah, this is what's blocking them. However, it definitely seems that something is preventing traffic over port 25 because we can all browse the Internet just fine. I've verified the same timeout behavior with Outlook Express and Thunderbird. Using Thunderbird, I was able to check different settings too. The settings should be to use authentication on the smtp server using SSL. Someone, please educate me, does this mean that the authentication takes place over port 465 and the regular smtp still takes place over 25, or do both take place over 25? I ask because KMail (my setup at home that works) says to use SSL, not TLS which uses port 465. At the server, I use sockstat and see that on IPv4 sendmail has an open port on 465. Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: encrypted email using web based application
how about squirrelmail and horde ? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:14:50PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Andrew Gould wrote: If I start with Subject line with the word secure using my work's email system, the email is sent to a secure, web based application where the recipients can view the message securely. The recipients receive a message that a secure email message is waiting for them there. They have to create an account based upon their email address to view the message. They do not have to recreate the accounts for future messages. This system is easy to use; and we don't have to worry about whether the recipients have PGP or GPG. Is there an open source application that does this? How is this secure? Ok, I can see that if the message is served over https, then the network packages themselves cannot be sniffed easily. But as long as the recipient did not give you the key to use, then this is not secure. Why should the recipient trust the server? Whether there is an open source solution, I don't know however. It depends on your definition of secure -- which can vary from one circumstance to another. If the emails in question are company property, there's no reason to consider access to the emails by company officials a breach of security. On the other hand, if sensitive company information is sniffed in plain text on the network, that could be disastrous. From the sound of it, the circumstances the OP described refer to such a situation -- one where strict person-to-person privacy isn't a necessary goal of relevant security concerns. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Scott McNealy: Microsoft is now talking about the digital nervous system. I guess I would be nervous if my system was built on their technology too. -- Mohamad Faizul Zulkifli http://piju.fakap.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 05:07:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: This brings me to my next question which is:: It it better to buy a proprietary make like Dell or HP or stick to something more generic? Let's assume that i could handle the hardware end myself. what would you suggest? I'd stick to a system from a good local builder. It gives you much more control over what components go into the box. You want to make sure that the chipset on the motherboard and the graphics card are supported by FreeBSD. The components of e.g. Dell systems tend to vary depending on what they have lying around. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpjQ4MCOfnFY.pgp Description: PGP signature
